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If you don't intend to ever drive in CH, you don't ever need to convert it. 5 years is the time limit for conversion, if you wish to later you will need to do a driving test.

Unless you are still living in the UK, you can't renew you UK one either.
What's the source for the 5 years? I know someone who is still driving on a UK licence 13 years after coming to CH, and just discovered that the photo on the UK one has expired, so she sort of doesn't have any licence at all.

Any ideas on what should happen next?
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helllooo there,

I am in Switzerland for almost one year (next month will be one year). Lucky my colleague pointed out for the conversion of the license and i went to the Strassenverkerhsamt to exchange my license last week. However, the officer told me that i need to pass the practical test for the conversion.

I’ve the problem as i have not been driving for almost 3 years and i really need to take the driving lesson. Could anyone recommends the english speaking driving school for me? I do speak basic German and I live in Zurich.

Your recommendation is very much appreciated.

Thank you very much in advance,
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I recently switched mine over a few months past the one year threshold, although that wasn't mentioned at all... I had an Australian NSW provisional license (P1, but I had renewed it a few times and was past the year threshold before Switzerland of having gotten it). Which did cause some headaches. Originally I got a letter stating that it was considered equivalent to the learners, and that it wouldn't be legal to drive on at all in Switzerland. Upon me asking a few more questions (because it implied it would never be legal to drive on in Switzerland), they contacted the national agency, and received clarification that the Australian provisional licenses are valid to exchange. So anybody from Australia with one, you may need to mention this and ask them to check with the national body. The issue at a guess, seems to be that the UK calls a learners a provisional license, and this causes confusion. (For any non-Aussie, the Australian provisional is the first license you get after taking the practical driving test, and enables you to drive by yourself.)
Good point, CH now has a similar regime, in German Führerausweis auf Probe for the first three years after passing the test.
Auf probe would be the magic words.

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helllooo there,

I am in Switzerland for almost one year (next month will be one year). Lucky my colleague pointed out for the conversion of the license and i went to the Strassenverkerhsamt to exchange my license last week. However, the officer told me that i need to pass the practical test for the conversion.

I’ve the problem as i have not been driving for almost 3 years and i really need to take the driving lesson. Could anyone recommends the english speaking driving school for me? I do speak basic German and I live in Zurich.

Your recommendation is very much appreciated.

Thank you very much in advance,
Jasmine
Perhaps after one year you've assimilated enough of the local language to to a google search in your local area for driving instructors who provide lessons in English?

One somewhat English speaking guy I know is Charly Fahrschule in seebachstrasse Charly.ch if I'm not mistaken. Most locals speak some English, amongst other languages, but you're here almost a year already, so you know this.

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As explained in the thread, it's a very simple process.

They will take your UK license, but what they do with it is a mystery. The rumour is they return it to the issuing authority.
However, I return to the UK on a regular basis, and I have unfortunately been caught, on camera.
As i now have a Swiss license and declared that, I have just paid the fine and originally not incurred any points.
But on the last occasion, I was told that they don't hold my original license and have no record of it being handed in by the Swiss, I will incur points that will stand for the 3 year period. I found this rather disappointing.

As 35mm said, on your return to the UK, you just excahnge your Swiss license for a UK one.
I think it is an abuse of power; documents (at least in Italy) are state owned, and I doubt that a foreign nation may seize such documents and keep them for himself.
It would appropriation of property of a sovereign state.
Do you know if people who already have the obligation of lenses on their license must take the eyes test for the Swiss driving license?
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Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions

Hello.

A different question.

I was never driving a car in my life. Almost. My driving experience is around 10 minutes or so (and I'm 34 now), and by the time my family got a car, I was already at such an age, where I tried to avoid spending time with my parent, so I have not got that exposure to traffic, etc. Now I'm coming to go for driving and I desperately need it. The problem (for me) is with theory. I got this "driving today book", read it (despite it's just a enumeration of rules) and tried to go through question in iTheory app on iPad (great app, can really recommend it for those who need to go through virtual driving theory tests). I went through questions and made correct only about 30%, not more (taking into account some of my random answers). Here comes the question: is there a driving school that does some kind of "intro" into driving theory. May be a private tutor that does it? Nay other recomendations?
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Do you know if people who already have the obligation of lenses on their license must take the eyes test for the Swiss driving license?
Yes. They must take it with their normal glasses or lenses.
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Hi All,

I just wanted an update on the current process as I know some information has already been provided in earlier posts.

I currently hold a UK driving licence and although do not own a car here, would like to convert it to a swiss one for when you want to rent a car or use mobility.

