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Clearly the road is need of repair!
Actually, that is very good condition for a road in Italy!

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No, this was yesterday near Modena, the road is iced over.

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Winter tires work on ice? Dream on
They work better then nothing on ice!
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They work better then nothing on ice!
Still would not save those cars. Only studded tires would. :]
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Still would not save those cars. Only studded tires would. :]
If allowed!
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Re: All weather tires

What is the recommended month range for Winter Tires on a car? Dec-April?
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Re: All weather tires

Depends on where you live here. We usually change over to winters at the beginning of November and change back beginner of April, but that's just our choice. Higher up in the mountains you may need to do it a similar time or even earlier/later depending on the weather.
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Old 13.06.2019, 07:38
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What is the recommended month range for Winter Tires on a car? Dec-April?
"O to O" as the Swiss say (Oktober to Ostern (Easter))...
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Re: All weather tires

Depends on the weather. No date is universal. This year we had snow in May. I only changed to summer tires in late May because we were having zero degree morning and nights, plus the snow! I changed from summer to winter in early December 2018. Just take it as it comes, only you will know!
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We still have winter tires on three of our cars.

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Depends on the weather. No date is universal. This year we had snow in May. I only changed to summer tires in late May because we were having zero degree morning and nights, plus the snow! I changed from summer to winter in early December 2018. Just take it as it comes, only you will know!
Yeah, pretty much the same for us. We were on holiday until mid-April so didn't arrange to get them changed until the 6th May and that was cutting it fine since our last snowfall was on the 5th!
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Re: All weather tires

Dear folks, please stay on topic.

This thread is on all weather tires, can't be bothered with seasons.
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Well, necro'd thread anyway.
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Re: All weather tires

Posters are expected to use existing threads rather than start new ones.

That said, I'm somewhat surprised that the point-in-cheek in my post, after 70 posts on seasonal tyres, isn't obvious.
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Re: All weather tires

I am no tyre expert but my trusted mechanic told me that all season tyre compounds are much more advanced these days compared to 10 years ago. You should be OK if you have the "M+S" and "Three peak mountain +snow flake" on your All Season Tyre (both and not only M+S).

I started to use these last winter and had no issues or notice anything different to a winter tyre. I take extra consideration to the rain performance of a tyre and always select "A" or "B" rating. I live in a area with a few mountains and get a decent amount of snow in winter.

P.S. I am no boy racer, drive according to the speed limits and take extra precaution whenever the road conditions change to worse

+ checking your tyre pressure at least once every two weeks helps!
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Life is cheap, tyres and insurance are expensive so all weather tyres and no insurance are the go for cheap motoring!
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I am no tyre expert but my trusted mechanic told me that all season tyre compounds are much more advanced these days compared to 10 years ago. You should be OK if you have the "M+S" and "Three peak mountain +snow flake" on your All Season Tyre (both and not only M+S).

I started to use these last winter and had no issues or notice anything different to a winter tyre. I take extra consideration to the rain performance of a tyre and always select "A" or "B" rating. I live in a area with a few mountains and get a decent amount of snow in winter.

P.S. I am no boy racer, drive according to the speed limits and take extra precaution whenever the road conditions change to worse

+ checking your tyre pressure at least once every two weeks helps!
I had Pirelli All Season tires last year on my A3. I changed car and now have seperate summer and winter tires. The all season tires were amazing, i didnt get stuck at all but we did have a relatively mild winter here in 2017/18 compared to this year anyway. I do think i would have stuggled with all season this winter, just too much snow for them to cope with. I am a great fan though. i would defo buy them again but possibly only for a normal,smaller car than i have now.
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I had Pirelli All Season tires last year on my A3. I changed car and now have seperate summer and winter tires. The all season tires were amazing, i didnt get stuck at all but we did have a relatively mild winter here in 2017/18 compared to this year anyway. I do think i would have stuggled with all season this winter, just too much snow for them to cope with. I am a great fan though. i would defo buy them again but possibly only for a normal,smaller car than i have now.

I'm not picking holes in what you said, but surely an inch of snow is the same as a meter of snow as far as the tyres are concerned?

If they are not touching tarmac, the depth of the layer of snow inbetween is irrelevant.
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I'm not picking holes in what you said, but surely an inch of snow is the same as a meter of snow as far as the tyres are concerned?

If they are not touching tarmac, the depth of the layer of snow inbetween is irrelevant.
Well, last year we did have a mild winter in St Gallen. On various occasions i went out and eventhough it had been snowing, i could still make out the tarmac on the road so not that deep. As far as i am aware, and what every website states, the tread is different in an All Season tire compared to a winter tire. All seasons have to cater for "all seasons" so the tread pattern is different. Taken from the Bridgstone website regarding winter tires: Winter tires have deeper tread depths and unique tread patterns. Deeper tread depths reduce snow buildup and provide better traction on the snow. Winter tire tread patterns are designed to channel snow and slush and expel water. .

https://www.bridgestonetire.com/trea...l-season-tires
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Well, last year we did have a mild winter in St Gallen. On various occasions i went out and eventhough it had been snowing, i could still make out the tarmac on the road so not that deep. As far as i am aware, and what every website states, the tread is different in an All Season tire compared to a winter tire. All seasons have to cater for "all seasons" so the tread pattern is different. Taken from the Bridgstone website regarding winter tires: Winter tires have deeper tread depths and unique tread patterns. Deeper tread depths reduce snow buildup and provide better traction on the snow. Winter tire tread patterns are designed to channel snow and slush and expel water. .

https://www.bridgestonetire.com/trea...l-season-tires
I had a French GF who lived in the Chamonix valley, she used summer tyres all year. When they were worn out I put on a set of Pirelli All season tyres, which performed very well in snow, TBH no obvious difference to winter tyres. I spend about 12 weeks a year in the mountains so do plenty of driving with snow on the road. The Pirelli all season tread looks like winter tread pattern rather than summer tyre pattern. The age of the tyres is far more important than anything else..... date of manufacture not date of first use.
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