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Old 05.09.2009, 22:06
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REALLY dumb question about importing a car from the uk

I promise that I have used the search function, but I'm afraid that I'm too thick to understand some of the posts I've found there

We got our B permits in September 2007. We have kept a property in the UK which we hardly use these days. Parked there is a gorgeous, not very old Jaguar XKR which we thought we'd keep in the UK as a fun car to drive while we're there.

We now realise that we'd get much more pleasure out of the car here and want to import it.

We recognise that it's more than 12 months since we got our permits, but is there a way to import the car without paying crazy import taxes? I understand that we will have to pay to modify the car to Swiss standards (does 5K chuffs sound about right?) and that we'll still have a RHD car once we're done

I'm sorry but I'm confused about the import process for someone in our position. Can anyone help?
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Not worth it, sell it and buy something here
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Re: REALLY dumb question about importing a car from the uk

If you owned the car prior to March 2007 (6 months prior to Sept 2007), you shouldn't be hit with much, if any, import duties. We paid 29 CHF to import our car. No idea as to the costs of getting it roadworthy in Switzerland though. Talk to a Jaguar dealer.
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Re: REALLY dumb question about importing a car from the uk

I'm in the process of having my UK car registered over here.
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Not worth it, sell it and buy something here
Why do you say that? From what I can see the second hand prices in CH are pretty high
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Re: REALLY dumb question about importing a car from the uk

I agree with VaudBrit, the prices in UK are a lot lower than in CH.
I am also looking at buying a car in Germany, and importing it to Switzerland,
I have lived here for two years, what do I need to pay in taxes % to get it on swiss plates?
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Why do you say that? From what I can see the second hand prices in CH are pretty high
From what I can work out, there seems a real anti-UK import vibe in this forum.

If you have a car you want to take back to the UK or you can find (and there are plenty of deals out there) cheap LHD cars in the UK then it seems to make a lot of sense to import a car from the UK.
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We got our B permits in September 2007. We have kept a property in the UK which we hardly use these days. Parked there is a gorgeous, not very old Jaguar XKR which we thought we'd keep in the UK as a fun car to drive while we're there.

We now realise that we'd get much more pleasure out of the car here and want to import it.

We recognise that it's more than 12 months since we got our permits, but is there a way to import the car without paying crazy import taxes? I understand that we will have to pay to modify the car to Swiss standards (does 5K chuffs sound about right?) and that we'll still have a RHD car once we're done

I'm sorry but I'm confused about the import process for someone in our position. Can anyone help?
Out of interest, did you put this car on your Swiss Tax Return as an asset for wealth tax? If not, if you bring it in and then put it on your Swiss Tax Return next time, wouldn't you get caught out for non declaration of an asset before?
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Out of interest, did you put this car on your Swiss Tax Return as an asset for wealth tax? If not, if you bring it in and then put it on your Swiss Tax Return next time, wouldn't you get caught out for non declaration of an asset before?
We're on a forfait fiscal so not sure this is an issue for wealth tax
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From what I can work out, there seems a real anti-UK import vibe in this forum.

If you have a car you want to take back to the UK or you can find (and there are plenty of deals out there) cheap LHD cars in the UK then it seems to make a lot of sense to import a car from the UK.
Sure -- a high value LHD car makes lots of sense.

A RHD 2002 Ford Mondeo, not so much, due to compliance costs.
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Sure -- a high value LHD car makes lots of sense.

A RHD 2002 Ford Mondeo, not so much, due to compliance costs.
Indeed. We are looking to import a LHD X5 or Range Rover from the UK. Provided we can sell the car on (I see no reason why we can't as German imports don't seem to go for significantly less than Swiss cars) then we will save around 25k CHF.
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And indeed I would go right ahead. Although if I were bringing in a BMW or Range Rover, I'd be selling it on pronto. (Personal bias, no offence intended!)
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And indeed I would go right ahead. Although if I were bringing in a BMW or Range Rover, I'd be selling it on pronto. (Personal bias, no offence intended!)
Ha :-)

What would you be buying instead then?
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A good ol' boring Mercedes or Audi ... at least you know they'll run forever! (A post-2005 Mercedes ML would be an appropriate substitute for the X5 or Range Rover.)
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Re: REALLY dumb question about importing a car from the uk

Everyone in Switzerland swears by Audis, BMWs, Porsches and Mercs... with the odd slightly well off going for the super car type, Ferrarri's, Lambo's and Aston Martins...