Before doing so, I have the following questions:

1) I been in switzerland longer than one year - will I need to do a test?
2) I know it has been said by some that they send your driving licence back to the UK however is this definately known?
3) We travel back to the UK every two months and would want to be able to drive there when we do. I know alot of insurance companies do not provide cover for foreign residents and for the few that do, can be very expensive. Does anyone know of any companies that are reasonable? Even if I choose not to convert to the swiss licence and keep the UK one, I will still need an insurance policy that covers me as a foreign resident.


Thanks for your help.
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1. Yes. You should have done it within a year.
2. Yes
3. Yes, I rented a car at Heathrow with a Swiss drivers licence no problem. SIXT as I recall

As an aside, your UK licence may allow you to drive small 4 wheeler lorries. You can pay extra to have that on your Swiss. but it is probably not necessary

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Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions

Thanks Pasty.

Just to clarify though, I have access to a car in the UK and therefore would need recommendations for an insurance company and not a rental company.

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2. Yes
3. Yes, I rented a car at Heathrow with a Swiss drivers licence no problem. SIXT as I recall

As an aside, your UK licence may allow you to drive small 4 wheeler lorries. You can pay extra to have that on your Swiss. but it is probably not necessary
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Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions

If you are still using your UK licence, the only issue I could perceive, is that the police pick you up for not having changed your address, but I can't see why it should affect you getting insurance. Why not ask your existing/previous UK insurance company? They will also have your no claims history.

If you switch to a Swiss, I'd google round a few of the better known UK insurers and get a quote.
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Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions

My previous UK insurance company didn't insure foreign residents hence why I am asking for any recommendations as I am not insured on any pocliy yet as I don't own a car over there. However, when we go back I can have access to a car once I get an insurance policy on it.


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If you are still using your UK licence, the only issue I could perceive, is that the police pick you up for not having changed your address, but I can't see why it should affect you getting insurance. Why not ask your existing/previous UK insurance company? They will also have your no claims history.

If you switch to a Swiss, I'd google round a few of the better known UK insurers and get a quote.
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1. Yes. You should have done it within a year.
Bollocks. People keep saying this, and it remains bollocks.

After one year you can no longer use a UK licence to drive in Switzerland. I believe the default (Federal) law is that you have 5 years to exchange it for a Swiss one without requiring a retest.

Basel Stadt says 3 years.
http://www.mfk.bs.ch/fuehrerausweise...laendisch.html

"Wird der ausländische Führerausweis später als drei Jahre seit Einreise in die Schweiz umgetauscht, so kann - unabhängig der Kategorien - ebenfalls eine Kontrollfahrt verlangt werden, auch wenn der Ausweis aus einem EU-, EFTA- oder einem anderen Staat ausgestellt worden ist, dessen Ausweise aufgrund der Länderliste ohne Kontrollfahrt umgetauscht werden."
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I read it somewhere that for the conversion your licence need to be at least one year old.I am not sure where i read it but look at the website or just go to local Motofährkontrolle and they will help you.
you just replied to a question from August 2012. I think Srivas might have found out the answer by now...... (which is probably more than just a control test if I'm honest)
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Bollocks. People keep saying this, and it remains bollocks.

After one year you can no longer use a UK licence to drive in Switzerland. I believe the default (Federal) law is that you have 5 years to exchange it for a Swiss one without requiring a retest.

Basel Stadt says 3 years.
According to "Behandlung der Motorfahrzeuge und Motorfahrzeugführer aus dem Ausland" from the ASA it should be 5 years. Be aware, this info is hearsay as I am not willing to pay CHF 8. But if someone faces this problem this 8 Stutz may be well spent.

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Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions

There's a copy here:
http://www.ocn.ch/ocn/files/pdf30/2....dingungen1.pdf

But it contracts BS's version which states 3 years. I\m curious as I've been here over 4 years and although I've never needed to drive was wondering whether to bother converting my licence over. As the only cost of failure is the eye test and my time in arguing (in English - I guess it won't take long) with the people in the office, I may give it a go. If it stops raining. If I can be bothered. However, what I can say with certainty is that there is no 12 month limit on conversion, unless you actually want to drive here.
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1) I been in switzerland longer than one year - will I need to do a test?
2) I know it has been said by some that they send your driving licence back to the UK however is this definately known?
3) We travel back to the UK every two months and would want to be able to drive there when we do. I know alot of insurance companies do not provide cover for foreign residents and for the few that do, can be very expensive. Does anyone know of any companies that are reasonable? Even if I choose not to convert to the swiss licence and keep the UK one, I will still need an insurance policy that covers me as a foreign resident.
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1. Yes. You should have done it within a year.
2. Yes
3. Yes, I rented a car at Heathrow with a Swiss drivers licence no problem. SIXT as I recall

