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Re: Had 3 x same "Verbot fur Motorwagen" fines 3x violation in 1 hour time

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apparently, we got into the road 3 times in an hour time (like at 16:02, 16:35 and then 16:49),
The cops at the station must have been rolling on the floor. They should pay you!!
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Old 04.05.2021, 11:36
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What I mostly miss are the warning signs for curves. Especially when driving down a road for the first time. In the States it is posted how fast one should take a curve. In Europe, if one is lucky, there is a bunch of big white arrows but no recommended speed making a first drive a guessing game.
The recommended speeds are a joke.

Europe has more than one (or two) languages. Thatís why they donít write things out.

Speaking of which. Switzerland if you are going to write something on those autoroute overhead signs, please do it in three languages (plus English)
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The recommended speeds are a joke.

Europe has more than one (or two) languages. Thatís why they donít write things out.

Speaking of which. Switzerland if you are going to write something on those autoroute overhead signs, please do it in three languages (plus English)
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What language? A number is a number.
With this sign a stranger knows with a decent car that the curve can be taken at 45 MPH without losing control.
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Old 04.05.2021, 12:23
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What I mostly miss are the warning signs for curves. Especially when driving down a road for the first time. In the States it is posted how fast one should take a curve. In Europe, if one is lucky, there is a bunch of big white arrows but no recommended speed making a first drive a guessing game.
Roads are much narrower here. Yesterday I had to stop and reverse a bit because a guy pulling a trailer was using half my lane. There was no space because to my right there was a wall ( vertical cut on the hillside). A km before I passed by a sign that said end of 50 km/h, 80 km/h theoretically. But, with agricultural machinery and white panel vans, the 80 km/h is just theoretical.

I guess the idea of drive at a safe speed where you can always brake or keep your car under control fits better the narrower and congested roads of Switzerland. Worrying about the adherence of tires to asphalt is the last of worries.
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That's ridiculous! Kills all spontaneity! Who wants to live like this.


When I look at the form, it's still ridiculous! LOL. What do they need all this info for?! Numberplate ZH-000000 was okay to pass on May 3rd should be plenty enough!

edit: Streets no fully paid and maintained by private people should not be closed to the public! And such private streets should not be protected by the tax-payer (police plus all the gadgets they install to do it).
in certain locations cross border commuters jam up all roads that are not closed off, sometimes there is no other way.
They also drive at the limit plus 5 regardless of danger as they have a long way home and it's always the same.
Can really damage a village.
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What I mostly miss are the warning signs for curves. Especially when driving down a road for the first time. In the States it is posted how fast one should take a curve. In Europe, if one is lucky, there is a bunch of big white arrows but no recommended speed making a first drive a guessing game.
Which road conditions should that be based upon?

Dry summer, snowy winter or ice? Or a wet spring with semi-decayed leaves from the previous year making the asphalt slippery?

Whichever you chose you'll be wrong because there's always the possibility of a downpour or a hailstorm, or rain after a sunny period that renders the dust on the street into the equivalent of soft soap until it's washed off.
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What language? A number is a number.
With this sign a stranger knows with a decent car that the curve can be taken at 45 MPH without losing control.
Sounds like 35 is unit of some sort and next to it is in Russian - MRI - so it must be pointing you to emergency MRI unit it seems - I wonder where the Roentgen is ... found a sing ... but no direction.
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Old 04.05.2021, 21:40
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Which road conditions should that be based upon?
In the US, dry and clean, actually.

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Old 05.05.2021, 08:58
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I wonder if we have any right asking to pay only 1 or 2 of these total same 3 penalties arguing that btw second and third entries, it was only 14 minutes difference. Did anyone experience this kind of situation?
Sorry, I don't think there is such a right.

Judging from similar topics with similar issues, your only chance is to send a letter, by post with confirmation, in German, ASAP, to the Police Station that issued your fine, stating that your lesson was definitely learned, you will pay more attention and that you are very sorry for your offence, will not do it again for sure, etc, and that you kindly ask them to help you by paying just 1 or 2 of the 3 fines.

Good Luck!
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What I mostly miss are the warning signs for curves. Especially when driving down a road for the first time. In the States it is posted how fast one should take a curve. In Europe, if one is lucky, there is a bunch of big white arrows but no recommended speed making a first drive a guessing game.
Over here we learn to read the corners for ourselves.

Anyway the safe speed depends very much on what you're driving/riding and the road conditions.
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Re: Had 3 x same "Verbot fur Motorwagen" fines 3x violation in 1 hour time

The wife got a speeding ticket on the same road she knew well twice in the same day, she was going shopping and then coming home.

We laughed about it, paid the fines and always drive more carefully on that short long stretch of dual carriage way with fields on either side. It is simply a speed trap trap.

I got a speed fine myself driving in an area I didn't know too, paid the fine.

It will interesting to see how this works when cars start to drive around for us, your defence I wasn't driving it was tesla, she did it.
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Which road conditions should that be based upon?

Dry summer, snowy winter or ice? Or a wet spring with semi-decayed leaves from the previous year making the asphalt slippery?

Whichever you chose you'll be wrong because there's always the possibility of a downpour or a hailstorm, or rain after a sunny period that renders the dust on the street into the equivalent of soft soap until it's washed off.
It's the limit posted for bad weather conditions when the road is wet but not icy. With ice one cannot recommend any speed.
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Old 05.05.2021, 10:52
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It's the limit posted for bad weather conditions when the road is wet but not icy. With ice one cannot recommend any speed.
It's not bad weather when > 50% of days are like that, welcome to CH
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What language? A number is a number.
With this sign a stranger knows with a decent car that the curve can be taken at 45 MPH without losing control.
It's the most absurd thing one may deploy as a road sign. Road sign should help the driver, not to detach their eye-hand-foot system from their brain.

You are driving a car, 2 tons of metals and plastic and rubber, you must be aware all the time about surrounding and your driving skills, you must know at which speed you can drive and at which speed you can take a curve you are seeing.
You do not see the curve? take it slower.
You have no guess? take it slower.
You have no brain and you need sign to have a guess about the speed you can drive a curve? take a cab.

Speed limits are an upper bound to the speed you can (legally) drive.
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What I mostly miss are the warning signs for curves.
Unless one of those signs is missing and you're merrily flying down the road, "knowing" that the serious curves will be marked when suddenly: serious curve, unmarked!

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Unless one of those signs is missing and you're merrily flying down the road, "knowing" that the serious curves will be marked when suddenly: serious curve, unmarked!

In the States! Land of lawyers on commission and public juries! Never!
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