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Old 06.11.2010, 11:09
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... don't bother with posts here, most people here dont know what they are talking about.
Yet you posted with useful links so you don't include yourself in that group?

And langbaobao posted a very useful link which would help other if they could be bothered to read the post.

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New info I found, a FAQ on the Federal Customs Administration page, I think might interest other people as well and I think it covers my case:

http://www.ezv.admin.ch/zollinfo_pri...x.html?lang=en

I guess this should solve my situation...
And several others in this thread have given their personal experience. Maybe they shouldn't bother either?
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You can usually come in and out without having to import it but for this kind of edge cases, don't bother with posts here, most people here dont know what they are talking about.

First Point of call is the Road Traffic Office of the canton, email via their website (For Zuirch its info@stva.zh.ch ). They will tell you if you can drive your car in CH legally without having to do anything

If they point you to having to import it, then contact customs:zentrale.ozd-fahrzeuge@ezv.admin.ch

Both are more then happy on converse in English.
5 points for info, would have been 10 if you'd given the link for Aargau, but 0 for attitude

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I'm guessing since Ill be staying in canton Aargau I should contact that Road traffic Office, correct? http://www.ag.ch/strassenverkehrsamt/de/pub/
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New info I found, a FAQ on the Federal Customs Administration page, I think might interest other people as well and I think it covers my case:

http://www.ezv.admin.ch/zollinfo_pri...x.html?lang=en

I guess this should solve my situation...
You have found the correct office for your kanton and they, however you do have a period of grace that means you don't have to register the car for 12 months. So as long as the car is declared on your initial customs for using your 2nd link you should be fine.
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Old 07.11.2010, 12:49
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Your best bet is to register the car in the US with DMV to get the plates, then drive with the US plates for 1-year including from Belgium to CH.
Not an option for me - I am not a US citizen or resident.

However, I did the registration procedure once already (US-made Mercedes ML500). The test in Lausanne SAN was funny - they sent me back to the dealership to check the thickness of the brake discs! (had to change the front ones), but did not say a word about the lights with Chinese after-market HID (xenon) lamps and no washers (heavy violation for the northern cantons).

MLs have a good feature - you can change the speedo gauge from miles to kms with a button. Custom cleared duty-free (when moved in), drove for 2 years, sold for the initial buy price.

With a CLK, I am looking forward to see what SAN would say about the speedo in miles + digital speedo in kms. Its factory Xenon projector headlights (self-levering, with washers) shall be fine.
CLK is made in Germany after all, not a crappy ML made in Alabama (even the paint starts to fade in 3 years).

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Re: [Import] Bring car to Switzerland?

Hi:

I just shipped my car to the US, I paid $2750, from Michigan to basel. The car will arrive in germany, then they will load it on a truck and bring it to basel. So This is an option if you dont want to bother with going to Germany, or the NL.

You dont pay anything on the car interms of taxes/duties within the first 2 years.
In terms of cost, Never, will you be able to buy a car in Switzerland or even germany for what you pay for it in the US. I looked for over 1 year, and the only affordable cars, are stationwagens with lots of miles on it. You can sell your car here as long as you stay for more than one year, but may depend on your visa type and work contract.

You have to consider whether spending shipping it 2X cost outways buying a car again in the US once you go back. But remeber you have to have the car assessed by Swiss agency to ensure it meets their standard ( another Rip off). but if you can find a mechanic in Germany it is 1/3 the cost. one thing is the speadometer has to read in KM and not miles, the rear lights, make sure you have good tires on , etc....

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don't bother with posts here, most people here dont know what they are talking about.

Nice attitude
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Nice attitude
I was talking about quite a unique specific case, but as we are generalising, most people who dispense advice here talk out of their a**.
Yes, look at the links and agencies they post about. But find the info for yourself by contacting the experts.

For every “fact” posted here, you’ll find another one that contradicts it, even the most simple and mundane things are made overly complex.
This forum is as much a hindrance as a help when it comes to real good advice.
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Re: [Import] Bring car to Switzerland?

Hi all again.

As some suggested, I have sent a mail to zentrale.ozd-fahrzeuge@ezv.admin.ch in order to clarify the situation with regards to the use of my car in Switzerland and so on.
This is the original mail I sent them:

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I'm from Croatia and in about a month I am supposed to start working as a PhD student at a research institute in Switzerland. I have been getting ready for the move and my plan was to come via car in order to bring some personal household effects with me as I move to Switzerland. I have been reading the Federal Customs Administration web site with regards to this and I have some additional questions which I was hoping you could help me with.

