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Just to say that were Begda was killed is now a roundabout. Much safer. And locally, the kindergarten route to school from our area has a light controlled pedestrian crossing, after a local referendum forced it.

Just before Christmas, there was a police officer teaching kindergarten children how to safely cross the road near us. So cute. All the drivers and cyclist were perfectly patient. Of course the officer, well she did have a gun...

I would expect that at least one driver has been charged with the hit-and-run, and the others possibly with failing to stop and assist (ie driving around the corpse)

I would be interested to know how they have been identified..traffic cameras and/or GPS metadata could be involved.

Desperately sad, even more so given the time of year when it happened.

Whilst I normally fully support Kindergarteners walking to school on their own, and think how they're taught to cross a road (i.e. not crossing until the wheels of the vehicle have stopped moving) is sufficient, one has to wonder at the safety of letting 5 year old's walk to kindergarten in the darkest months of winter in busy cities unaccompanied.

I walk this junction every day during my lunch break (Wipkingerbruecke to Hardstrasse). There are traffic lights for every pedestrian crossing, even for crossing the tram lines. The only way to get hit as a pedestrian is to ignore the lights or have the car driver ignore the lights.

In my experience these accidents are never that black or white.... In any case I think the most horrible thing here is that no one stopped 😞 Let's see what the police finds out

Here I was complaining a few weeks ago about people not helping me after my accident, this is unimaginable.

If you have completed a first aid course, you are obligated to help.

I suppose all the subsequent drivers who saw it might have got their licenses abroad...

It's a shame, really, that a first aid course isn't required in order to get a resident permit here. I certainly wouldn't have minded taking one. I didn't even have to take a driving test in order to get my US driver's license converted to CH. I also wish first aid courses were required in schools. (But I know that's a discussion for a different thread).

From what I see in the article, that looks like a busy and rather complex intersection / area. I'm not sure I'd be comfortable having my 5-year old walk to school alone if he had to deal with that. No matter how much you try to teach your kids about carefully crossing a road, all it takes is one untied shoelace to trip over or one idiot who isn't paying attention.

(I was in Amsterdam in October and literally every driver of every taxi we we were in was texting while driving ).

It is a very busy and complex area of bicycle, bus, tram and road lanes. Even I have concerns when crossing it. But there are residential areas with many kids nearby, and his kindergarten on the other side of it. While I also wouldn’t have let my child at age 5 ever tackle that on their own, it happened. I am sure that a full investigation on the crossing and all the circumstances around it will be taking place.

As to anyone passing-by without having any first-aid course - it doesn’t take much to stop, block-off the road, and call emergency services does it? And doing whatever else you can. I hope there are some answers very soon …

Speak for yourself. I've stopped and helped ( and quite often been the first to react) at many road traffic and other accidents.

You don't need a law to do the right thing but first aid training does help.

And if you do not know what you are doing already blocking the traffic and calling an ambulance helps. At times minutes make the difference between life and death.

I have been trained in first aid but not sure I would be able to move a child that has been hit without worrying that I am creating even more trauma .

Most of the time, you shouldn't move the child. Leave that to the experts. (There are exceptions).

A lot of people are in shock and forget to call an ambulance. That's the first thing I ask.

I once witnessed a kindergarten child falling out of a tree, landing in a twisted mess on the grass. Immediately, another child, then aged 5 or 6, shouted: "Don't move him! Get the teacher!" and stood guard.

When said teacher arrived, however, she wanted to help the child up from the ground. The guarding child intervened sharply, asking: "Don't you know his neck could be broken?"

Then she competently led the teacher through a number of tests, mainly the kind you'd use to check for a stroke, too, i.e. whether the person can feel stimuli on the periphery, and can distinguish between left and right, and then, can indicate or move across the diagonals, plus spoken questions for name, address, birthday, and asking whether the person could describe what had just happened. The teacher was stunned and submitted. Only after all those tests had been performed successfully, did the guarding child permit the one who'd fallen to be helped up.

Later, I told that child's mother about her admirable intervention and excellent service. "Oh, no!" she cried: "She'll probably go into a medical profession. My husband and I are a doctor and a nurse, and we'd so hoped that our children would train for some other, more gratifying kind of work."

That is a fantastic response from the child. Hats off to them and the parents.

I had a friend who crashed his paraglider badly in the North of Italy.

He knew he had broken his back and being an ex-soldier, had first-aid training.
Some locals came along and were going to move him. He didn't know a word of Italian and he had to shout and swear a lot to get them to leave him alone but call for professional help!

When they did that last year at the pedestrian crossing on the road going through where we live, the incredulous Police Officer could not believe that, despite of him standing there waiting in uniform, surrounded by twenty kids in day-glow orange vests, quite a few cars drove straight across.

His colleague took down a few numbers that morning!

If there is an end of year poll 2023 as ‘Best Post Ever, then this currently comes top of my list!

I know first aid and calling an ambulance would be paramount in this story, but I also can’t believe some people purposely chose not to comfort a dying child. It makes my blood boil honestly … the mind boggles.

And this stretch is a main artery out of the city. I walk my dog a few times a day between Esher-Wyss and Altstetten. The drivers here are crazy: gunning it to catch green lights, fast around the corners up to Pfingstweidstrasse, cutting across lates...and the amount of honking. The speed cameras (I think there's at least 4) are like a disco strobe lights (one reflects into my living room )

Can usually play bingo with the license plate cantons :P

It was a horrific accident. My 5 year old is so small that if the car was big enough, the driver might never know what they did. Particularly if the child was thrown to the side of the road. In this case, i would not expect passing cars to notice anything lying on the side of the road, or to register that it is a child in the split second they pass. Its better for our health to assume the best in people.

That said, i do rage at the carelessness of drivers through the city.