As an aside, your UK licence may allow you to drive small 4 wheeler lorries. You can pay extra to have that on your Swiss. but it is probably not necessary
1. Wrong. As has been discussed here ad nauseum, your licence is not valid to use after a year here, but it ca still be converted with no problem for at least five years.
2. They may not physically send it back, but it is certainly cancelled at DVLA.
3. (not sure where the idea of rental cars came from) you won't legally be able to claim that you have both Swiss and UK residency and have cars registered and insured in both places.
Aside: There's no extra charge to retain the light good vehicle classification that you get on conversion of a UK licence, but you will need to do a medical if you want it. Most people don't bother. It's for vehicles over 3 tons, so it's unlikely you'd ever need it.
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Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions

Thanks. Yeah the idea is not for me to claim both but to either hold a swiss licence or a UK one. Regardless of which I hold, I will still need to get an insurance policy that covers me as a foreign resident if i want to be able to drive in the UK (not a rental one of course!).


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1. Wrong. As has been discussed here ad nauseum, your licence is not valid to use after a year here, but it ca still be converted with no problem for at least five years.
2. They may not physically send it back, but it is certainly cancelled at DVLA.
3. (not sure where the idea of rental cars came from) you won't legally be able to claim that you have both Swiss and UK residency and have cars registered and insured in both places.
Aside: There's no extra charge to retain the light good vehicle classification that you get on conversion of a UK licence, but you will need to do a medical if you want it. Most people don't bother. It's for vehicles over 3 tons, so it's unlikely you'd ever need it.
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Thanks. Yeah the idea is not for me to claim both but to either hold a swiss licence or a UK one. Regardless of which I hold, I will still need to get an insurance policy that covers me as a foreign resident if i want to be able to drive in the UK (not a rental one of course!).
Under UK law, there is NO possibility of driving a UK registered car when you are registered as living in Switzerland. The ONLY exception is to drive a UK hired car in the UK. You will not find such an insurance policy in the UK. You can of course lie, but then you would be uninsured. http://www.biba.org.uk/

The same applies here. When you are registered as living here you are NOT allowed to drive foreign registered cars here, only foreign rental cars, provided you declared the car when you crossed the border into Switzerland.
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Hi All,

I just wanted an update on the current process as I know some information has already been provided in earlier posts.

I currently hold a UK driving licence and although do not own a car here, would like to convert it to a Swiss one for when you want to rent a car or use mobility.
Before doing so, I have the following questions:

1) I been in Switzerland longer than one year - will I need to do a test?
You are not allowed now to drive here until you exchange your license, which you can do without a test, for up to 5 years.
After that you will need a new full Swiss driving test.


2) I know it has been said by some that they send your driving license back to the UK however is this definitely known? It is definitely known

3) We travel back to the UK every two months and would want to be able to drive there when we do. I know a lot of insurance companies do not provide cover for foreign residents and for the few that do, can be very expensive Do you have an example please?
Norman Frizell, the biggest UK insurance broker, states this is not possible.
We would all like to drive our parent's car in the UK!

4) Does anyone know of any companies that are reasonable? There are none. Even if I choose not to convert to the Swiss license and keep the UK one, I will still need an insurance policy that covers me as a foreign resident. No, you will never be allowed to drive a private UK car while you live here! Could you possibly keep a Swiss car temporarily in the UK?
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Bollocks. People keep saying this, and it remains bollocks.

After one year you can no longer use a UK licence to drive in Switzerland. I believe the default (Federal) law is that you have 5 years to exchange it for a Swiss one without requiring a retest.

Basel Stadt says 3 years.
http://www.mfk.bs.ch/fuehrerausweise...laendisch.html

"Wird der ausländische Führerausweis später als drei Jahre seit Einreise in die Schweiz umgetauscht, so kann - unabhängig der Kategorien - ebenfalls eine Kontrollfahrt verlangt werden, auch wenn der Ausweis aus einem EU-, EFTA- oder einem anderen Staat ausgestellt worden ist, dessen Ausweise aufgrund der Länderliste ohne Kontrollfahrt umgetauscht werden."
Perhaps that is the case in Basel, but Strassenverkehrsamt Zürich is clear http://www.stva.zh.ch/internet/siche...umschreib.html
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Wir empfehlen Ihnen das Gesuch frühzeitig einzureichen, da die Umtauschformalitäten in Einzelfällen längere Zeit in Anspruch nehmen kann. Nach Ablauf dieses Jahres darf der ausländische Führerausweis in der Schweiz nicht mehr verwendet werden.
Here's the Basel one. http://www.mfk.bs.ch/fuehrerausweise...laendisch.html
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Pretty much the same wording.

You can use it for a year from your arrival in Switzerland, and you can not use your foreign driving licence after that year.

Perhaps you'd like to tell them their web site is bollocks.
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