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Old 12.01.2023, 21:46
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Re: Hit and run at Escher-Wyss Platz - 5yo killed

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Of course there are laws, but the chances that a driver misses a pedestrian crossing in the middle of nowhere are higher compared to urban areas where you're already going at 50 kmh.
If they are missing road signs then they are driving too fast for their ability.

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The speed limits are a limit, not a target.
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Re: Hit and run at Escher-Wyss Platz - 5yo killed

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Does anyone know why the father deleted the video on TikTok?

It doesn't make sense. Was he asked to by the Police as apparently it's illegal here to film anyone breaking the law in a car.
According to the 20 Mins article:

„. However, he is surprised about the comments on Tiktok: "It's exciting, at the beginning there were actually only positive comments," says P.S. "At some point there were only negative ones." In the meantime, he has deleted the video on Tiktok - it had over 250,000 views.

Critical comments say that the boy is standing too far away from the street. P.S. has no understanding for this: "I measured it," he says. "It's 55 cm. That should be enough for cars to stop. Besides, it's dangerous for children to stand too close to the road." „

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There's no way P.S.* would have expected his video on Tiktok to have such an impact. "That it goes viral, yes," he tells 20 Minuten, "but immediately so blatantly? That's very special and shows that people are interested." The father from Leimiswil BE had shown his son standing for minutes at a pedestrian crossing, waiting for a car - or bicycle - to finally stop. Only when the boy stands there with a bright bar lamp does a vehicle stop.
P.S. has lived in this dangerous spot for two years. "It's actually always like this," he says. He locates the problem in the attentiveness of drivers. "When we sit outside in the summer, we can watch people speed by here. Often people are on their cell phones, once there was even one on his laptop. I think it's unbelievable."

Debate about traffic safety
With the video, P.S. - who himself worked in traffic services for a long time - wanted to make an impact: "I want people to talk about how fast and inattentive many drivers are here," he says. "A lot of people probably think 'Well, here we are in the country, there are no people here.' But there are people living here, too, along the road."

Infrastructure is also a concern to him, "I hope pedestrian crossings are better secured. Not only here, there are more in our region. People who live in the area also confirm that to me."

What the village thinks
20 Minuten asked around in the community: Claudia R. (41) finds the video "frightening". However, the situation in the center of the community is good and she has not yet experienced any dangerous situations there. "I teach my children to watch the road," R. says.

"It's common practice," says Yvonne D. (60). She also says many cars don't stop at the crossing near the school, "They then wave apologetically but just keep going. That really upsets me."

The canton says it regularly checks the infrastructure. Based on the video, they will now bring forward the inspection of the pedestrian lane. P.S. is "very happy about that."


I‘ve actually looked at all the internet links available for that village, and it seems that they really do a lot for road safety on the normal school route, particularly centrally. And there is a school bus service available according to age for those living further out.
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Old 12.01.2023, 21:54
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Yes, but he didn't say why he deleted it.
Well, it‘s a village in the Berner Oberland and a 20 Mins reportage
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Old 12.01.2023, 22:00
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Well, it‘s a village in the Berner Oberland and a 20 Mins reportage
I don't understand that as an explanation. Please elaborate.
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I don't understand that as an explanation. Please elaborate.
Apologies, meaning that it will not have any details unless it‘s actually picked-up by national media tomorrow. If it‘s not actually picked-up by national media, then it probably remains a Tik-Tok story that was picked-up by 20 Mins and social media, and could be without any substance at all.

The issues still remain the same however.
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