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18.05.2021, 21:24
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| | Safe to let buyer copy the grey card?
Some potential buyers of my car want to make a copy of the 'grey card' and take it with them before they would let me know their decision.
Why do they need it?
Is it safe to let them copy it?
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18.05.2021, 21:26
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| | Re: Safe to let buyer copy the grey card?
VIN details can help with insurance quotes.
As long as you do not give the card and the plates and the car to them, I think you will be OK.....
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18.05.2021, 21:57
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| | Re: Safe to let buyer copy the grey card?
Yes, no problem.
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18.05.2021, 22:19
| | Re: Safe to let buyer copy the grey card? | Quote: | |  | | | Some potential buyers of my car want to make a copy of the 'grey card' and take it with them before they would let me know their decision.
Why do they need it?
Is it safe to let them copy it? | | | | | until it's radioactive ..
They likely want VIN number to check car milage and other stuff
worst case they'll copy license plates and VIN on chassis & engine of stolen car to be "your" car and sell it in CH - so I'd trade carefully and watch for the accent ;-)
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19.05.2021, 15:07
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| | Re: Safe to let buyer copy the grey card? | Quote: | |  | | | until it's radioactive ..
They likely want VIN number to check car milage and other stuff
worst case they'll copy license plates and VIN on chassis & engine of stolen car to be "your" car and sell it in CH - so I'd trade carefully and watch for the accent ;-) | | | | |
They all have accents. Which one should I watch for?
Besides, isn't VIN just written on many cars on top of the dashboard right under the windshield, in plain view of everybody? On my car it isn't, but I've seen it elsewhere quite a few times.
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19.05.2021, 15:21
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| | Re: Safe to let buyer copy the grey card? | Quote: | |  | | | They all have accents. Which one should I watch for?
Besides, isn't VIN just written on many cars on top of the dashboard right under the windshield, in plain view of everybody? On my car it isn't, but I've seen it elsewhere quite a few times. | | | | | on some it is, on some it isn't. On some it's partial.
But it's written on the grey card as well as the fact that the car is locked to a leasing provider (or not). Which would be interesting for a potential buyer.
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19.05.2021, 16:44
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| | Re: Safe to let buyer copy the grey card? | Quote: | |  | | | until it's radioactive ..
They likely want VIN number to check car milage and other stuff
worst case they'll copy license plates and VIN on chassis & engine of stolen car to be "your" car and sell it in CH - so I'd trade carefully and watch for the accent ;-) | | | | | Congratulations. Non-specific, broad brush racial stereotyping, prejudice, discrimination and xenophobia all rolled into one post.
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19.05.2021, 18:13
| | Re: Safe to let buyer copy the grey card?
on serious note :
- I do not see why anyone would copy any of the legal documents .
- on this very forum (I believe) we heard of someone reciving speeding ticket and police provided picture shown right (his!) license plate, same type just different colour of the vehicle.
- When playing on "accent" - i do not believe anyone asking question in english on english forum speaks fluent german to extend that there be no accent - so it implicitly would mean everyone from EF forum (yes, there be few with no-accent-german here as exception) .
Would you let anyone take a photo copy of your ID , car ID etc - why not post it on some social media than? perhaps one of the reasons is there is potential for abuse ... and I just shown you (of course extreme) case how that may be used.
Like it or not ..it' the way things go. Not everyone has nice jobs and some come to CH to exploit 'swiss trust' ..some swiss to that too.
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19.05.2021, 18:36
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| | Re: Safe to let buyer copy the grey card? | Quote: | |  | | | - I do not see why anyone would copy any of the legal document s | | | | | FTFY.
To get an insurance quote, and to control if it is leased.
Tom
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19.05.2021, 21:20
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| | Re: Safe to let buyer copy the grey card? | Quote: | |  | | | on serious note :
- I do not see why anyone would copy any of the legal documents .
- on this very forum (I believe) we heard of someone reciving speeding ticket and police provided picture shown right (his!) license plate, same type just different colour of the vehicle.
- When playing on "accent" - i do not believe anyone asking question in english on english forum speaks fluent german to extend that there be no accent - so it implicitly would mean everyone from EF forum (yes, there be few with no-accent-german here as exception) .
Would you let anyone take a photo copy of your ID , car ID etc - why not post it on some social media than? perhaps one of the reasons is there is potential for abuse ... and I just shown you (of course extreme) case how that may be used.
Like it or not ..it' the way things go. Not everyone has nice jobs and some come to CH to exploit 'swiss trust' ..some swiss to that too. | | | | | Just because you don't see it doesn't alter the fact that this is indeed the case, as evidenced by any number of people who have gone through the process.
To add my example - I bought a car from a dealer; the deposit and sale contract included a copy of the grey card for two reasons:
1. It clearly identifies the car I'm paying a deposit for, and also shows the seller actually has ownership
2. It enabled me to get insurance in advance of picking it up
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19.05.2021, 23:43
| | Re: Safe to let buyer copy the grey card? | Quote: | |  | | | Just because you don't see it doesn't alter the fact that this is indeed the case, as evidenced by any number of people who have gone through the process.
To add my example - I bought a car from a dealer; the deposit and sale contract included a copy of the grey card for two reasons:
1. It clearly identifies the car I'm paying a deposit for, and also shows the seller actually has ownership
2. It enabled me to get insurance in advance of picking it up | | | | | Normally dealers would not have the grey-card as car isn't registered - until it's dealer re-selling someones else car on his/her behalf ?
yes, still if I would have been a seller I'd provide you with VIN/engine and whenever else is necessary for insurance - needless to say it can be done via phone/email in very moment you buy the car - but you wouldn't see photocopy of the papers.
may show it to you when we signing the paper - There is no need for you to have copy in advance.
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19.05.2021, 23:46
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| | Re: Safe to let buyer copy the grey card? | Quote: | |  | | | Normally dealers would not have the grey-card as car isn't registered - until it's dealer re-selling someones else car on his/her behalf ?
yes, still if I would have been a seller I'd provide you with VIN/engine and whenever else is necessary for insurance - needless to say it can be done via phone/email in very moment you buy the car . | | | | | You are really clueless about how things work here.
A dealer will ALWAYS have the expired grey card!
I would never trust one who didn't!
Tom
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19.05.2021, 23:47
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| | Re: Safe to let buyer copy the grey card? | Quote: | |  | | | Normally dealers would not have the grey-card as car isn't registered - until it's dealer re-selling someones else car on his/her behalf ?
yes, still if I would have been a seller I'd provide you with VIN/engine and whenever else is necessary for insurance - needless to say it can be done via phone/email in very moment you buy the car - but you wouldn't see photocopy of the papers.
may show it to you when we signing the paper - There is no need for you to have copy in advance. | | | | | Dumbest shit I've ever read here.
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