1) My plan was, as I mentioned, to do the move with a car. I have also been planning to have the car with me for about one month while I settle in, at which point I would return it to Croatia. Will I have to declare the car for import as houshold effect as well or not (taking into consideration I will be taking it back to Croatia soon)?

2) In case I do have to declare the car for import as household effect, as per the special case of vehicles imported for the personal use of foreign workers and foreign students (as mentioned in the factsheet 15.50), there is a particular situation that I would like to check with you. The car that I'm using (and that I have been using for the past few years) is not registered in my name, but in the name of our small family firm owned by my father. I an NOT an employee of said firm, and I have permission to use the car for personal use within the borders of Croatia as well as abroad without any restrictions. I have read the FAQ on this page:

http://www.ezv.admin.ch/zollinfo_pri...x.html?lang=en

and from what I understand I need to provide a declaration from the firm stating which person(s), from when and for what reason are allowed to use the car. Could you confirm that? The other documents I have to provide are residence permit or equivalent proof (like contract of employment or tenancy agreement in case the permit has still not been issued), vehicle registration document and a copy of the passport, correct?

3) If there are some other particular procedures to observe I would be grateful if you could let me know.


I hope you'll be able to help me with regards to these questions. I would like to thank you very much for your help.

Best regards,

Goran
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Find underneath my additional information to your questions.

1.) A car which is used in Switzerland temporarily (less than one year) to bring with your personal and household effects, mustn't be announced at the border.

2.) If you want to use the car for more than one year, a customs permission 15.30 is necessary. In the case that the car doesn't belongs to you, an authorization of the car's holder would be reccommended. Other necessary documents are the ones that you mentionned.

3.) Nothing to add which concerns customs clearance of your car.

Kind regards

Xxxxx Yyyyyy (I've anonimized the name of the the customs agent that sent the reply, in case there are some privacy laws in CH with regards to police and customs employees)
Zollexperte

Eidgenössisches Finanzdepartement EFD
Eidgenössische Zollverwaltung EZV
Oberzolldirektion
Sektion Fahrzeuge und Strassenverkehrsabgaben
So, his reply is somewhat of a surprise for me, I had already come to terms with the fact that I would have to declare it anyway, even if I was bringing it for a month or two. I guess I'll do it this way then. But just to be safe, I'll bring the rest of the documentation and the authorization of the car's holder, you never know with the Law.

Also, these answers might interest people on this forum who were wandering if it was possible to borrow someone's car from abroad to use in Switzerland for a limited amount of time (a few months). The way the response is worded seems to point that it might be a possibility. But checking with the Customs Authority first would be the correct way. In any case if you got a question about it you can write to them, doesn't hurt as you can see.
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Re: [Import] Bring car to Switzerland?

I'm confused by all of this. I have emailed the canton, so hope to get some info soon...my story...

Moving from California to Basel
Want to ship a Mercedes and a Honda
Both have been owned for more than 1 year

Do I have to pay duty and VAT?
Can I drive with US plates for up to 1 year?

Buying a new car in Basel...even leasing seems outrageous. 1300chf per month to lease a VW tourareg for example! For 1300/month I could lease an AMG SUV in the US!

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Hi:

I just shipped my car to the US, I paid $2750, from Michigan to basel. The car will arrive in germany, then they will load it on a truck and bring it to basel. So This is an option if you dont want to bother with going to Germany, or the NL.

You dont pay anything on the car interms of taxes/duties within the first 2 years.
In terms of cost, Never, will you be able to buy a car in Switzerland or even germany for what you pay for it in the US. I looked for over 1 year, and the only affordable cars, are stationwagens with lots of miles on it. You can sell your car here as long as you stay for more than one year, but may depend on your visa type and work contract.

You have to consider whether spending shipping it 2X cost outways buying a car again in the US once you go back. But remeber you have to have the car assessed by Swiss agency to ensure it meets their standard ( another Rip off). but if you can find a mechanic in Germany it is 1/3 the cost. one thing is the speadometer has to read in KM and not miles, the rear lights, make sure you have good tires on , etc....

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Old 19.11.2010, 08:09
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I'm confused by all of this. I have emailed the canton, so hope to get some info soon...my story...
You might be better off emailing customs .

