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Old 02.06.2021, 09:21
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Reckless and dangerous behaviour of the police. You could have scratched your supercharged vehicle here. If I were you, I would report this and press charges against these cops.

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Re: Police raid on A1

This thread serves as a good warning and a lesson to new drivers in Switzerland, personally I had no idea there would be unmarked cars catching drivers with this sort of approach here..

Would have thought this 'folgen' sign means something like 'jackass' to some driver that somehow got in his way, which your average BMW driver would likely consider as top comedy.

From where I am, undercover police will usually activate lights or put on some blue/white signs + give voice commands to get the attention of the driver.
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Old 02.06.2021, 10:18
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Reckless and dangerous behaviour of the police. You could have scratched your supercharged vehicle here. If I were you, I would report this and press charges against these cops.

Do report back!
While you are at it, ask for a duellum iudicialium with that other driver, say Tyrion advised that.
They might also be liable for your extra fuel speeding away. Supercharging nitro ain't cheap!
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Old 02.06.2021, 10:42
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Re: Police raid on A1

@OP, forgot to ask which canton.

My morbid curiosity sent me to the Aargau polizei press release site. At least Aargau police has not made a call for witness about a driver escaping at high speed from the police on the A1. https://www.ag.ch/de/weiteres/aktuel...hsubmit=suchen
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Reckless and dangerous behaviour of the police. You could have scratched your supercharged vehicle here. If I were you, I would report this and press charges against these cops.

Do report back!
Can’t really comment on the OP’s story (motorway left lane, overtaken on the right) but have personally experienced harassment by an unmarked police car while on a bike. Empty country road, I noticed a BMW on a layby before entering a village. Mid-village, within speed limits, I had them seriously tail-gating me, i.e. they obviously drove a lot faster than allowed to catch up.
Unfortunately, my tiny brain allocated this behaviour to typical over enthusiastic, underpaid young drivers in leased cars and I decided to gain a bit of safe distance. Admittedly, this involved ignoring silly ideas of 80 kmh on a road I “knew by heart”, but in each following village I painstakingly reverted to 50 and even put my foot down at stop signs!
Naturally, this always allowed them to catch up again and we replayed the scenario once out of village limits. My stupidity was compounded however, when I ignored the really ridiculous intermediate 60 kmh limit of the next boondock stretch which was sadly documented on videotape. Exiting the next village, while behind me, the car started flashing all sorts of lights including mirrored “Polizei”. Slightly pissed off, I did accuse them of reckless driving and wilful provocation. They calmly informed me that they were just acting on their training and doing their job. Long story short: let assholes overtake you – they might be on an official mission.
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Old 02.06.2021, 11:14
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which was sadly documented on videotape. Exiting the next village, while behind me, the car started flashing all sorts of lights including mirrored “Polizei”. Slightly pissed off, I did accuse them of reckless driving and wilful provocation. They calmly informed me that they were just acting on their training and doing their job. Long story short: let assholes overtake you – they might be on an official mission.

I have a friend who was similarly provoked and got screwed quite badly. The fact that the police is pushing you to see if you're going to behave OK or not, is like a riot officer nudging you to see if you're going to start a fight, and it's a dick move.

In any case, back in 2012, I was stopped by an unmarked 5 series in a similar but much more calm fashion. I was new to the country, my car had old (pre-EU size and markings) Greek plates, and I was in the Uetliberg tunnel heading to AG on the right lane doing the speed limit. I looked at my phone for a moment to check google maps, and veered slightly within my lane. The 5er came to my left, then slowed down again and went behind me, then overtook me and popped the FOLGEN sign. I don't really remember what it said, but it did say Polizei, and there was a sign and nothing else.

They stopped me and went through a full check of the car, and gave me an alcohol and drug test probably because of the foreign plates and the veering. They found my tires to need replacement, and I told them I had new set on order, so I was requested to present myself to any ZH police station with a paper they gave me, within a few working days to show my new tires. The guy told me with a very serious look after getting my personal info on a small notebook "If you don't show up, I'll show up at your place and give you the ticket myself" I indeed had new tires coming, so no issue after all, but goes to show that:

1. the popo is doing the rounds in unmarked cars quite often
2. if they find a reason to stop you, they will


I was new to the country and also got a bit suspicious, especially since this was late evening hours and on empty roads, but I though to myself that I'll stop and stay in my car. If the guys come out with uniforms it's really the police, if not I'll just run or something. Why would anyone assume that a "followme" sign in a car is "kids playing around" is beyond me. Who puts signs in their car to screw with other road users?

OP I'd expect a visit and troubles ahead to be honest...
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Old 02.06.2021, 11:20
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Long story short: let assholes overtake you – they might be on an official mission.
Police or not, if anyone is tailgating me even in the slightest, I'll take the next pullover and let them go by. I can't stand to have someone behind me, especially when I'm either 1) on my motorcycle and just toodling around or 2) in my car and probably lost




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This thread serves as a good warning and a lesson to new drivers in Switzerland, personally I had no idea there would be unmarked cars catching drivers with this sort of approach here..

Would have thought this 'folgen' sign means something like 'jackass' to some driver that somehow got in his way, which your average BMW driver would likely consider as top comedy.

