Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Transportation/driving  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 15.04.2021, 11:49
GenevaSculler's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Geneva
Posts: 1,260
Groaned at 7 Times in 5 Posts
Thanked 1,033 Times in 534 Posts
GenevaSculler has a reputation beyond reputeGenevaSculler has a reputation beyond reputeGenevaSculler has a reputation beyond reputeGenevaSculler has a reputation beyond reputeGenevaSculler has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Electric car driving in Switzerland.

Interesting - I didn't know about this one which looks like a great city car.

I wouldn't assume that an official range of 270km is enough for a 240km drive - plan a modest coffee break and leg stretch at one of the service stations on the autoroute around half way and you should be fine though. Generally with electric cars you can charge from say 25% to 75% pretty fast, but getting from 75% to 100% takes longer, so for the shortest overall journey time it's best to stop a little more frequently but for shorter periods.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank GenevaSculler for this useful post:
  #22  
Old 15.04.2021, 11:57
AbFab's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Zürich
Posts: 8,105
Groaned at 344 Times in 234 Posts
Thanked 11,618 Times in 4,006 Posts
AbFab has a reputation beyond reputeAbFab has a reputation beyond reputeAbFab has a reputation beyond reputeAbFab has a reputation beyond reputeAbFab has a reputation beyond reputeAbFab has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Electric car driving in Switzerland.

Quote:
View Post
That is a very good idea. The stated range is 270kms. As my first journey will be from Lucerne to Nyon (243 kms) I’ll leave the experimentation to a later journey. I may not even listen to the radio.

Edited to add:
If I avoid the autoroutes it is 218 kms with a time of 4hrs 14 minutes. If I don’t it is 243kms but only 2hrs 21 minutes.

What would you do?
Not worry.
Not buy a car in Lucerne when I live in Nyon.
Hills take more juice than any heating/entertainment system. Of course you get some back downhill - so use regen.
The dealer in Lucerne will advise on en-route charging...
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank AbFab for this useful post:
  #23  
Old 15.04.2021, 13:46
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Pully
Posts: 96
Groaned at 21 Times in 11 Posts
Thanked 40 Times in 26 Posts
AndersonMD is considered knowledgeableAndersonMD is considered knowledgeableAndersonMD is considered knowledgeable
Re: Electric car driving in Switzerland.

I use EV Pass, https://www.evpass.ch/ . They have a pretty extensive network and various packages including pay as you go, unlimited day, unlimited night, unlimited anytime.
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank AndersonMD for this useful post:
  #24  
Old 15.04.2021, 14:41
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: la cote
Posts: 3,398
Groaned at 20 Times in 13 Posts
Thanked 2,964 Times in 1,580 Posts
runningdeer has a reputation beyond reputerunningdeer has a reputation beyond reputerunningdeer has a reputation beyond reputerunningdeer has a reputation beyond reputerunningdeer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Electric car driving in Switzerland.

Quote:
View Post
I use EV Pass, https://www.evpass.ch/ . They have a pretty extensive network and various packages including pay as you go, unlimited day, unlimited night, unlimited anytime.
Ditto, I use EV pass app on phone. It tells you what electric plugs are available and costs or not, and speed of charging.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank runningdeer for this useful post:
  #25  
Old 20.04.2021, 00:12
jeroen's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Zurich to Ticino
Posts: 254
Groaned at 2 Times in 1 Post
Thanked 188 Times in 101 Posts
jeroen is considered knowledgeablejeroen is considered knowledgeablejeroen is considered knowledgeable
Re: Electric car driving in Switzerland.

The current trick is to find a LIDL, most have a 50 kW charging station that is free for use for shoppers.

Of course there are people who will only buy a coffee and then charge their car fully there, during times when people actually shop there, while themselves only walking around. Heck, even seen people bring their own coffee and then complain when actual shoppers are charging their cars.... oh well

As mentioned, ABetterRoutePlanner (ABRP) is the place to check for charging sites. Long-distance you typically will have Ionity or Go-Fast, thus either make sure you have a phone with QR scanner and decent browser (anything recent works) and/or get a swisscharge.ch or equivalent card.

As for running out of juice, yes, range anxiety is a thing, but with decent-ish planning not a problem (though calculate in that a charger might be b0rked if not in a situation like the ionity ones), and in an extreme case call TCS who have a card with a battery/generator for charging stranded EVs, but that will cost you quite some time and they effectively just charge you to get you to a working real charger.

