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I am just trying to derail the thread from its natural conclusion, unless OP comes with some update.

What is the natural conclusion? how bad are people at driving on the left lane.
Ok, so how bad are people giving money to the Quandt family?
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Old 02.06.2021, 16:00
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I am just trying to derail the thread from its natural conclusion, unless OP comes with some update.

What is the natural conclusion? how bad are people at driving on the left lane.
Ok, so how bad are people giving money to the Quandt family?
here we go again

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Old 02.06.2021, 16:08
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I am just trying to derail the thread from its natural conclusion, unless OP comes with some update.

What is the natural conclusion? how bad are people at driving on the left lane.
Ok, so how bad are people giving money to the Quandt family?
What about hungry children in Africa?
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Old 02.06.2021, 18:21
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What about hungry children in Africa?
pay the oil barrels (or the cobalt) with the swiss politicians from the SVP, instead of dollars, and the problem then solves by itself

https://borgenproject.org/what-to-kn...n-switzerland/
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So what happened next Frauke?
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Old 02.06.2021, 19:59
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Can’t really comment on the OP’s story (motorway left lane, overtaken on the right) but have personally experienced harassment by an unmarked police car while on a bike. Empty country road, I noticed a BMW on a layby before entering a village. Mid-village, within speed limits, I had them seriously tail-gating me, i.e. they obviously drove a lot faster than allowed to catch up.
Unfortunately, my tiny brain allocated this behaviour to typical over enthusiastic, underpaid young drivers in leased cars and I decided to gain a bit of safe distance. Admittedly, this involved ignoring silly ideas of 80 kmh on a road I “knew by heart”, but in each following village I painstakingly reverted to 50 and even put my foot down at stop signs!
Naturally, this always allowed them to catch up again and we replayed the scenario once out of village limits. My stupidity was compounded however, when I ignored the really ridiculous intermediate 60 kmh limit of the next boondock stretch which was sadly documented on videotape. Exiting the next village, while behind me, the car started flashing all sorts of lights including mirrored “Polizei”. Slightly pissed off, I did accuse them of reckless driving and wilful provocation. They calmly informed me that they were just acting on their training and doing their job. Long story short: let assholes overtake you – they might be on an official mission.

I do not think Police can ignore and break a law .
There is no "wilful provocation" but you could call out dangerous driving when you thought you were afraid of attempt robbery.

I had similar situations many years ago - called 117 - informed unidentified car following me - was advised "not to stop" and continue my way to next open police station in case ... wasn't long - they went their own way - after like 10min driving behind.
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Re: Police raid on A1

True, thanks! I am a new driver. I would have totally ignored it thinking Folgen is the driver's pet name or something...I mean anything... the last thing I would imagine is this is police asking me to follow them!!!
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This thread serves as a go[CENTER[/CENTER]od warning and a lesson to new drivers in Switzerland, personally I had no idea there would be unmarked cars catching drivers with this sort of approach here..

Would have thought this 'folgen' sign means something like 'jackass' to some driver that somehow got in his way, which your average BMW driver would likely consider as top comedy.

From where I am, undercover police will usually activate lights or put on some blue/white signs + give voice commands to get the attention of the driver.
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Old 02.06.2021, 21:01
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True, thanks! I am a new driver. I would have totally ignored it thinking Folgen is the driver's pet name or something...I mean anything... the last thing I would imagine is this is police asking me to follow them!!!
Uhm, they all have that flashing in the back of the car? A pet‘s name?
Just remember, it also normally says Polizei = police.
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Old 02.06.2021, 21:06
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Uhm, they all have that flashing in the back of the car? A pet‘s name?
Just remember, it also normally says Polizei = police.
In the French part it would say Police!
Probably the confusion when people call Switzerland 'Swiss' its 'Suisse' en Français. ('in French' for the pedants who say everything should be written in English on EF)
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Old 02.06.2021, 21:22
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Uhm, they all have that flashing in the back of the car? A pet‘s name?
Just remember, it also normally says Polizei = police.
Not around here, here it would be "Plod".

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Old 02.06.2021, 21:23
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So what happened next Frauke?
She woke up.

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Re: Police raid on A1

Pet name... as in nick name or something. Essentially anything... but I wouldn't have expected to see a BMW with folgen flashing and assumed its a police car and they are asking me to follow them. But ofcourse if it says Polizei thats a different thing. Never mind, now I know.

