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Re: Driver's Licence conversion

Hi... slightly OT but hopefully not too much:

anyone has any suggestion about ophtalmologists in Zurich (possibly Oerlikon or nearby) who can speak English (ok, ok, if they are italian-speaking it might be good enough ) and have a reasonable opening time (i.e. till late afternoon or on Saturdays)?

I need to convert my driving licence and thought of having an eye check-up at the same time.
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Old 20.06.2006, 12:12
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Re: Driver's Licence conversion

devcat, the process for sight-test is dead easy - any opticians store will be geared to do it for about 10 francs....
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devcat, the process for sight-test is dead easy - any opticians store will be geared to do it for about 10 francs....
Hi Lob. Yes I know I could go to any optician, but since my last proper eye-check-up has been about 8 years ago I would like to have a proper visit as well as the sight-test.
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Old 20.06.2006, 13:32
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Re: Driver's Licence conversion

my missus uses visulens.ch who speak English in town and have a place in Oerlikon...
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Old 20.06.2006, 16:01
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devcat, the process for sight-test is dead easy - any opticians store will be geared to do it for about 10 francs....
And the ironic part is you are only tested once, you could suffer eyesight problems in 30 years and never be retested for your driving licence. That's logical huh?

To the poster who said that their US licence has expired - I'm not surprised that it won't be accepted in this case. Given the joys of getting a Swiss licence the hard way you might actually find it is a lot easier to go back to the US, get the licence renewed and then come back to change it!

Someone was asking about an english-speaking driving instructor - I believe that this would be Syshack, and he has posted earlier on this thread.
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Re: Driver's Licence conversion

Hi Saiki,

Thanks for the links. I tried the cooldriving, and well, let's just say I didn't do that well. Is there any way I can obtain a traffic rules guidebook/handbook? I'd like to read through the road signs as I find Switzerland has the weirdest, confusing and complicated traffic regulations.

A quick question. Say when you're on the road, intending to turn left. There are 2 lanes going on the direction I want to head to, however, there's only a sign with an arrow indication to the second turning lane (the outer right one), but now on the first turning lane. Does that mean I can only turn to the second lane?
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Re: Driver's Licence conversion

If you think you need a full eye-test, then go to an Opthomologist, they'll also do the road test if you ask beforehand. It will cost 100CHF or so, but you'll get most of it back from your medical Insurance
For the rule-book (with pictures)! Ask at the cabbage-speakers equivilent of the Bureau des Autos, or even your/your neighbours kids. We've got several copies as they were given new ones every time the local rozzers came to school to give the "Road Safety" talk.
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Re: Driver's Licence conversion

Been there, done that.

Quick eye test, about 10 Chf. Than did a control test, about 20 min, pretty easy, only thing the examiner said "Because your car is dark color, I would suggest you always have your lights on, even during the day", I justed twisted my ahead around like that girl from the Exorcist and asked "Whatever ... now gimme my driving liscence!" We did speak english btw, and somehow I used that tactic "bore him to death with some cheap bla bla bla" slow him down, so that wouldn't t pay any attention to all the errors I was making, and rather get very desperate to step out of the car

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PROPER eye-test, 100CHF plus. Hope I never meet you on a dark night on a road.
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Re: Driver's Licence conversion

Hi Kay,

can u tell me where you did your eye test? CHF10 sounds like a real affordable price (especially in Zurich. I have a phobia for prices here now!). Thanks

Did you use your own car when you took the test? Where did the examiner take you to? I am not exactly familiar with roads here except for the few routes i use everyday.

Also, do you know where I can get a traffic handbook?
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Old 26.06.2006, 11:35
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Re: Driver's Licence conversion

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PROPER eye-test, 100CHF plus. Hope I never meet you on a dark night on a road.
I'm not quite sure why a "proper" eye test should cost 100 francs. A few years ago I had to do my driver's license conversion. The test was ridiculously comprehensive, took about 10 minutes (the guy ran the test very fast) and when it came time for payment he simply said "Have a nice weekend" (optomotrist in Küsnacht).

A couple of months ago I went to Fieldmann in Bahnhofstrasse to be tested to see if I needed glasses. The test was also comprehensive and involved several machines. It cost CHF25.

I'm not sure if by proper eye test you are referring to something which goes far beyond such tests, but I would argue that a very basic eye test is needed for driving. In fact, in Australia, tests are administered in the office of the roads and traffic authority by simply asking the applicant to read the bottom line of a standard eye test chart. It's quick, simple, cheap and effective - and must be done each time the licence is renewed (every 3 -5 years). In comparison the Swiss system forces you to go somewhere else, spend more money on a test which is far more detailed than is necessary and then it NEVER repeated, since the licence has unlimited validity! Almost everybody's eyesight will deteriorate with age, but this will never be checked by the authorities...
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Re: Driver's Licence conversion

Mark, when was the last time u had it check? CHF25 sounds very reasonable for bahnhofstrasse. I might as well just go there, way easier to locate.

Ya, I used to have US driver's license, and it's totally free. I could do my theory test, eye check, driving test and obtained my driver's license all on the spot!! How convenient. And should I fail, I could retake immediately, provided there's an examiner available. I am just so frustrated bout the way how Swiss likes to inconvenient people...arrggghhhh...

My husband just found out that he can renew his US driver's license by mail if it's within 1 year, so he's going to that and ditch me to take the driving test all by myself!!


