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Old 18.08.2021, 07:48
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Yes it is. On both cars. I own or have owned most cars.
Trabant?
2CV?
Morgan?
Lamborghini?
Jensen?
Bentley?
Hyundia?
Dacia?
Nissan qashqai?
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Old 18.08.2021, 09:44
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Finally, BMW M are GT cars. The smoothness in driving is a feature of GT cars. Race cars are a bit different
Actually the definition of GT cars seems to have blurred a bit (See a recent Top Gear episode)

My understanding was super clear, until pretty recently: A large (ish) 2+2, front engined, 12 cylinder. Things have obviously moved on, but I probably wouldn't consider an M2/3/4 a grand tourer, but rather sports cars? (Is there a category for fast versions of standard cars?)

For me a GT would be a Continental GT (The clue's in the name, I guess!), DB11, McLaren GT, GT4 Lusso, but I guess terminology is adapting a bit...

I also guess that 'Supercar' has changed with the advent of hypercar.
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Old 18.08.2021, 10:08
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Nice car, but there is no denying the gearing is not suited to anything but emissions regulations.
Noise regulations seem to be as guilty if not more.

My main gripe with the GT4/Spyder is that I want to play with the shifter. That's the whole point of the manual, rev-matching, using the clutch, taking the shifter into the rhythm. 1st/2nd are useable, and the car has enough torque, but with such a lovely shifter I'd prefer if I could play among 2/3/4 and occasionally rev it out.

Even without taking legality into consideration, in many public roads it's not fun or safe to do that with the gearing under these cars. That's the magic of close gearing. I go from shift to shift every 20kph and I get to interact with the car without getting myself in trouble.
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Old 18.08.2021, 10:40
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Noise regulations seem to be as guilty if not more.
Actually it's more mundane that that! They used an existing gearbox and while they wanted to have shorter gearing, technically they couldn't, as they ran out of space on the shafts.
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Actually it's more mundane that that! They used an existing gearbox and while they wanted to have shorter gearing, technically they couldn't, as they ran out of space on the shafts.
The gearbox is an Audi unit from the 80s beleive it or not. No money for new manual gearbox development with the current automotive trends.
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I'm looking for another car... but not sure what I want. (bit of background, I have too many cars, and keep getting more)

Currently have something that goes offroad reasonably well, so don't need another one of those (G wagon). Also I have a fuel efficient car to get to work, so don't need one of those (Duster). A small convertible (307cc) takes care of the sunny days with the roof down. A wheelchair vehicle (modified fiat doblo) takes care of those day trips where I bring dad around. (I have a few more, but will skip... oh, and not all in CH)

That said... I feel like I'm missing something that has the "grin factor". I regret scrapping the golf gti all those years ago, and kinda miss the probe GT that I gave away when I moved to CH...

So I started looking, and have come up with some very different cars that fit my budget (around 60k):
* Ford Mustang
* Tesla model 3 performance pack
* C43 AMG (second hand)
* Z4 30i (doesn't meet the <5s requirement, but the 40i is out of budget)


After a lot of looking, I think that the cars share these features:
* 0-100 in sub-5s
* >250kmph top speed
* 4 seats (or at least somewhere that the (very big) dog can sit in the bag)
* can be driven in the rain (eliminates an ariel atom)
* can be bought in CH without the hassle of importing, and serviced in CH without too much hassle (though I don't mind getting my hands dirty... I rebuild the engine on one of my rally cars years ago)

I would prefer new, but *may* consider anything sub 10-20k km...

I'm going to get a few test drives... but first was wondering... what am I missing from my shortlist?

(appendix: pros/cons)
* Ford Mustang
+ Nice exhaust and probably the last chance to own a real, naturally aspirated V8
- It's an American car... handling and interior I presume will be lacking

* Tesla model 3 performance pack
+ Autopilot + free charging at work.
- Tesla customer service sucks from what I've seen. Also offers only 30min test drives, while I've always gotten weekend test drives.

* C43 AMG (second hand)
+ It's a merc... my first car was a C-class, as was my first rally car... so some serious nostalgia value
- It's a merc... which seems to consistently score poorly on reliability ratings... Also, I don't have a requirement to swap an engine in <15mins (assuming this is still possible... on the W202 C43 this was a big selling point for me)

* Z4 30i (doesn't meet the <5s requirement, but the 40i is out of budget)
+ BMW build quality, can be convertible
- Slow, especially if convertible. Also a bit redundant as I have a Z3 in another country...
M2C or try the Tesla.
I would prefer M2C over Z4 30i. If you can find a used one of course.
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Old 20.08.2021, 06:18
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The gearbox is an Audi unit from the 80s beleive it or not.

I can! Lamborghini used their V12 engine from 1963 to 2011!!
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