Definitely arrange a charger at home. Juice Booster is always a great device to have in the trunk, or, like us, using that on a CEE-16 Red at home where
an overnight charge is typically good enough to fill it back up from 50%.

Oh, and depending on the type of car, it is useful to have Wifi range or a 3G/4G card in the car for software updates.


We have been happily silently driving around ours for ~2 years now, and as it is a bit exotic (know only 3 of that model in the area), still get a lot of looks when folks see it (especially when they figure there is no exhausts and it is full electric )
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank jeroen for this useful post:
  #26  
Old 20.04.2021, 08:59
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Basel
Posts: 674
Groaned at 8 Times in 7 Posts
Thanked 522 Times in 276 Posts
gipfelisturmer has an excellent reputationgipfelisturmer has an excellent reputationgipfelisturmer has an excellent reputationgipfelisturmer has an excellent reputation
Re: Electric car driving in Switzerland.

Quote:
View Post

I wouldn't assume that an official range of 270km is enough for a 240km drive
Try closer to 200km, probably.

What's the battery pack on that thingy?
Edit: found it: "36.8kWh, of which 32.3kWh is usable".
Efficiency approx 14-16kWh/100km will give you 200ish km range.

Last edited by gipfelisturmer; 20.04.2021 at 09:50.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank gipfelisturmer for this useful post:
  #27  
Old 20.04.2021, 09:24
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Zurich
Posts: 3,572
Groaned at 70 Times in 49 Posts
Thanked 3,723 Times in 2,028 Posts
rainer_d has a reputation beyond reputerainer_d has a reputation beyond reputerainer_d has a reputation beyond reputerainer_d has a reputation beyond reputerainer_d has a reputation beyond reputerainer_d has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Electric car driving in Switzerland.

Fast charging is an option with the e-up (et.al.), apparently.

Does the car have it?


Apparently. there's an eco-mode that limits power. At least the e-UP has it, so I assume this has it too.

I would assume about 120-150km range at Autobahn-speeds. The battery is tiny (as is the car).

It's a city-car that does stretches of Autobahn nicely.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 20.04.2021, 13:58
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Steinach SG
Posts: 8,539
Groaned at 417 Times in 313 Posts
Thanked 11,172 Times in 5,868 Posts
Urs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Electric car driving in Switzerland.

I keep wondering why Tesla et al don't make battery range adjustable, with something like yours as the default and top-ups (also temporarily) available. 2-300km range should do for most everyday uses, temporarily top up for that 1500km holiday drive. Something like that. That would reduce the price and make the vehicle more energy-efficient. Or am I missing something?
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 20.04.2021, 14:52
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: la cote
Posts: 3,398
Groaned at 20 Times in 13 Posts
Thanked 2,964 Times in 1,580 Posts
runningdeer has a reputation beyond reputerunningdeer has a reputation beyond reputerunningdeer has a reputation beyond reputerunningdeer has a reputation beyond reputerunningdeer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Electric car driving in Switzerland.

Quote:
View Post
Try closer to 200km, probably.

What's the battery pack on that thingy?
Edit: found it: "36.8kWh, of which 32.3kWh is usable".
Efficiency approx 14-16kWh/100km will give you 200ish km range.
Or even less....

My electric car will only give the indicated km if you drive at about 80 kmh or less. If driving 120 kmh on autoroute, you will consume much more battery. Add temperature, lower temp. will also use up more battery, and depending on how you use the climatisation in the car, even more is used up. I would not drive from Luzerne without a backup plan for charging.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank runningdeer for this useful post:
  #30  
Old 20.04.2021, 17:20
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Nyon
Posts: 4,394
Groaned at 215 Times in 157 Posts
Thanked 6,046 Times in 2,811 Posts
bowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Electric car driving in Switzerland.

My plan is to stop at the A1 rest area Rose de la Broye. Around half way. If we’ve got 50% plus, will have a quick coffee and continue. If not they have multiple fast chargers so will top off for an hour or so.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Which electric bike is good in Switzerland ? BasP72 Transportation/driving 89 17.05.2019 12:07
How much does it cost to use electric heaters and electric water boiler? ausoleil Housing in general 5 22.04.2018 22:55
Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland mlx.milano Transportation/driving 234 14.12.2015 16:12
Electric/Gas/Induction - availabiliy in Switzerland Gastro Gnome Food and drink 20 18.03.2011 23:57
Electric smoking machine [electric cigarette replacements] jbrady General off-topic 14 03.08.2009 10:33


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 10:01.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0