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Old 23.04.2007, 16:34
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New biker here, needed advice for importing moto to CH

Well done guys, just read the last post and I'm really pleased to see there are other bikers other than me here.

Now I have a few questions. After a terrible year without putting my a** in a bike seat, I will finally come back to Italy for a month and put again on the street my Suzuki SV650S.

Since I will be coming in Zurich in June and have the whole May available in Italy as holiday to ride freely on pre-Alps and Alps, I was just wondering if it's worth to renew my italian insurance and then, once in Zurich, if this would be still valid.

I ask this because in Zurich I will be working and I will stay there for at least 1 year (but I wish I will like the place and stay there more time).

What's the common practice in there? What are the laws about importing vehicles?

Once in ZH should I register my bike and obtain a new plate or can I stick with my italian plate for a while? In case I will need to get a swiss plate, my italian insurance automatically will be declared invalid?

It would be interesting that I could keep the italian plate for at least -say- 6 months, so that I can get a short term insurance in Italy and then do everything in CH when this will expire.

Is there a way to avoid wasting money (around 350 euro) 1st on my italian insurance to have to re-insure the moto again once in CH with a swiss one?


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Old 23.04.2007, 17:18
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Re: New biker here, needed advice for importing moto to CH

Hey there,
I can't aswer all your questions, but when I imported my bike from Canada, it had to be tested at the garage(charged $$$), tested from the federal rules($$$), then the insurance, road taxes, vignette, and other items almost cost more than the bike.
If the bike is European, it may be easier, but still done on an intimely manner. (took me months before I could ride). Lights had to be rewired, exhaust certified, emissions tested, horse power tested and de-tuned for CH. plus a mud guard built to fit it, and a lot of phone calls and appointments. But once it is in, you are OK for life.
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Hey there,
I can't aswer all your questions, but when I imported my bike from Canada, it had to be tested at the garage(charged $$$), tested from the federal rules($$$), then the insurance, road taxes, vignette, and other items almost cost more than the bike.
If the bike is European, it may be easier, but still done on an intimely manner. (took me months before I could ride). Lights had to be rewired, exhaust certified, emissions tested, horse power tested and de-tuned for CH. plus a mud guard built to fit it, and a lot of phone calls and appointments. But once it is in, you are OK for life.
Are you joking or what?? Has the Swiss government all this time to waste on bike testing and also de-tuning?

My bike has actually an aftermarket exhaust system which makes a terrible sound, additionally I've put the DynoJet Powercommander to re-map the injection. I've also modified the front suspensions.

That means I will have to de-tune my bike??
I can put back the tap on the exhaust in order to get the noise back at an acceptable level, but all the other jobs will be impossible to be reverted back.

BTW, mine is EU.


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Old 23.04.2007, 19:50
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Are you joking or what??


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No joke....
this was in '99 though. My bike had 95HP in Canada, and here it should have 75HP. So a throttle stop added, and air filter doubled to choke it off. It passed the test, all the crap was removed, then a re-test was ordered to ensure it was still intact!!! -AHHHH!!! quick night of adding things on, then retested teh following day at 8am. (WTF???)
It had original California pipes on it, so very quiet, but still needed testing.
BTW, they don't have time, but for the money I was charged, it makes me realize why people have high salaries... the cost of living!!!
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No joke....
this was in '99 though. My bike had 95HP in Canada, and here it should have 75HP. So a throttle stop added, and air filter doubled to choke it off. It passed the test, all the crap was removed, then a re-test was ordered to ensure it was still intact!!! -AHHHH!!! quick night of adding things on, then retested teh following day at 8am. (WTF???)
It had original California pipes on it, so very quiet, but still needed testing.
BTW, they don't have time, but for the money I was charged, it makes me realize why people have high salaries... the cost of living!!!

Those are actually the modifies that I have in my SV:

- MIVV Central junction pipe to the exhaust (definitely more "open")
- MIVV exhaust w/ db-killer (omologated for noise emissions but NOT for CO2 since it's not catalytic)
- Air filter BMC sport
- Dynojet Powercommander III (to re-map the injection with the laptop)

Now, the real issue seems to be the exhaust. Without the catalytic converter it will never pass the CO2 emissions test. I've mailed MIVV (www.mivv.it) on how to get the exhaust euro2 compliant and they told me that due to the new european laws they are studying a new pipe junction system to allow the insertion of a catalytic converter and make it compliant to the CO2 emissions limits that all the EU countries have to enforce within 09/2007.

Now I've asked them more info about this and when this kit will become available but I suggest all of you to check if your bike is catalytic and if you have an aftermarket exhaust installed contact the manufacturer.

Damn they make our lives living hell...



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Non-catalytic motorbike exhaust

Hi guys, how many of you own a motorbike with an aftermarket exhaust?

Mine is just compliant for the noise emissions (it's provided with a db-killer) but for the gas emissions it's actually out of law. Unfortunately the SV650 has the catalytic converter directly inside the exhaust (and not in the junction pipe as some bikes like the R1 have) so that when you replace it with another you lose the Euro2 compliance (having your bike from now on as non-catalytic).

If I go to Switzerland and will submit my bike to the gas emissions test there will be some chances that I will pass it or all of us with aftermarket exhausts have to replace them with stock exhausts just for purpose of passing the test?

I don't think with the "tapped" exhaust will gain additional HP (usually you need it open and then remap the injection), my concerns are mostly just about emissions.


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Re: Non-catalytic motorbike exhaust

contact a Suzuki dealer in Ticino?
Basically any changes require a permission slip. Noise and emissions are bad.

Potentially back to standard for you - when you officially import the bike that is.

http://www.suzuki-motorcycles.ch/img...etwork_EUR.pdf
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