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Moving from California to Basel
Want to ship a Mercedes and a Honda
Both have been owned for more than 1 year

Do I have to pay duty and VAT?
No.

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Can I drive with US plates for up to 1 year?
1. Yes, as long as you can find an insurer.
2. Be prepared to be stopped a lot. Police will suspect you haven't managed 1.

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Buying a new car in Basel...even leasing seems outrageous. 1300chf per month to lease a VW tourareg for example! For 1300/month I could lease an AMG SUV in the US!
Actually I find leasing ridiculously cheap - around 2% with Nissan for example. Of course, the fact that cars are mindblowingly expensive here has a direct effect on what you pay for a lease.
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Old 19.11.2010, 11:37
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Be prepared to be stopped a lot. Police will suspect you haven't managed.
I had a completely different experience - in a full year on NJ plates, was stopped only once for a brief docs check.
Added benefit - for a year, you can relax about tickets from speed cameras and parking, reasonably, of course.

However, you would need to fully pay your lease in US - they will not let you export it with any lien existing on the car.

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Added benefit - for a year, you can relax about tickets from speed cameras and parking, reasonably, of course.
I emerged from an expat convention (of all things) to find a gaggle of cops standing around my car. Turned out my wife had blown through a few speeding cameras and the police had no way to contact us with foreign plates.

The police keep a list of license plates with unpaid fines and may very well take interest in your foreign plate to run a check. CHF 600 later, I was leaving the police station slightly embarrassed and with a much lighter wallet. Suffice it to say that my wife has not incurred any more speeding tickets!
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I emerged from an expat convention (of all things) to find a gaggle of cops standing around my car. Turned out my wife had blown through a few speeding cameras and the police had no way to contact us with foreign plates.

The police keep a list of license plates with unpaid fines and may very well take interest in your foreign plate to run a check. CHF 600 later, I was leaving the police station slightly embarrassed and with a much lighter wallet. Suffice it to say that my wife has not incurred any more speeding tickets!

You beat me to it - similar experience except when changing bike plates for Swiss ones it was a case could you wait here a few mins - few mins being the time for the police to turn up and then it was "now then sir, about this red light incident, that will be 250 CHF please."

You wouldn't think they'd bother..... but they do .
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Re: [Import] Bring car to Switzerland?

Car is paid off, so no problem there. A colleague is in Basel City and is leasing a car - 6000chf for 6 months, which includes insurance. I have a quote for US$2700 to ship from California to Basel, which means if I am in Switzerland for more than 6 months (which is the current plan) then it pays for itself.

The next question though....are the roads salted in the winter? No rust protection on my cars!

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I had a completely different experience - in a full year on NJ plates, was stopped only once for a brief docs check.
Added benefit - for a year, you can relax about tickets from speed cameras and parking, reasonably, of course.

However, you would need to fully pay your lease in US - they will not let you export it with any lien existing on the car.
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The next question though....are the roads salted in the winter?
Yes. That's one of the reasons the Swiss are for ever having to put their bridges back together. Reinforced concrete, water, freeze, thaw, salt, freeze, thaw, salt, rain, snow, freeze, salt = bad news for bridges.

At the end of the winter, our garage floor looks like a salt-mine! Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings again...
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Modern cars are far more rust resistant than cars of yesterday. I wouldn't worry unless you plan on keeping it for a long time.
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Re: [Import] Bring car to Switzerland?

Hi all,

I know this thread is 9 pages long, and I've read the lot. I have some specific things I'd like to nail down before I set off (arriving in CH on the 23rd Nov).

I'll be importing the usual personal effects, including a motorbike but I have queries around my car, which - for practical reasons I don't need to go into - I'll import a few months later (yes, I know I have to declare it with the rest of the effects):

- It's a Renault Espace from the French market; has anyone had experience of importing one of these, and what modifications were required?

- It's a 2nd hand French registered car (I'll be the 3rd owner), bought in britain for a bargain. Anyone see any issues with that? Normally in the UK, I'd use my V5 to demonstrate age and length of ownership; what document(s) will I need for a french car?

- If a car is 2nd hand, is the VAT not already paid for? I suspect I'll be charged VAT again...

- I'm not clear from the thread about how value is calculated; can I simply provide my UK purchase receipt as confirmation of the value, or do they want to do their own estimations?
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