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Re: Easjet Basel-Luton route cancelled?

Hey guys,

I've only skim-read this threa, but it looks like Ryanair are taking over the Basel to Stansted route from 21 December. I found this out from attempting to book flights on their website.
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Re: Easjet Basel-Luton route cancelled?

Hi,

I have never flown with Ryanair but I have never had any problems with Easyjet. I suppose some fear about flights going from Zurich rather than Basel dates back to when Swissair collapsed and they destroyed Crossair to create Swiss and to save Zurich airport. After Swissair abandoned Basel airport it was Crossair that provided the core of all the flights from Basel.

So when I see the number of flights reducing from Basel again of course it does ring some alarm bells. Flying from Zurich adds at least 3 hours to the overall trip which is a real pain when the flight itself is so short.

Ryanair seems to have some ridiculously low hold baggage limits....which make it fairly impractical if you are going away for more than a few days.

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Personally I can't stand Ryanair and Easyjet, but I suppose their target market are leisure and VFR. Its not the no-frills that bothers me, more the cattle-herding, scramble for seats ....
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I have to say that the herding works much better, and is much more civilised at Zurich than Basel.

At Zurich, you are herded down a set of steps in single file and then segregated into your boarding group. It's really quite difficult for people to abuse the queue.

At Basel, it's a free-for-all to the ticket check desk prior to boarding the bus to the plane, irrespectively of whether you have speedy boarding, young children, or are in boarding groups A and B.
It's so unpleasant if you've got young children that I probably won't use it again.

(You know who, you sad middle-aged English couple of XXXXs who wouldn't let me or my family through and then physically assaulted us despite us having been called to the desk).
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Re: Easjet Basel-Luton route cancelled?

Thanks to a tip from Ric I just checked my flights to find out that Easy Jet have decided to cancel 2 of my flights for December. One from Zurich to Luton and the other from Basel to Stansted. They didn't even tell me! I only found out by checking it myself.

They offered me a free transfer but nothing was any good so I got a full refund instead.

Looks like I'll have to look at other options to get back to the UK for Christmas.
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Just to put the records straight and to reply to an earlier question..I don't work for EJ, I work for the Swiss Government in Bern.
So far I have travelled in the last 12 weeks almost 30 times with EJ from a UK airport to a Swiss Airport without a single problem. The EJ boarding system works very well and if you know how the system works you can use it to your advantage. I do not travel with luggage so there is no queing at airports, straight through Security straight to the gate 30 minutes before departure and on arrival at destination, either straight into a waiting car or onto SBB for a pleasant journey....
I cannot for the life of me understand why everyone is bleating on about flight routes..make do with what is on offer (so what if you have to travel a little further either end or the other alternative is....don't travel
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Yes, sorry, my comment regarding the behaviour of people in the EasyJet queues at Basel was off-topic but it has happened so many times there - leaving my wife in tears at one point that I just had to get it off my chest...

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Just to put the records straight and to reply to an earlier question..I don't work for EJ, I work for the Swiss Government in Bern
LOL, why doesn't that surprise me. You have about as much empathy for your fellow man as can be expected from a civil servant.
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Just to put the records straight and to reply to an earlier question..I don't work for EJ, I work for the Swiss Government in Bern.
So far I have travelled in the last 12 weeks almost 30 times with EJ from a UK airport to a Swiss Airport without a single problem. The EJ boarding system works very well and if you know how the system works you can use it to your advantage. I do not travel with luggage so there is no queing at airports, straight through Security straight to the gate 30 minutes before departure and on arrival at destination, either straight into a waiting car or onto SBB for a pleasant journey....
I cannot for the life of me understand why everyone is bleating on about flight routes..make do with what is on offer (so what if you have to travel a little further either end or the other alternative is....don't travel
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Shut it MJones, I'll bleat when I want to bleat. I'm bleating because the option of a cheap flight to the north of England has been severely curtailed for me.

Don't tell me how to feel or what to do. I take it you deal with morons who have to be trained in your day job. Please don't treat us like morons, it leaves an unpleasant trail on your post.

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Just to put the records straight and to reply to an earlier question..I don't work for EJ, I work for the Swiss Government in Bern.
So far I have travelled in the last 12 weeks almost 30 times with EJ from a UK airport to a Swiss Airport without a single problem. The EJ boarding system works very well and if you know how the system works you can use it to your advantage. I do not travel with luggage so there is no queing at airports, straight through Security straight to the gate 30 minutes before departure and on arrival at destination, either straight into a waiting car or onto SBB for a pleasant journey....
I cannot for the life of me understand why everyone is bleating on about flight routes..make do with what is on offer (so what if you have to travel a little further either end or the other alternative is....don't travel
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I'm pleased you have found the Easyjet experience good, because so have I. However, I just wish to continue with my EJ expirience from Basel to Liverepool. I am not asking for the earth and for the life of me I really can't work out why you think, I and others who live here shouldn't be allowed to continue using that flight. You work for the government you say. I think you will find that unlike the UK the Swiss will not bow to your ideas that they must put up with what's available as they do in the UK. Welcome to Switzerland, where the people decide and civil servents follow!
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Shut it MJones, I'll bleat when I want to bleat. I'm bleating because the option of a cheap flight to the north of England has been severely curtailed for me.

Don't tell me how to feel or what to do. I take it you deal with morons who have to be trained in your day job. Please don't treat us like morons, it leaves an unpleasant trail on your post.

Thank you.

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Put your foot back in you rmouth......I assume that you make this trip back to the North of England on a regular basis, weekly, monthly or ? and that is why you are bleating on about the removal of this service...unless i'm mistaken wasn't this your first post to this thread.......typical ..sit back and observe and then jump on someone with insults...very grown up of you...
Not only are you throwing insults at me but also at my work colleagues, do you know any of us, I think not...Why don't you crawl back under the stone that you emerged from.

