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Re: Buying a motorcycle from the UK

I bought a new 2009 Triumph Sprint ST 1050 ABS. Warranty claims are handled by any authorized dealership worldwide.

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After negotiating with various transport companies, I was not satisfied with how long it would take them to bring the bike here, nor with the prices (I was being quoted 350GBP for transport, plus 200GBP for a crate, and two weeks for delivery).
Actually the quote you mentioned doesn't sound too harsh for a 200+kg motorbike, could you possibly disclose the name/s of the transport company/ies? Thanks
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Hi Alistair,

I checked with a couple of them, but I can now only find the details for one: A1 UK Transportation, which is more or less a man with a van, contact Julie @ +447976242827. We could not agree on the delivery details, which is why I ended up going over to the UK myself, but maybe things will work out better for you.

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yep, probably "a man with a van" is what's needed in these cases, if my purchase will materialize i'll definitely give them a call. thanks a million for the info
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Hi,

I figured this thread was due for an update, as it may well benefit others who are looking to do the same thing.

After negotiating with various transport companies, I was not satisfied with how long it would take them to bring the bike here, nor with the prices (I was being quoted 350GBP for transport, plus 200GBP for a crate, and two weeks for delivery). The Wednesday before the long Easter weekend, I called up Sixt and rented their smallest van, for CHF1200 (full insurance + unlimited mileage). I also picked up a set of temporary license plates (Tagesschilder) valid for four days (maximum validity) and called the insurance company and got a green card insurance (I used www.nvc.ch, they're middlemen for Zurich and quite helpful). I left home at about 6 in the afternoon that Thursday, and arrived in Manchester at around 11am the following morning, having slept for about three hours on the ferry and in a parking lot around Dover.

The following day, Saturday, I broke in the bike, having to constantly remind myself to keep left was a pain. That evening we loaded the bike in the van, and tied it down. If you want to do this, you'll be needing at least one long sturdy plank to serve as a ramp, two if you want to be able to unload it by yourself (you want to be able to walk up/down alongside the bike). ERZ charged me 30 CHF to dispose of the wood once I was done with it.

Sunday midday we left for Switzerland, this time spending the night in a hotel in France, and arriving at Basel Customs around 1pm on Monday. Since this was a holiday, they were unable to do the import procedure there, but gave me a Vormerkschein Form. 15.25 that allowed me to do it in Zurich within two days.

Tuesday I rode (with a new set of temp plates) to the Zurich Customs office at Freilagerstrasse, and spent about an hour doing the import procedure. I was able to defer paying taxes/import duties on it for a year and a half (it's a maximum of two years from when you first enter the country), and managed to get by with a mixture of German/French and English. The officer who helped me was not very pleased that it is possible for foreigners to do this, but not for the Swiss, which I thought was quite funny.

Wednesday, with import papers in hand, I went again to the STVA (who know me quite well by now), and scheduled an appointment to get the bike inspected. They initially gave me June 3rd, which was six weeks away, but said I should email/call them and ask for a closer one, which ended up being May 8th.

Skip ahead to yesterday, I got to the STVA at about 12:30 for a 12:45 appointment. They have a separate queue for motorcycles, I was second in line, but they can do three at a time. I put my bike on a lift, but they never actually went over it. Most of the time I was there, the inspector checked paperwork and copied over information. He then took it out for a ride, and came back to say that my speedometer was dead on, with no margin of error at all. Good on Triumph. He then handed me the paperwork, and explained (in English) which desk I needed to go to. 20 more minutes later, I had paid ~250 CHF for paperwork and vignette, and was handed a new plate (with a Z at the end to signify customs haven't been paid). I now need to get in touch with my insurance and Triumph to let them know my license plate, so they can send me the proof of insurance, and process my warranty, respectively.

When you order the bike it will need:
- a headlight change to the continental spec (mandatory)
- speedometer in km/h, or at least showing both miles and km/h (mandatory)

If you want to ride home:
- Swiss temp plates are valid in the UK, France might have a problem (nobody could give me a clear answer). But since motorcycle plates don't have the "U" temporary marking, there's nothing to distinguish them from the "real" ones, so you could chance it.

- If the bike is new, you'll want to do it over a couple of days, so as to actually be able to break in the engine properly. Make sure to arrange for service beforehand.

At the customs, you'll need:
- the DVLA form that the dealership would have sent out
- certificate of conformity
- some sort of bill of sale
- your residence permit

At the STVA you'll need:
- Customs forms (13.20, plus the import tax deferment one if you choose that)
- Certificate of Conformity
- DVLA form
- your residence permit
- about CHF250

If you have the Z plates, you will not be able to sell your motorcycle until you pay customs duties.

I think that covers everything

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Stefan.
Stefan,

Since you seem to be well-versed in the customs area, perhaps you could give me a bit of direction?

I'm seriously wanting a Ducati Monster 620, and they are seriously expensive in Switzerland. I live in Geneva, which makes heading to France quite easy, so I'm looking to probably do what you did, only a bit easier.

I want to buy a used Ducati in France - where they're much cheaper - and "import" it for my own personal use here in Switzerland. I'm originally from the USA, and I'm on a short-term permit for a two-year maximum. By my understanding, I could potentially have the guy I buy it from drive to the French-Swiss border, purchase my Ducati at the border in France, then walk it across through customs and take care of the paperwork. Then afterwards walk the bike home, (it's only about 1km to my home) and ride it after I get plates for it.

My question is: which taxes will I have to pay?
-I assume import tax is inapplicable
-Vehicle tax: 4%. If I did what you did, would I have to pay that?
-VAT: 7.6%. Same as previous question.
-Anything else I would have to consider?

