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Old 23.02.2009, 21:39
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Driving lots of wine back to England

We're planning a car trip back to Oxford soon - the idea is to take back loads of Swiss wine (call us crazy but we love it - we live in a wine area and we thing it's awesome), cheese , Rivella (!) etc and to bring back a few household effects such as a few pictures etc.

We would be taking around 10 cases of wine back to England.

The route seems fairly straightforward - into France via the border crossing near St Cergue and then up through Dijon, Reims, Calais etc.

With the advent of the Schengen accord, I know that customs checks are still in place. We're wondering whether to take our chances with the customs or to declare the wine. Does it make a difference if we can show that we are only transiting France en route to the UK? Or are we better off paying duty in France if that's cheaper than what we would pay in the UK?

I guess we can't be the first people to transport lots of Swiss stuff back to the UK. Does anyone else have experiences to share?

On the way back, we are assuming that we are ok to bring back possessions that we've had for years in the UK, but do we need to declare them?

Thanks in advance
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Old 23.02.2009, 22:44
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We're planning a car trip back to Oxford soon - the idea is to take back loads of Swiss wine (call us crazy but we love it - we live in a wine area and we thing it's awesome), cheese , Rivella (!) etc and to bring back a few household effects such as a few pictures etc.

We would be taking around 10 cases of wine back to England.

The route seems fairly straightforward - into France via the border crossing near St Cergue and then up through Dijon, Reims, Calais etc.

With the advent of the Schengen accord, I know that customs checks are still in place. We're wondering whether to take our chances with the customs or to declare the wine. Does it make a difference if we can show that we are only transiting France en route to the UK? Or are we better off paying duty in France if that's cheaper than what we would pay in the UK?

I guess we can't be the first people to transport lots of Swiss stuff back to the UK. Does anyone else have experiences to share?
Haven't seen a French customs guy in years - usually go in through Basel and occasionally see a Swiss guy but the French are always having breakfast or lunch or something in between.

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On the way back, we are assuming that we are ok to bring back possessions that we've had for years in the UK, but do we need to declare them?
Actually not - you have one chance to import your personal goods, older than 6 months, without duty. The shipment can be in more than one part but all parts must be declared when the first shipment comes in. If you intend bringing good in outside of the above general rule then you should declare and pay duty. It's not likely you'd get caught if you didn't but there's always a chance .
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We're planning a car trip back to Oxford soon - the idea is to take back loads of Swiss wine (call us crazy but we love it - we live in a wine area and we thing it's awesome), cheese , Rivella (!) etc and to bring back a few household effects such as a few pictures etc.

We would be taking around 10 cases of wine back to England.

The route seems fairly straightforward - into France via the border crossing near St Cergue and then up through Dijon, Reims, Calais etc.

With the advent of the Schengen accord, I know that customs checks are still in place. We're wondering whether to take our chances with the customs or to declare the wine. Does it make a difference if we can show that we are only transiting France en route to the UK? Or are we better off paying duty in France if that's cheaper than what we would pay in the UK?

I guess we can't be the first people to transport lots of Swiss stuff back to the UK. Does anyone else have experiences to share?

On the way back, we are assuming that we are ok to bring back possessions that we've had for years in the UK, but do we need to declare them?

Thanks in advance
Your risk really. Switzerland aren't in the EU and the law on shipping booze still applies!
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Old 23.02.2009, 23:07
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About wine - I know nothing!

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Actually not - you have one chance to import your personal goods, older than 6 months, without duty. The shipment can be in more than one part but all parts must be declared when the first shipment comes in. If you intend bringing good in outside of the above general rule then you should declare and pay duty. It's not likely you'd get caught if you didn't but there's always a chance .
I've moved vans and even a horsebox full of stuff via the channel tunnel in both directions half a dozen times and although I've been given the once over for security and illegals no one has ever asked me to pay any duty (although coming back from the Netherlands in my twenties with a van full of stuff they asked if I had any pornography and seemed rather disappointed when I said not!).

Mind you, my van/horsebox packing technique is to sling everything into a massive pile up to the ceiling in the back of the van - I think half the time they look in the back, recoil in horror at the thought of taking it all out and itemising it and deceide to search/hassle someone else. That technique works even better at Swiss customs where they even call over their mates to laugh at my packing technique sometimes :-)
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Old 23.02.2009, 23:08
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Actually not - you have one chance to import your personal goods, older than 6 months, without duty. The shipment can be in more than one part but all parts must be declared when the first shipment comes in. If you intend bringing good in outside of the above general rule then you should declare and pay duty. It's not likely you'd get caught if you didn't but there's always a chance .
We've been residents for well over a year. Does that mean that we've lost our chance to bring stuff over? We haven't brought anything over before
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We've been residents for well over a year. Does that mean that we've lost our chance to bring stuff over? We haven't brought anything over before
In theory yes, in practise I've brought vans and trailers of stuff with no problems for the last couple of years. I think the criteria they use is does it look used or not.
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