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28.01.2022, 14:10
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I'm looking for an e-bike, possibly a hybrid city/mountain bike. I have a non-e normal Trek bike and I am super happy with it but moved to a more slope-y area and need the e-help
The Trek prices are astronomical for e-bikes. The e-bikes I like start from 4k+ it is way too much: https://www.trekbikes.com/ch/de_CH/b...=%3Arelevance#
My question is, can you recommend no-brands makers that you're happy with, for example, Oschner sport has some interesting ones with interesting prices but not sure how durable they are ... I tend to trust the ones having a Bosch engine in them.
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28.01.2022, 14:32
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The (rather significant) problem with buying a non-branded e-bike is that if anything goes wrong with the electronics it's nigh impossible to get it serviced, and you're generally faced with having to fork out for a new bike. My husband works as a professional bike mechanic and the shops where he's worked are only able to service the brands they sell. People routinely show up with some cheap e-bike they bought due to the low price, and are shocked to hear that the shop cannot run any computer diagnostics on the random made-in-China electrical components.
I would avoid anything non-branded and stick with a mainstream supplier, such as Bosch (which you already mentioned). I'd also avoid buying from a place like Ochsner Sport, as bikes there tend to be assembled by minimally trained staff and not a trained bike mechanic. Their bikes are cheap for a reason...
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28.01.2022, 14:35
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| | Re: ebike recommendations?
Not very knowledgeable on ebikes, but for good value I would look at the German manufacturers that do direct retailing without dealer networks: www.canyon.com www.rosebikes.de https://www.cube.eu/cube-bikes/
Quality is good, prices okish, but expect delivery times to be an issue nowadays. Rose have actually opened a store in Meilen last year.
Similar concept in Switzerland is Price, but I find their bikes atrocious.
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28.01.2022, 15:10
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I guess an e-bike with the Chinese Bafang powertrain could be DYI serviceable as this is a large manufacturer and hopefully spares can be bought on Aliexpress if not locally.
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28.01.2022, 15:13
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Besides, when looking at prices of some branded eBikes in the CHF 3k price range, it might be a few hundreds cheaper to buy one in Germany (shipping and duty/VAT included) than to buy in CH.
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28.01.2022, 16:02
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| | Re: ebike recommendations?
Ochsner sells Scott and Cube e-bikes. Not bad.
But, if I were looking one, I'd check the used market first for 2 reasons: it's winter, and buyer's remorse.
I know at least 2 people who have crashed and had significant injuries after buying an e-bike: one injured knee and the other a broken tooth. Covid19 came, the idea of getting an e-bike and quit riding public transport became popular. People without the skills and reflexes to ride a bike safely got something that is closer to a motorcycle than a non-powered bike, and what had to happen...happened.
So, take a look at velomartk.ch, I put a minimum price of 1'000 for e-bikes to filter the trash. The list starts with a Trek for 1'100 CHF https://velomarkt.ch/veloboerse/ganz...By=price%3Aasc
There's also traildevils.ch but the e-bikes are nuts, nothing under 3K :/ https://traildevils.ch/Market | The following 3 users would like to thank Axa for this useful post: | | 
28.01.2022, 16:03
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I am selling a Trek E Bike, it is a Trek Conduit (Trekking Bike) i bought it for 2000 sfr new from a dealer in nürensdorf(was a special price because it is an older model), i done around 6000 km in 2 years,it has a shimano akku /MOTOR and runs 25km with the motor. https://velomarkt.ch/ucp/items/127295 | 
28.01.2022, 17:47
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My recommendation? Rent a bike for a month or two first. Otherwise you could end up with an expensive ornament in your garage.
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28.01.2022, 18:06
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I have a cube reaction hybrid.. brilliant for forest hard dirt / gravel tracks
Be aware that all e-bikes are a bit rubbish in mud .. they are heavy and they sink ! Pay around 3k for the bigger battery.
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28.01.2022, 18:17
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I get my e-bike serviced annually. There’s nothing worse than being out in the boonies with a broken down bike.
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28.01.2022, 19:22
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I have a Commencal Meta Power TR and its great, although probably above what you want to invest.
I have heard many great things about the Decathlon Stilus. It depends what exactly you are looking for, as full suspension will be more expensive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3iJlfGAxps&t=322s | 
28.01.2022, 20:01
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| | Re: ebike recommendations? | Quote: | |  | | | I have a Commencal Meta Power TR and its great, although probably above what you want to invest.
I have heard many great things about the Decathlon Stilus. It depends what exactly you are looking for, as full suspension will be more expensive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3iJlfGAxps&t=322s | | | | | More expensive but worth every Rappen.