Thanks in advance for your help, I appreciate the effort.
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Then afterwards walk the bike home, (it's only about 1km to my home) and ride it after I get plates for it.
You might want to check with your local DMV on that one because I think it might be illegal to even walk an unregistered vehicle on the streets of Switzerland.
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Stefan,

Since you seem to be well-versed in the customs area, perhaps you could give me a bit of direction?

I'm seriously wanting a Ducati Monster 620, and they are seriously expensive in Switzerland. I live in Geneva, which makes heading to France quite easy, so I'm looking to probably do what you did, only a bit easier.

I want to buy a used Ducati in France - where they're much cheaper - and "import" it for my own personal use here in Switzerland. I'm originally from the USA, and I'm on a short-term permit for a two-year maximum. By my understanding, I could potentially have the guy I buy it from drive to the French-Swiss border, purchase my Ducati at the border in France, then walk it across through customs and take care of the paperwork. Then afterwards walk the bike home, (it's only about 1km to my home) and ride it after I get plates for it.
Why not get temporary plates for it from your local traffic department, they're valid for three days and come with insurance. No need to have the guy drive over or anything.

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My question is: which taxes will I have to pay?
-I assume import tax is inapplicable
-Vehicle tax: 4%. If I did what you did, would I have to pay that?
-VAT: 7.6%. Same as previous question.
-Anything else I would have to consider?

Thanks in advance for your help, I appreciate the effort.
Based on my research and experience, you shouldn't need to pay any taxes as long as you don't stay here over the two year period. So no import tax/vehicle tax/vat, and you will get Zoll plates, ie plates that have a Z at the end. If you do stay, or try to resell the bike in Switzerland, you will have to pay those taxes.

Hope this helps,

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Why not get temporary plates for it from your local traffic department, they're valid for three days and come with insurance. No need to have the guy drive over or anything.



Based on my research and experience, you shouldn't need to pay any taxes as long as you don't stay here over the two year period. So no import tax/vehicle tax/vat, and you will get Zoll plates, ie plates that have a Z at the end. If you do stay, or try to resell the bike in Switzerland, you will have to pay those taxes.

Hope this helps,

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Hi Stefan , am thinking of doing something similar but in Germany. The catch is I only have a licence up to a 125 here (which I have) i.e. the 8 hour test thing. Hence I'm wondering if it's possible to get those plates and for me to drive the bike from Germany across the border and then import it. Any ideas ?
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Hi Stefan , am thinking of doing something similar but in Germany. The catch is I only have a licence up to a 125 here (which I have) i.e. the 8 hour test thing. Hence I'm wondering if it's possible to get those plates and for me to drive the bike from Germany across the border and then import it. Any ideas ?
You will only be abe to buy upto 125 then! You can't ride a bike which you don't have a license for.
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You will only be abe to buy upto 125 then! You can't ride a bike which you don't have a license for.
Don't you get a temporary license (as I did for the 125) before you get the actual test ?
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Don't you get a temporary license (as I did for the 125) before you get the actual test ?
Sure, but it's only valid in Switzerland.

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Sure, but it's only valid in Switzerland.

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Ok so I'd need the van to get it to the border.
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Ok so I'd need the van to get it to the border.
What year/make/model is the bike?

There may be a LOT more involved (done it twice, though not from Germany).

Realistically, you first need to make sure that you can register it in CH, and what additional mods/testing it may need (and yes, you may well need them unless it's over 30 years old).

Even then, a trailer or van is your best bet.

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What year/make/model is the bike?

There may be a LOT more involved (done it twice, though not from Germany).

Realistically, you first need to make sure that you can register it in CH, and what additional mods/testing it may need (and yes, you may well need them unless it's over 30 years old).

Even then, a trailer or van is your best bet.

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Hi Tom ,

something like this :

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...#ht_808wt_1139
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OK, I would check with the importer in CH, but that should be drivable with the A1 license (there is no more the '125'cc' license), and also ask what, if any mods you would need to make, as they would know.

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OK, I would check with the importer in CH, but that should be drivable with the A1 license (there is no more the '125'cc' license), and also ask what, if any mods you would need to make, as they would know.

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Hi again Tom ,
what you posted seems to be in contradiction to this :
http://www.autoscout24.ch/as24web/Mo...=515&cmscid=15

In other words I would still be restricted to below 11kW and 125cc. Do you have a link which presents other info ?
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In other words I would still be restricted to below 11kW and 125cc. Do you have a link which presents other info ?
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You have a restricited license, obviousely you can only ride what your licensed to ride. Look at the license groups it's not rocket science, I know this is not what you want to hear.....
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You have a restricited license, obviousely you can only ride what your licensed to ride. Look at the license groups it's not rocket science, I know this is not what you want to hear.....
Which is different to the post above mine - hence the question.
Tom seems to have a bit of experience in this sort of caper , as well as being open with some advice.

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Hi again Tom ,
what you posted seems to be in contradiction to this :
http://www.autoscout24.ch/as24web/Mo...=515&cmscid=15

In other words I would still be restricted to below 11kW and 125cc. Do you have a link which presents other info ?
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Sorry, I've gotten confused with the new licenses.

There is A1, A restricted, A unrestricted, etc.

So which do you have?

I got confused because friends who had older 125cc licenses got upgraded automatically to A restricted (34kW), rather than to A1, when the new laws came about.

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Sorry, I've gotten confused with the new licenses.

There is A1, A restricted, A unrestricted, etc.

So which do you have?

I got confused because friends who had older 125cc licenses got upgraded automatically to A restricted (34kW), rather than to A1, when the new laws came about.

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No problem Tom , I have the A1 (got it last year). It's still doable - I just need to get the bike down here by van first.
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