I just hope I don't have to use this bit of knowledge! ��

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Just remember, it also normally says Polizei = police.


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Re: Police raid on A1

The OP is probably a troll. But the discussion is interesting. Quite a few people appear to have had an experience with being provoked by police, quite often in unmarked cars (often BMWs).

So here is my story:

+/-10 years ago, I had a car follow me at close distance, so close that I did my usual routine of turning on my windshield washers - spraying them. They kept following me for a few minutes until they decided to pull me over, for, wait for it: not signalling upon leaving a roundabout, at 11 at night, with no other cars in the roundabout. When stopped, I did complain about their aggressive driving but to no avail, I got the fine for not signalling - and they even mentioned me spraying them with my windshield wipers - to which I replied: well guess why I did that? The answer was the standard: "we were driving according to the law and our training, blah blah". They also tried to charge me for too fast driving out of the roundabout, claiming they had to break the speed limit to catch up with me. To this I said "fast acceleration is not an offence", which is what I did. If you had evidence I was driving too fast, then prove it. Then they checked everything, like vest, tyre thread, etc. but could not find anything more.

Long story short, there appear to be quire a few aggressive cops around provoking.
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Old 03.06.2021, 10:43
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I have never been provoked by police in Switzerland, and neither do I know someone who has.

As for civil patrol cars, apart from the quite common 5 series, I see them regularly drive around with Volvo V70 around here.
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Some 25 years ago I was driving from Lugano to Zurich and after Wassen are a series of 6 or 7 tunnels with a speed limit of 80. I was doing about 100 kph (my car was GB plated at the time) when suddenly I heard a siren and saw blue lights flashing as a police car overtook me with a sign at the back flashing "Folgen" and an arrow pointing to the right. Inexplicably he kept accelerating then lost control on the bend before a tunnel and overturned the car, blocking the left hand lane with the now upside down car.

Everyone was breaking and as they climbed out some cars were stopping to help - and others drove on as the right lane was clear. I have to admit along with the other cars I crept past and got out of there. I was living in Locarno at the time and knew the local police quite well, so I asked them if they knew what happened. They knew of the accident and that both police were ok, but that was it. I never heard anything again about it.

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is this for real or is it international troll's day?

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Some 25 years ago I was driving from Lugano to Zurich and after Wassen are a series of 6 or 7 tunnels with a speed limit of 80. I was doing about 100 kph (my car was GB plated at the time) when suddenly I heard a siren and saw blue lights flashing as a police car overtook me with a sign at the back flashing "Folgen" and an arrow pointing to the right. Inexplicably he kept accelerating then lost control on the bend before a tunnel and overturned the car, blocking the left hand lane with the now upside down car.

Everyone was breaking and as they climbed out some cars were stopping to help - and others drove on as the right lane was clear. I have to admit along with the other cars I crept past and got out of there. I was living in Locarno at the time and knew the local police quite well, so I asked them if they knew what happened. They knew of the accident and that both police were ok, but that was it. I never heard anything again about it.

PS. Hope they don't read EF and come looking for me
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The first step with dealing with almost any kind of corruption is to record it. Accumulate evidence. Look at it in the cold light of day to make sure you have a genuine case. Dashcams are cheap, get two! And maybe a bumper sticker "Smile for the camera!"
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Old 03.06.2021, 11:26
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The first step with dealing with almost any kind of corruption is to record it. Accumulate evidence. Look at it in the cold light of day to make sure you have a genuine case. Dashcams are cheap, get two! And maybe a bumper sticker "Smile for the camera!"
IF OP effectively floored the pedal to escape the bad people, we'll see the video on 20min.ch , no need for dashcams

PS: quickly visited the ZH Kapo twitter and found this......what are the white things protruding from the trunk/boot?


https://twitter.com/KapoZuerich/stat...68097157894145

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IF OP effectively floored the pedal to escape the bad people, we'll see the video on 20min.ch , no need for dashcams

PS: quickly visited the ZH Kapo twitter and found this......what are the white things protruding from the trunk/boot?


https://twitter.com/KapoZuerich/stat...68097157894145
already then a BMW
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already then a BMW
The funny thing is that they may keep using the ZH364296 plates for an unmarked car these days.
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