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Registering non-road legal vehicle in Swiss

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I have a SORNed vehicle with V5 and number plate that I imported into Swiss.

I would like to register it in Swiss, but it's not road legal and never be.

What are my options ? Customs gave me form 13.20 A

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If it's not road legal, you can neither register it nor insure it.

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As you live in Swiss, you might be drive it on the runway.
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As you live in Swiss, you might be drive it on the runway.
I will never drive it on public road. I just want to register it so I can take it outside of Swiss without Carnet hassle.

The vehicle in question is a racing motorbike. Can I register it as a competitors vehicle ?
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I will never drive it on public road. I just want to register it so I can take it outside of Swiss without Carnet hassle.

The vehicle in question is a racing motorbike. Can I register it as a competitors vehicle ?
No.

Registration is ONLY for street legal vehicles.

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No.

Registration is ONLY for street legal vehicles.

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So what do I do now ? cancel form 13.20 A and just keep them registered in the UK on V5 and SORNed ?
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Re: Registering non-road legal vehicle in Swiss

Just don't register it.

Most of mine aren't registered at the moment.

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Re: Registering non-road legal vehicle in Swiss

I don't believe you need to register it anywhere but I suppose there might be import taxes to pay. The car is already on a register of sorts when you got the 13.20.
For the UK you're *supposed* to tell them when it's "permanently exported". Some people will tell you that's automatic without you knowing after a year but it's not true.
Seems that you don't have to do anything other than not drive it on a public road.
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Just don't register it.

Most of mine aren't registered at the moment.

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I guess that brings the question, if I want to take them out to Italy, how can I do it without a Carnet ? Stick UK number plate on it ?
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I guess that brings the question, if I want to take them out to Italy, how can I do it without a Carnet ? Stick UK number plate on it ?
Get a ATA carnet, problem solved.

Same as everyone else!

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I will never drive it on public road. I just want to register it so I can take it outside of Swiss without Carnet hassle.

The vehicle in question is a racing motorbike. Can I register it as a competitors vehicle ?
Might be a start if you learned the name of the country
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Hi

I have a SORNed vehicle with V5 and number plate that I imported into Swiss.

I would like to register it in Swiss, but it's not road legal and never be.

What are my options ? Customs gave me form 13.20 A
I am not sure an airline would register a bike, but you can try calling them.
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I will never drive it on public road. I just want to register it so I can take it outside of Swiss without Carnet hassle.

The vehicle in question is a racing motorbike. Can I register it as a competitors vehicle ?
Why register a race bike? I don't know many race bikes with number plates, not to mind lights/indicators/significant modification that would make it illegal for the road anyhow.
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Why register a race bike? I don't know many race bikes with number plates, not to mind lights/indicators/significant modification that would make it illegal for the road anyhow.
The only reason is to be able to move it between borders without a carnet.
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Why register a race bike?
Indeed.

Registered race bikes have tighter noise restrictions than pure race bikes.

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The only reason is to be able to move it between borders without a carnet.
And the problem of a carnet is what, exactly? Insurance and registration certainly cost far more!

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Get a ATA carnet, problem solved.

Same as everyone else!

Tom
Have you ever done carnets here ? I look at conditions and they require 35% of cost as a refundable bond. Are there any alternatives to just buy an insurance instead of giving a bond ?
I know Birmingham chamber of commerce allows it, basically either refundable deposit or an insurance.
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Indeed.

Registered race bikes have tighter noise restrictions than pure race bikes.

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Interesting
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Creating an ATA is pretty simple. You can do it all on line (at least in Vaud, I assume the same for other Cantons) and the bond money comes back pretty fast when you cancel the ATA.
One added benefit right now is that the bond does not attract a negative interest rate so it is a better deal to store money there than in some banks
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Might be a start if you learned the name of the country
Which is what? If you mean the English name, which isn't even an official name, well you yourself don't use English names for some places in Switzerland.

"Swiss" phonetically is at least an official name for the country.

Just free your mind and get over it.
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