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Re: Easjet Basel-Luton route cancelled?

Hey hey hey MJones....no need! Why the hostility??? This is just a discussion about flight routes and TBH I understand why people are annoyed about the route changes as you do get used to having an airport 10 mins down the road and the fact that when you get off the plane you are home within half an hour. It's not necessary to get so personal and start attacking people.

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Re: Easjet Basel-Luton route cancelled?

Did you know that the Swissair board had 26 members at its peak including a tradeshow organeier, a number of government representatives and regional development interests, and not one of them had an aviation management experience ?

One of the reasons for Swissairs demise was internal competition both on location (BSL-ZRH) and culture (Crossair: informal entrepreneurial vs Swissair: German style conservative).

Swissair had ambitions beyond its capabilities and to try and develop not just one, but two hubs in such a small domestic market was misguided.

Basel airport is selling itself of being the three country and city airport :
Mulhouse, Freiburg and Basel. It has a large international catchment area, and does mainly short haul and charter so it seems to understand its market positioning.

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Hi,

I have never flown with Ryanair but I have never had any problems with Easyjet. I suppose some fear about flights going from Zurich rather than Basel dates back to when Swissair collapsed and they destroyed Crossair to create Swiss and to save Zurich airport. After Swissair abandoned Basel airport it was Crossair that provided the core of all the flights from Basel.

So when I see the number of flights reducing from Basel again of course it does ring some alarm bells. Flying from Zurich adds at least 3 hours to the overall trip which is a real pain when the flight itself is so short.

Ryanair seems to have some ridiculously low hold baggage limits....which make it fairly impractical if you are going away for more than a few days.

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Re: Easjet Basel-Luton route cancelled?

do you know any of us, I think not...J[/quote]

I think perhaps you should read your own words. How can you sit there in judgement and tell us that is it ok to suddenly add time and costs to our journey is beyond me!

You have said you are travelling alone, without luggage and already have cars waiting for you at the UK end. You have no idea how other people travel, With children,with disabled or infirm family members.

The whole point of sharing infromation on sites like this, is to share ones experience. Not to be told that our opinions aren't valid by someone who is not open to other peoples experiences.
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I think you are perfectly suited to a job in swiss government.
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I cannot for the life of me understand why everyone is bleating on about flight routes..make do with what is on offer (so what if you have to travel a little further either end or the other alternative is....don't travel
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Re: Easjet Basel-Luton route cancelled?

I wasn't the one that started throwing insults was I ? All of my posts prior to the last one was based on facts and my own experience, then suddenly i'm insulted by someone that doesn't even know me and to make matters worse she insults the people that I work with......
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Morning all! Rather than talking about the inconvinience that the cancellation of easyjet flights will bring and their experiences with easyjet does anyone actually know if flights to the UK from Basel will be cancelled?? I too noticed that after 1st November the only UK airport which one can book a flight to is Gatwick. I emailed easyjet about the lack of flights to other UK airports and received this response:

"Thank you for contacting us.

I would like to inform you that we do have flights from London Gatwick to Basel-Mulhouse after 03 Nov 2008.The exact date depends on confirmation of flight slots from the relevant air traffic control authorities. I am sorry that I am unable to give you a more precise date of the flights from other airports of London.

However, I would suggest that you register for easyJet e-mail updates on the easyJet web site. As well as advising of forthcoming promotions, this will also give advance notice of the schedule release dates. If you would like to receive such em ails, please go to the ‘my easyJet.com’ section of our website, scroll down and click on ‘sign up now’... "

From what everyone has been saying it sounds like easyjet are going to cancel flights to all other UK airports bar Gatwick. I too have heard rumours or this but can anyone actually confirm that this is going to happen??? From the response above it sounds like they just haven't received air traffic control slots yet. But this may just be easyjet procrastinating... any ideas???
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Re: Easjet Basel-Luton route cancelled?

You gave as good as you got; now stop. Get back on topic folks please.

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I wasn't the one that started throwing insults was I ? All of my posts prior to the last one was based on facts and my own experience, then suddenly i'm insulted by someone that doesn't even know me and to make matters worse she insults the people that I work with......
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Re: Easjet Basel-Luton route cancelled?

We are talking about an industry that is set to see passenger numbers increase by 5% year on year over next 20 years. Competition is extreme, and there are now few barriers to entry, either financial or regulatory. The current climate of high oil prices ; very tight margins and the paradigm shift caused by the low-cost sector means that all airlines need to control costs very carefully and monitor and cut loss-making routes. Low-cost airlines such as ESY and RYN can do this without the need experienced by the network carriers to maintain a schedule or lose their grand-daddy rights to the valuable slots at major airports.

I think you will find your sweeping statements about "make do" triggered a lot of irritation. The airline industry will respond to demand, and many of them monitor their revenue stream by the minute. To offer general advice to "make-do" to your customer base would lead to the early demise of your airline : were you to working be a commercial environment rather than the rarified atmosphere of a government department...

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Put your foot back in you rmouth......I assume that you make this trip back to the North of England on a regular basis, weekly, monthly or ? and that is why you are bleating on about the removal of this service...unless i'm mistaken wasn't this your first post to this thread.......typical ..sit back and observe and then jump on someone with insults...very grown up of you...
Not only are you throwing insults at me but also at my work colleagues, do you know any of us, I think not...Why don't you crawl back under the stone that you emerged from.

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I wasn't the one that started throwing insults was I ?
Debatable. Your second post:

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