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Re: Train Fine for not having night ticket Can anyone advise?

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I still think that the ticket machines are horribly programmed.
I have noticed there seems to be two different versions of the touchscreen ticket machine's menus. The ones in the HB are different to the ones in Stadelhofen, and I always seem to have more trouble finding the night ticket on the ones in the HB (although relative levels of intoxication could be in play here ).
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Old 19.03.2009, 16:42
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Thanks all for the responses. I got my ticket down to 30 CHF. so yeey me.
Did you manage to get it to be "unrecorded" against your name when haggling to bring it down to CHF30/- ?

Have you already received your postal notification ?
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Old 19.03.2009, 17:22
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No I didn't give my name and address...
Is it really as simple as that? If you can afford to pay them on the spot, you can simply refuse to identify yourself to them, and keep it from going on your record?
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Old 19.03.2009, 17:29
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Is it really as simple as that? If you can afford to pay them on the spot, you can simply refuse to identify yourself to them, and keep it from going on your record?
Yes. I just paid all that I had in my wallet and said that I didn't want to give my name.
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Yes. I just paid all that I had in my wallet and said that I didn't want to give my name.
Did they even write it down or was it basically a bribe? I didn't know they had the right to charge less, but I have heard of ticket controllers earning a little "bonus" on the side by making people pay less.
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Did they even write it down or was it basically a bribe? I didn't know they had the right to charge less, but I have heard of ticket controllers earning a little "bonus" on the side by making people pay less.
You can't bribe the authorites here. Offering cash to the police to not fine you won't work here like it does where you come from.

I have a receipt for the money I paid too. I nice reminder to stamp my ticket.
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You can't bribe the authorites here. Offering cash to the police to not fine you won't work here like it does where you come from.

I have a receipt for the money I paid too. I nice reminder to stamp my ticket.
I didn't mean blatant bribe, wasn't implying any fault on your part. If you got a receipt it's fine.

Over here in the French-speaking part, night bus ticket checkers apparently love to take advantage of drunk and clueless youngsters by asking them to give whatever money they have if they don't have enough. The kids are just relieved that their parents won't find out and don't bother to notice the guy didn't write anything down.
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It's the sheer dogmatic, bloody-minded dilligence of the inspectors that I find rather awe-inspiring. I once bought a return ticket from Rapperswil to Stein am Rhein. The route there, while scenic, took an eternity on a cross-country trip via Weinfelden and Will etc. I then figured out that the return could be made in less than half the time by taking the D-Bahn to Schaffhausen, and then the fast train south. Got busted literally 2 kms south of Schaffhausen. The little pedant then had to figure out the difference in price that I was liable for, which turned out to be a very complex task, as he was still standing next to my seat pushing buttons half an hour later as we pulled into Zürich HB. The difference would have been in the order of CHF 1:- Finally I said. "Look, this time, why don't you make both our lives easier, and tell me not to be a stupid Ausslander, and buy the right ticket for my journey." He grinned, repeated what I said word for word, and then let me out at ZHB.

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Old 20.03.2009, 15:59
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You can't bribe the authorites here. Offering cash to the police to not fine you won't work here like it does where you come from.

I have a receipt for the money I paid too. I nice reminder to stamp my ticket.

LOL in Mexico I would try to get the fine instead of the bribe....
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Old 20.03.2009, 16:04
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LOL in Mexico I would try to get the fine instead of the bribe....
In Russia it's modus operandi if you want to get anything done. When Russians get their passports renewed at the embassy here in Geneva, bringing them a bottle of wine and some chocolates curiously reduces the waiting period from over a week to a day or two.

But anyway, I wasn't talking about a foreign country. Heh, "where you come from".

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Old 20.03.2009, 16:07
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Has anyone else noticed the number of ticket checks has increased over the past few weeks?
Actually, I noticed the same thing about this time last year. Admittedly, I've only done regular tram/train travel for the last 1.5 years, so I can't say it definitively, but I'm thinking this might be the end of their fiscal year or something when they want to collect more fine income?
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Old 20.03.2009, 16:17
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In the UK it is a a criminal offense to travel without a ticket My ex-colleague ended up in court and got a criminal record when she didn't have the correct ticket. I don't think it is a criminal offense here, but I still wouldn't want my address taken.

I know that under certain circumstances in England you can be done for fraud - happened to a mate. Whether it is normal or not, I don't know. He was caught by some sort of transport police 'sting' operation as he got off at the 'wrong' station for his rail pass.

Seemed pretty harsh to me but he I suspect there was some sort of clampdown under way and they wanted to make an example.
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Old 20.03.2009, 16:26
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Re: Train Fine for not having night ticket Can anyone advise?

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In Russia it's modus operandi if you want to get anything done. When Russians get their passports renewed at the embassy here in Geneva, bringing them a bottle of vine and some chocolates curiously reduces the waiting period from over a week to a day or two.

But anyway, I wasn't talking about a foreign country. Heh, "where you come from".

Tried to do this and find it impossible to get the vine into the bottle. any other suggestions.. lol
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Tried to do this and find it impossible to get the vine into the bottle. any other suggestions.. lol
Ohh, thanks. Damn French infecting my spelling.

Corrected.
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Re: Train Fine for not having night ticket Can anyone advise?

This thread reminds me that "How to Live in Switzerland" was summed up by Sir Alex Ferguson:

"You know the F...king rules round here!"

He was shouting at an interviewer who had dared to ask him about Roy Keane (see my Icon) getting sent off again.

But Sir Alex was actually referring to Switzerland.

It's very simple - you know the rules, if you break them...80 CHF please.
And on the 2 or 3 occasions I've realised I've boarded public transport with an incorrect ticket, I have later had to change my underwear out of fear that a casually dressed ticket inspector was about to bust me...
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Old 21.03.2009, 03:08
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It's very simple - you know the rules, if you break them...80 CHF please.
And on the 2 or 3 occasions I've realised I've boarded public transport with an incorrect ticket, I have later had to change my underwear out of fear that a casually dressed ticket inspector was about to bust me...

I would agree to some extent. think about it this way: involuntary man slaughter and 1rst degree murder are basically the same thing, but you don't get the same punishment for both, it's sorta the same with txs, you have a wrong tix but it make sense to do a judgement call.
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... I have later had to change my underwear out of fear that a casually dressed ticket inspector was about to bust me...
Haven't seen them do that for ages in ZH region - always in uniform nowawdays.
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Old 21.03.2009, 10:24
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Haven't seen them do that for ages in ZH region - always in uniform nowawdays.
The ones without uniforms look like middle-aged students with backpacks on the trains between Zug and Zürich.
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Old 21.03.2009, 11:45
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Haven't seen them do that for ages in ZH region - always in uniform nowawdays.
i've only seen them "plainclothes" on the buses...(which always catches out the schoolkids )
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Re: Train Fine for not having night ticket Can anyone advise?

aghh, i was talking on the phone and boarded 1st class on the S12.


I got slapped with the fine. I came here to check when i messed up the last time.


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