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28.01.2022, 23:38
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Check m-way.ch sometimes they have good deals. I would wait for discounts and buy a good bike rather than getting a cheap one. Especially when it comes to mountain bike. I have quit a few mountain bikes, bosch motor was the best so far.
German website bike24.de might also be worth checking, they ship to Switzerland no problem.
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29.01.2022, 07:51
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I have also heard that the Bosch is the best motor (after I ordered my bike with the Shimano motor), but if you have never ridden an ebike before you wont notice the difference. I have loved riding my bike and it's unlikely I would ever buy another non ebike again!
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29.01.2022, 07:58
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| | Re: ebike recommendations? | Quote: | |  | | | Check m-way.ch sometimes they have good deals. | | | | |
Someone was reading your mind! https://m-way.ch/sale/ | This user would like to thank NickGB for this useful post: | | 
29.01.2022, 10:19
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When I buy my next e-bike, I would like:
- full suspension
- a seat that raises and lowers automatically
- mountain bike tires
- best battery around for longer rides
- lights that are hooked up to the battery
- easily removable wheels so I can lift and store the bike easier
- a basket (I hate wearing backpacks and I'm a fan of my present basket)
I will also buy my next bike at a bike store that offers repair service simply because I get better service and advice. E-bikes are one of those products that are worth spending more on for increased reliability, functionality and enjoyment.
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29.01.2022, 11:59
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| | Re: ebike recommendations? | Quote: | |  | | | When I buy my next e-bike, I would like:
- full suspension
- a seat that raises and lowers automatically
- mountain bike tires
- best battery around for longer rides
- lights that are hooked up to the battery
- easily removable wheels so I can lift and store the bike easier
- a basket (I hate wearing backpacks and I'm a fan of my present basket)
I will also buy my next bike at a bike store that offers repair service simply because I get better service and advice. E-bikes are one of those products that are worth spending more on for increased reliability, functionality and enjoyment. | | | | | I would suggest thinking twice before getting removable wheels for a bike with a basket😁 you go lädele and your wheels are gone. Locking both wheels and the frame is difficult….
Tires offroad and for the city are very different. Why would you need mountain bike tires in the city? Or a basket on a trail?
Rockshox dropper is easier to install yourself, you can even get a used one. Buying a bike with one on will be much more expensive.
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29.01.2022, 12:19
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| | Re: ebike recommendations? | Quote: | |  | | | I would suggest thinking twice before getting removable wheels for a bike with a basket�� you go lädele and your wheels are gone. Locking both wheels and the frame is difficult….
Tires offroad and for the city are very different. Why would you need mountain bike tires in the city? Or a basket on a trail?
Rockshox dropper is easier to install yourself, you can even get a used one. Buying a bike with one on will be much more expensive. | | | | | Nopeno, you can have both mountain bike tires and a basket. I ride on gravel roads and good trails but don't do downhilling. I also ride to work. I've even done multiple day rides where I'm continuously grateful that I can throw my backpack and gear into my basket.
When I load my bike into the back of my car, I struggle because I can't remove the front wheel easily. E-bikes are bulky and heavy.
Buy an e-bike that fits your lifestyle and ignore those who snicker at the accessories chosen. My bike has a basket, three additional reflector stripes, snap on lights, and splatter protectors. I carry my battery charger with me when I go on longer rides and plug it in at restaurants when I need an extra bar of power.
I also wear a bum bag (gasp!) for my mobile so I can quickly stop and take photos. It's great to be unique
Edit: I'll have to look into that Rockshox dropper. Thanks for the heads up
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29.01.2022, 12:42
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I bought a decathlon riverside hybrid e-bike a year ago and it's not bad https://www.decathlon.ch/de/browse/c...ike/_/N-qngwr6 | 
29.01.2022, 18:16
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| | Re: ebike recommendations? | Quote: | |  | | | Nopeno, you can have both mountain bike tires and a basket. I ride on gravel roads and good trails but don't do downhilling. I also ride to work. I've even done multiple day rides where I'm continuously grateful that I can throw my backpack and gear into my basket.
When I load my bike into the back of my car, I struggle because I can't remove the front wheel easily. E-bikes are bulky and heavy.
Buy an e-bike that fits your lifestyle and ignore those who snicker at the accessories chosen. My bike has a basket, three additional reflector stripes, snap on lights, and splatter protectors. I carry my battery charger with me when I go on longer rides and plug it in at restaurants when I need an extra bar of power.
I also wear a bum bag (gasp!) for my mobile so I can quickly stop and take photos. It's great to be unique 
Edit: I'll have to look into that Rockshox dropper. Thanks for the heads up | | | | |
For what you describe, I think full suspension may not be necessary. It adds weight and you lose a lot of pedal power. You have to be doing some impressive downhill trails to justify full suspension. If you must and you aren't tackling big drops and jumps then go with low travel suspension.
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