Anyway, again, do you happen to know where i can get the traffic handbook besides from the transportation office itself?
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Old 26.06.2006, 11:55
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Mark, when was the last time u had it check? CHF25 sounds very reasonable for bahnhofstrasse. I might as well just go there, way easier to locate.
Ummm, I already stated quite clearly when I had this test in my message - "a couple of months ago"

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Anyway, again, do you happen to know where i can get the traffic handbook besides from the transportation office itself?
This was also answered in a previous post, though you may not have understood the original poster's rather obscure reference - "Ask at the cabbage-speakers equivilent of the Bureau des Autos". What she meant was go and visit the Strassenverkehrsamt and ask them for a copy - I'm sure they have a copy in English. Chances are you have already been there.

You should have no problems walking into any optomotrist and saying "There's nothing wrong with my eyesight, I just need the stamp for the driving licence, how much would an eyesight test cost?" They will tell you and you can decide whether this is ok or not.
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Re: Driver's Licence conversion

On 20:06:06 Devcat asked for information about having a proper eye-test.
This is what I’m replying to.
He needs to book an appointment with an Ophthalmologist (listed under “Doctors” in the ‘phone book), mentioning that he’d like both a check-up and road-sight test done.
He should get the full works, and the doctor will also spot if there are any under-lying problems, tunnel vision, Glaucoma, Diabetes etc.
Most of this is refunded by the Insurance, so the road part will cost about ten francs. Exactly the same as thirty years ago.
A walk-in Opticians, such as Fielmann or Optic 2000 are only trained in optometry (haven’t you noticed how young they all are)? And if they do spot a problem they’ll send you off to an Ophthalmologist.
None of their services are re-claimable, except a portion of the glasses/lenses prescribed.
The TCS is talking with Parliament about a new law on Driving, age etc. So by the time most of us reach retirement age there will be not only a new sight-test required, but also an ability-test!
Why can’t I use a French term now and again, you lot are constantly bunging in German ones?
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Old 26.06.2006, 13:42
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Re: Driver's Licence conversion

Hi Anjela,

I used a German term in this case because the poster was in Zurich, and mostly likely new to Zurich as well. Terms like cabbage eaters probably don't help much in this case, that's all. Apart from that you are of course welcome to post as many French terms as you want.

I'm still puzzled by a few things in your post. You make allusions to the fact that because someone looks young they might not be well trained. This is unfortunately a sad misconception that lingers in this country. For the record, my test was done by a very old man, however his age did not enter into my mind at all as he was doing the test.

Anyway, there has been some confusion in this thread - there were two people asking for similiar information, so you point out that you were replying to devcat. However, in post #27 you appeared to answer both of them in the same both, with no quoting or mentioning who you were addressing - hence the confusion.

So I understand that devcat wants a complex test (CHF100), so for the record I just wanted to re-iterate that not everybody will want a complex test, and that it is not required for the driving licence (simply test will do).

I know this is obvious, and a misunderstanding was not your intention. It's just that when you read the second half of this thread it starts to get a little confusing for people who jump into this conversation later.

To all posters - once the questions in a thread start to diverge slightly please quote replies as appropriate to minimise confusion.

I welcome the fact that TCS are trying to do something about the situation, but thanks to the slow turning wheels in this country we will probably be the first batch to be affected - when we reach retirement age - as you point out!
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Re: Driver's Licence conversion

[quote=mark]Ummm, I already stated quite clearly when I had this test in my message - "a couple of months ago"

Oops, apology. Must have overlooked that part.

ok, get it now. still new to switzerland, hence not familiar with a lot of local terms yet.

Thanks a bunch people! You are of such great help!
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I’m sorry if you think that I “made allusion“ to the fact that someone being young looking meant that they were under-trained, what I meant was that a doctor has spent many years training in his specialty, whereas it is possible to become an optician relatively quickly, at any age, although they mostly seem very young to me.
Any ageist remarks were made against myself if anyone, as I’m clearly a lot older than most of you. Actually, I could take offense at your allusion that I was being offensive!.
I would have thought it was clear that I was answering Devcat #23 about the eye test and An Luan #26 about the handbook to anyone bothering to read the previous couple of posts. It was only the next posting (#27), Sigh.
The Swiss-french around here often refer to “cabbage-eaters”, but if you don’t like it, I’ll not use it again. I’ve never come across Swissies before though; it seems to be an expression used mainly by foreigners about the Swiss and as such is also rather offensive.
Referring to Mark, Post #35.
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Old 27.06.2006, 12:15
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Re: Driver's Licence conversion

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PROPER eye-test, 100CHF plus. Hope I never meet you on a dark night on a road.
When I converted my licence I went to the Optom at a dispenser. My vision was tested for accuracy in both eyes,field-of-vision as well as stereoscopic vision. No Ishihara test but most traffic lights here have aqua aspects installed so that is no major concern for people who are colour-blind.

Unfortunately most accidents here are the result of people with excellent eyesight, but lacking in skills, common sense or patience.
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Re: Driver's Licence conversion

FHS. Devcat #23 asked about a proper/full eye sight test, presumably to check if he needed glasses; as well as the more basic one required for converting a driving-licence. I'm simply trying to point out that if he goes to a fully qualified Opthalmologist as opposed to a high-street Optician, he can claim against his medical insurance for the cost of the tests. If he has a full test done at the Opticians, he can't.
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FHS. Devcat #23 asked about a proper/full eye sight test, presumably to check if he needed glasses; as well as the more basic one required for converting a driving-licence. I'm simply trying to point out that if he goes to a fully qualified Opthalmologist as opposed to a high-street Optician, he can claim against his medical insurance for the cost of the tests. If he has a full test done at the Opticians, he can't.
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Anjela, please use the quote button (as I said earlier), everyone will thank you for it and your posts will become much easier to read. Just press the "Quote" button and you will see exactly how it works. If you need further help use the FAQ system which explains the use of the forum in a bit more detail.
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