What happens if you just want a run about?!

To the original OP noone will tell you exactly what you need to do to import the car, you'll have to find out by going through the process yourself, and the people who know can't be bothered giving out all the details it seems...

All I can say is, Buy the car, Drive the Car, claim the UK VAT back somehow!, Pay the import taxes, work out how much it costs to comply with swiss laws, register the new motor, and the only slightly complicated one is getting the insurance... you probably need to get a UK one that covers you to drive it in Europe, then cancel and get a swiss insurance once it's fully registered and compliant with laws here...

Since your car is second hand, you only need to worry about driving here legally, then find a garage who can do the conversion for you, then just register it, you don't have to pay any taxes if it's over a certain amount of years old... but don't quote me on that...

It's a ballache basically and that's why most people would rather pay the extra 10 grand or whatever in swissies than import one from the UK and go through all the hassle...

good luck and will be interesting to see what you find out...

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I promise that I have used the search function, but I'm afraid that I'm too thick to understand some of the posts I've found there

We got our B permits in September 2007. We have kept a property in the UK which we hardly use these days. Parked there is a gorgeous, not very old Jaguar XKR which we thought we'd keep in the UK as a fun car to drive while we're there.

We now realise that we'd get much more pleasure out of the car here and want to import it.

We recognise that it's more than 12 months since we got our permits, but is there a way to import the car without paying crazy import taxes? I understand that we will have to pay to modify the car to Swiss standards (does 5K chuffs sound about right?) and that we'll still have a RHD car once we're done

I'm sorry but I'm confused about the import process for someone in our position. Can anyone help?

We just imported our car from the uk, as long as you can prove you owned the car for at least 6 months before you got here then you should be ok and not have to pay import duty, you'll need a reciept, bill of sale or somthing from the dealer to prove the purchase date, the log book etc and a certificate of conformity (available from the dealer), you'll also need an export certificate from your local tax office (an eu1 I think its called) otherwise the swiss *may* charge you for it being american, as they did with our MG!!! even tho all the paper work clearly states its a UK car, unless we could prove otherwise that'll be xxxx chf please, knowing the cost of getting the export cert would be more then they were asking for

Then the fun begins!! new headlights (hope yours arn't xenons!!) and emmissions & noise tests, along with an extended mot type going over, if you have any non standard parts on your car you'll need to remove them and put oem bits back on, your speedo has to have KM on it, and it has to be accurate (they are really stict on the speedo's!!)

In total the mg cost us around 5k to import, that was with us buying the headlights from ebay, paying the US car tax!!, getting all the paperwork (cert of conformity was £150 alone) then getting a garage to fit the lights, clean the car (it has to be swiss clean, so spotless engine bay, and spotless underneath) and do pre test checks and taking it to the test centre and arguning for a couple of hours that everything was in fact factory standard.

As soon as those swiss plates go on your RHD car it becomes worthless, you wont be able to sell it except to maybe a fellow expat.
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To the original OP noone will tell you exactly what you need to do to import the car, you'll have to find out by going through the process yourself, and the people who know can't be bothered giving out all the details it seems...
this is probably because there seems to be no standard, everyone who does it has a completely different story, I have spoken to people who had a very easy ride, didn't need this or that, had mods etc and flew through the test no problems at all, but I have also spoken to people who had a much harder time then we did having to change the cars ecu, getting various other documention directly from the manufacturer etc etc there seems to be no hard and fast way to do it.
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Re: REALLY dumb question about importing a car from the uk

I suspect the differences in experiences are related to:

whether car :
1 - imported as household goods
2 - owned at least six months prior to import
3 - is an "old timer"


and more importantly whether customs and SCN (registration & testing) offices have been asked for their advice before the event.

Customs will specify the above and then scn will give you a check list of things to do to make the car comply.

The check list of compliance items is fundamental to the ensuing experience - for example whether noise and emissions have to be complied with OR NOT (so very basic dramatic differences). Likewise constructors certificate of construction, or not.

Follow the process is the right advice and check with the authorities BEFORE each step and do it in very good time. There are deadlines (such as 18 months for import of household goods declarations), but they seem reasonable.

Switzerland in my experience so far is that one simply must ask the officials all along the way and they are helpful and patient, especially with my french.

Snippet: Trailers have to be metriculated too and get their own reg number.

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