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AndersonMD 22.03.2021 21:53

Fighting parking ticket
 
There are a number of spots (12ish) on the street behind my house which I park in that have free parking for 6 hours between 8 am and 7 pm. Normally this isn't an issue because I take the car to work. During the work from home mandate I have been working from home, so I go and take the dog for a short walk around 2 to move the car and change the timer. I usually drive around the block looking for a different spot, if I don't find one I usually just park back in the spot I left which for the last 6 months hasn't been an issue.

Today I got a parking ticket claiming I changed the timer without vacating the spot, which is not true since I vacated it for a couple minutes before returning to it.

Can I fight this? Where am I supposed to park when the government forces me to work from home? So frustrated.

bowlie 22.03.2021 21:56

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You can try, but I believe there is a minimum time, an hour or an hour and a hhalf it’s supposed to be gone.

But go in person to the police station and explain ...

k_and_e 22.03.2021 22:00

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They're not windmills. They're giants!

swisspea 22.03.2021 22:51

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In our town you can buy a local parking pass for the year, then you don't need to worry at all...

Axa 22.03.2021 23:19

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Parking rules are different in every canton and even depend on the commune/gemeinde. So, look for your local rules.

Where to park? Outdoor parking places start at 50 CHF a month. 100 CHF a month for covered ones. In crowded urban areas, 300 or more per month.

Landers 22.03.2021 23:21

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Originally Posted by bowlie (Post 3288692)
You can try, but I believe there is a minimum time, an hour or an hour and a hhalf it’s supposed to be gone.

In Basel the rule is the car "has to be put into traffic" before it can park in the same street. Something that's unlikely to be able to be done in a couple of minutes. I believe it's the same rule for Zurich. No idea where the OP is.

NickGB 23.03.2021 06:16

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Common sense would dictate that what you have been doing is 'cheating' the system. You got away with it for a good long while, but your luck ran out. I don't think that you have any case to fight this.

AndersonMD 23.03.2021 07:59

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Originally Posted by NickGB (Post 3288730)
Common sense would dictate that what you have been doing is 'cheating' the system. You got away with it for a good long while, but your luck ran out. I don't think that you have any case to fight this.

While I understand this sentiment, these are not normal times. Normally I would take the car to work in the morning and park it again in the evening.

Now, we are in a global pandemic, the government tells me I must work from home, the government tells me not to go to restaurants, or theatres, or anything. Basically, I am mandated to stay home as much as possible, by government decree. Yet local law enforcement has silly rules like this still enforced which forces me to leave the house or get a ticket. It is counter productive to the federal and cantonal effort to fight Covid.

roegner 23.03.2021 08:09

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Originally Posted by AndersonMD (Post 3288741)
While I understand this sentiment, these are not normal times. Normally I would take the car to work in the morning and park it again in the evening.

Now, we are in a global pandemic, the government tells me I must work from home, the government tells me not to go to restaurants, or theatres, or anything. Basically, I am mandated to stay home as much as possible, by government decree. Yet local law enforcement has silly rules like this still enforced which forces me to leave the house or get a ticket. It is counter productive to the federal and cantonal effort to fight Covid.

Why would Covid change parking rules just because you work from home? Enough ways to rent a parking space are available.

krlock3 23.03.2021 08:19

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Originally Posted by AndersonMD (Post 3288741)
Now, we are in a global pandemic, the government tells me I must work from home, the government tells me not to go to restaurants, or theatres, or anything. Basically, I am mandated to stay home as much as possible, by government decree. Yet local law enforcement has silly rules like this still enforced which forces me to leave the house or get a ticket. It is counter productive to the federal and cantonal effort to fight Covid.

I would recommend you to go directly to the police station and use this argument verbatim. Don't change a word. Should be fine :msncool:

Plau Deri 23.03.2021 09:32

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Probably cheaper to pay the ticket than to rent a parking space for six months, so you were surely lucky. If I were you, I would pay and start looking for my own spot, where there is nothing to worry. Not worth fighting the ticket.

