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Motorbike Licence - Single Seater Harley

Hi All

I have a L permit for the A category (exam needs to be taken before 11.2021). In CH I'm told that part of the driving test is the Examiner riding 2-up for a part of the test. Since I own a single seater, my only option is to rent a bike for the day I guess.

However, a riding friend said that there are Cantons (e.g. Bern) that allow the test on a single seater as the Examiner rides separately.

Can anyone verify whether this is true or not?

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Old 31.03.2021, 12:36
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Re: Motorbike Licence - Single Seater Harley

Best to ask at the STVA you're going to take the test, or a driving school local to it.

Not only every STVA can have some different approaches, with COVID it is possible that there are no pillions and everyone rides on their own connected with radios.
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Re: Motorbike Licence - Single Seater Harley

1. get a bike, not a tractor with one seat (just joking)

2. it seems like you are living in Zurich, here is a explanation of the exam:
Praktische fahrprüfung
in the middle of the page the motorbike test is explained:

Sie brauchen ein betriebssicheres Motorrad .... und zwei Sitzplätzen.

It seems like you need a motorbike with 2 seats.

3. but, it also looks like you can do the the test in another canton:
Gesuch zum Ablegen der Führerprüfungin einem anderen Kanton

4. sadly it seems that in canton Bern you also need a motorbike with two seats for the exam:

Kategorie A
Motorrad ohne Seitenwagen,...
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Zwei Sitzplätze
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a riding friend said that there are Cantons (e.g. Bern) that allow the test on a single seater as the Examiner rides separately.

Can anyone verify whether this is true or not?
Yes, Ticino is one such canton.

My daughter has the L, and asked, as I was afraid that I'd have to be her test passenger and I HATE being a passenger (if you have an L you can only take fully licensed passengers), but it's confirmed that they don't do that here.

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Be aware that an L sign on a Harley doesn't exactly look cool.
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Re: Motorbike Licence - Single Seater Harley

Excellent replies all - thank you most kindly! I've emailed the local STVA (to commit them to writing) and I'll post their reply here for everyone's info.

What the kind lady on the tel. did tell me is that for a while last year they stopped doing the 2-up Examinations due to Covid but this was reinstated before the end of 2020. She herself wasn't sure of the status quo at present however..

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Be aware that an L sign on a Harley doesn't exactly look cool.
LOL - don't I know it (I'm not ever waived at most of the time)
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Yes, Ticino is one such canton.

My daughter has the L, and asked, as I was afraid that I'd have to be her test passenger and I HATE being a passenger (if you have an L you can only take fully licensed passengers), but it's confirmed that they don't do that here.

Tom
Thanks Tom, much appreciated! I hate being a passenger and I'm not too partial to taking passengers truth be told..
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LOL - don't I know it (I'm not ever waived at most of the time)
The waving has nothing to do with the L. When I was on a harley some other harley riders gave a salute, but the majority of other bikes didn't. Now I no longer get saluted at by the harleys. I've noticed an increasing amount of big sccoters giving a wave.
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LOL - don't I know it (I'm not ever waived at most of the time)
No wonder if you stick your L on the front?
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No wonder if you stick your L on the front?
Touché

I have a (left) side mount number plate so that L can be seen from a mile away (from the front)
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I have a (left) side mount number plate so that L can be seen from a mile away (from the front)
oh, poor you, a Harley and a "L plate" Double coursed. Maybe we should do a campaign and support you with some scrap metal and old oil?
btw. what will you do? A test ride in Ticino?
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Re: Motorbike Licence - Single Seater Harley

Honestly the maneuvers will probably be the biggest pain for the exam with a Harley...
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Honestly the maneuvers will probably be the biggest pain for the exam with a Harley...
Ticino also has a larger distance between cones.

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Re: Motorbike Licence - Single Seater Harley

Berna-Uno checking in:


I recently passed the exam in Bern(city, as there are multiple places you can do the test) and no passenger riding was involved, the examiner follows you in a car and radios you the commands.


FYI, a somewhat useful(in German) summary https://www.toeff-forum.ch/lexicon/e...-pr%C3%BCfung/


also youtube "schweiz motorradprüfung" has loads of useful videos, like maneuvering and some exam routes.
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Berna-Uno checking in:


I recently passed the exam in Bern(city, as there are multiple places you can do the test) and no passenger riding was involved, the examiner follows you in a car and radios you the commands.

This is what my Instructor said - but "NEJC" above posted a link where indeed it does state that they ride piggy. I'll call the STVA in Bern when I'm ready to make the appointment (I am waiting for official approval from Zurich STVA to have my test conducted in another Canton..)


FYI, a somewhat useful(in German) summary https://www.toeff-forum.ch/lexicon/e...-pr%C3%BCfung/

Excellent - many thanks!


also youtube "schweiz motorradprüfung" has loads of useful videos, like maneuvering and some exam routes.
Amazing thanks!
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Ticino also has a larger distance between cones.

Tom
Looks like a long weekend trip to Ticino is in my near future.. :-)
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Honestly the maneuvers will probably be the biggest pain for the exam with a Harley...
And the side-mounted plate makes it even worse: All the cones that I knocked over during the basic course were due to the monster side plate mount (this is my story and I'm sticking to it )
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oh, poor you, a Harley and a "L plate" Double coursed. Maybe we should do a campaign and support you with some scrap metal and old oil?
btw. what will you do? A test ride in Ticino?
I'll prob end up doing it in Ticino if with my bike, or, I'll rent a bike from the driving Instructor (he uses auto 600cc bikes that maneuver easier than a BMX).
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