From where I am, undercover police will usually activate lights or put on some blue/white signs + give voice commands to get the attention of the driver.
Oh yes, they are. They caught my OH driving too fast but were sooooo disappointed he was actually running to work!
On a more serious note, they expected to catch someone who could have been fined for other things too.
It happened only one time, a good lesson though. (if you ask me)
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Police or not, if anyone is tailgating me even in the slightest, I'll take the next pullover and let them go by. I can't stand to have someone behind me, especially when I'm either 1) on my motorcycle and just toodling around or 2) in my car and probably lost
Life is tough! Recently had a sporty (perhaps electric) bicycle rider chasing me at a roundabout in a 30 kmh zone and screaming, “have you gone to sleep yet, asshole?”
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Old 02.06.2021, 12:13
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Life is tough! Recently had a sporty (perhaps electric) bicycle rider chasing me at a roundabout in a 30 kmh zone and screaming, “have you gone to sleep yet, asshole?”
Oh cyclists. There are two kinds: the ones that ride the bike the whole year and are people that care about their live and ride safely, and there's the people that ride when the weather is nice. Usually, the nice weather riders are less aware of their surroundings, do not respect traffic rules and overall less fit to ride bike safely....so be extracareful until the days become shorter once again.
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Life is tough! Recently had a sporty (perhaps electric) bicycle rider chasing me at a roundabout in a 30 kmh zone and screaming, “have you gone to sleep yet, asshole?”

Be double careful if it's that guy...


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Re: Police raid on A1

Thread reminds me of a story my father told me -- many years ago he realized the car he was overtaking illegally (across a solid line in the US) was Police, so he waved them over to ask for directions to the hospital....and it worked! Quick thinking
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Re: Police raid on A1

Assuming the police car was real, I am surprised the OP had enough time to post. I'm guessing by now he is in U-Haft.

I have seen traffic police here use a variety of covert vehicles, but they are mainly BMW. The last I saw was an X3.

Initiating a police pursuit in Switzerland will cost the OP dearly, both financially, criminally and possibly custodially. This is Switzerland, not South Africa, there is rarely a need to flee from anyone...unless you have something to hide.
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I've had the police put this sign on, it's usually in the back of an unmarked car - in my case, an Omega. The things are loaded with tech such as cameras and calibrated speed measuring systems.

If you have Swiss plates on your supercharged car and this really happened then I am sure they will be visiting you. I assume you must have hit 250+kph to shake them and their friends off.

As you seem to have lasted a week without such a visit, it's probably just some like-minded individual wanting to hang with you.
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I've had the police put this sign on, it's usually in the back of an unmarked car - in my case, an Omega.
Likewise 25 years ago it was an Omega.

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I think you should get ready in case the police is coming to your home, delete all you unauthorized downloads and your browser history
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Re: Police raid on A1

After watching this documentary:
The silence of Quandts *
I find very appropriate that Swiss police buys mostly BMW. It is a sort of repayment of expropriated money (at least in their second iteration, from the Germany of the 40s to Switzerland).

What to say, for all I despise the defense industry, I hope the next step is buying some noise-supressing drones from IAI, the Israelian Defense company, to be used about the young people having too much money to spend on their crappy sporty car.

To the OP: if you are lucky, you will just have to give some money to lawyers and to the Swiss state. It's a pity, with the same amount you could have bought 1/30 of Angela Merkel.

* The Quandts family, who saved BMW from bankruptcy in the 50s, invested a large chunk of their wealth into making BMW the colossus of today. Those money stinks ... unless either corona or "pecunia non olet"** syndrom affects you.

** it actually means the contrary, not that money don't smell in themselves, but that money has no smell sense so pee and other organic fluids can be taxed.

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After watching this documentary:
The silence of Quandts *
I find very appropriate that Swiss police buys mostly BMW. It is a sort of repayment of expropriated money (at least in their second iteration, from the Germany of the 40s to Switzerland).

What to say, for all I despise the defense industry, I hope the next step is buying some noise-supressing drones from IAI, the Israelian Defense company, to be used about the young people having too much money to spend on their crappy sporty car.

To the OP: if you are lucky, you will just have to give some money to lawyers and to the Swiss state. It's a pity, with the same amount you could have bought 1/30 of Angela Merkel.

* The Quandts family, who saved BMW from bankruptcy in the 50s, invested a large chunk of their wealth into making BMW the colossus of today. Those money stinks ... unless either corona or "pecunia non olet"** syndrom affects you.

** it actually means the contrary, not that money don't smell in themselves, but that money has no smell sense so pee and other organic fluids can be taxed.
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Police or not, if anyone is tailgating me even in the slightest, I'll take the next pullover and let them go by. I can't stand to have someone behind me, especially when I'm either 1) on my motorcycle and just toodling around or 2) in my car and probably lost
This, exactly. If someone's edging to overtake, fine, be my guest, just do it. If they're going to drive too fast and potentially dangerously, then preferably somewhere else, as far away as possible from just behind my vehicle.
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This, exactly. If someone's edging to overtake, fine, be my guest, just do it. If they're going to drive too fast and potentially dangerously, then preferably somewhere else, as far away as possible from just behind my vehicle.
If only people camping on the left lane of highways thought like this.....one can dream.
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