AndersonMD 23.03.2021 09:43

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Originally Posted by roegner (Post 3288744)
Why would Covid change parking rules just because you work from home? Enough ways to rent a parking space are available.

Covid is changing tonnes of things, there is a national lockdown. Seems consistent to pause parking rules if you don't want people leaving their house, you are already disrupting normal operation of the country in many ways.

fatmanfilms 23.03.2021 09:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AndersonMD (Post 3288777)
Covid is changing tonnes of things, there is a national lockdown. Seems consistent to pause parking rules if you don't want people leaving their house, you are already disrupting normal operation of the country in many ways.

Pay for a parking spot or on street parking like everybody else.

AndersonMD 23.03.2021 09:52

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Originally Posted by Plau Deri (Post 3288771)
Probably cheaper to pay the ticket than to rent a parking space for six months, so you were surely lucky. If I were you, I would pay and start looking for my own spot, where there is nothing to worry. Not worth fighting the ticket.

The problem is there is nowhere to rent a parking space close to where I live, we have looked into it in the past. All the parking near us is this free street parking for 6 hours. Paid parking would be a 20 min walk away or a bus ride, which is a bit counter productive to owning a car.

Again, in normal times this is never a problem. It's only a problem during the Covid lockdown, this is hard to plan for since they make rules on a month by month basis.

Axa 23.03.2021 09:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AndersonMD (Post 3288777)
Covid is changing tonnes of things, there is a national lockdown. Seems consistent to pause parking rules if you don't want people leaving their house, you are already disrupting normal operation of the country in many ways.

Why call it a house if it doesn't have at least 1 parking place?

AndersonMD 23.03.2021 09:57

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3288780)
Pay for a parking spot or on street parking like everybody else.

I don't think anyone near me does this, all the spots are these 6 hour spots. I see the same cars always parked there, and recently they are making a killing giving out parking tickets I think.

I have always went for a small drive (10-15 min) after 6 hours to take the dog out and move the car, but sometimes you end up back in the same spot because it's the only one available. This time I got a ticket for "changing time without leaving spot", but in fact I had left the spot.

NotAllThere 23.03.2021 10:08

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Does your community not offer unlimited resident parking permits?

Guest 23.03.2021 10:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AndersonMD (Post 3288787)
This time I got a ticket for "changing time without leaving spot", but in fact I had left the spot.

And you can prove this how, exactly? Traffic wardens routinely note down (well, photograph in a special app these days) numbers and positions of parked cars, and if one is still there the next time they pass then they will issue a ticket. Even if you were gone for an hour between their visits you're still not going to be able to fight this unless you had some proof.

I used to do something similar back in the day (in Basel) before I was able to use the company parking. I'd park in a Blue spot then go and change the timer every couple of hours, always moving the car to a different position if at all possible to minimise this obvious hole in the loophole, IYSWIM. Got ticketed once over a period of many months, having neglected to reset the timer disk, so relatively was still in pocket compared with using the paying parking that was available. Yes, naughty me, played the system, but within a known parameter set.

(Blue spaces were then available only to residents, or for the 1.5 hours that setting a time display would grant you. Later they changed them all so that you could pay to park there, via the internet.)

You should probably just thank them for being so inattentive as to only ticket you once in this period rather than complaining about the fact that they did.

AndersonMD 23.03.2021 11:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NotAllThere (Post 3288796)
Does your community not offer unlimited resident parking permits?

Yes this I have looked into also since they are only 30 CHF a month, the problem being that I am somehow right on a zone boundary, so my neighbour is eligible for a pass to park on our street but I am not. The zone I am in all the parking spaces are quite far and down the hill from where I live.

Yes, I understand this is first world problems, but I don't want to pay for a pass to park far from my house when in normal times I can park right behind it in a 6 hour parking spot.

Really, I am just looking for a solution to park by my house without getting a ticket while the national lockdown is in place, I thought until yesterday that taking the car for a short drive every 6 hours was enough but clearly this is not the case.

JackieH 23.03.2021 11:10

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There you are, you have found the easy solution- and it does not exist. You have to find a way of parking legally, even if it does mean taking a walk down the hill first. It is, what it is. Or move.


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