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Lessons Required to get motorbike license -125cc

Hi there,

I require an instructor who can provide the appropriate lessons required to get my 125cc MB licence.
Any contacts appreciated

thanks in advance
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Old 24.03.2010, 21:43
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Hi there,

I require an instructor who can provide the appropriate lessons required to get my 125cc MB licence.
Any contacts appreciated

thanks in advance
Steve
I have been contemplating getting back on two wheels for some time, so would be interested in the answer as well.
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Old 24.03.2010, 22:38
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Re: Lessons Required to get motorbike license -125cc

For instance: http://www.motorradfahrschule24.ch/
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Re: Lessons Required to get motorbike license -125cc

I need to give the test for motorcycle. Could anyone please tell me if the instructor asks questions on traffic regulations during the practical test ? Or do they only look at the driving skills. Thanks
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Re: Lessons Required to get motorbike license -125cc

Hi highly recommend Alex he speaks good English and is a very nice, patient and friendly person.

http://www.motorradgrundkurs.ch/inde...ent&Page=Start
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Re: Lessons Required to get motorbike license -125cc

First of all: assuming you have no Swiss driving license: you need to do a first aid course (Only attendance, no examination required) then you need to study Swiss driving regulations (Quite a stiff examination at the Cantonal driving center, you can bring an offficial interpreter with you), then you need an eye test at an Optician, then you get a provisional license. You have to take about 8 hours of instruction with a Swiss driving school. Then you take the practical test.

To start with, approach your local driving school whom has all the detailed information.
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First of all: assuming you have no Swiss driving license: you need to do a first aid course (Only attendance, no examination required) then you need to study Swiss driving regulations (Quite a stiff examination at the Cantonal driving center, you can bring an offficial interpreter with you), then you need an eye test at an Optician, then you get a provisional license. You have to take about 8 hours of instruction with a Swiss driving school. Then you take the practical test.

To start with, approach your local driving school whom has all the detailed information.
But if you do have a Swiss car license, you can bypass the other stuff and directly get the learner's permit, as my girlfriend just did.

Also, there is no 125 license anymore, it is A1 (for bikes up to 34PS, depending on weight, lighter bikes have a lower power limit).

In addition, if you are 25+, you have a choice of going for the A1, or directly the A (unlimited).

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But if you do have a Swiss car license, you can bypass the other stuff and directly get the learner's permit, as my girlfriend just did.

Also, there is no 125 license anymore, it is A1 (for bikes up to 34PS, depending on weight, lighter bikes have a lower power limit).

In addition, if you are 25+, you have a choice of going for the A1, or directly the A (unlimited).

Tom
Hi I have a swiss license, you get a learners permit from where? and then what do you do? Is there a instructor or course or what?
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Hi I have a swiss license, you get a learners permit from where?
From your local Department of Motor Vehicles (Zurich): http://www.stva.zh.ch/internet/siche...Alf/LFkat.html
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Re: Lessons Required to get motorbike license -125cc

Hello,


back in france, i was allowed to drive 125ccs with my old enough car driver's license

i exchanged it against a swiss one but its not saying anywhere i can ride 125ccs

2 questions:

- can i drive 125 ccs ? 80 ccs ? 50 ccs ?
- If i cant drive 125 ccs, can I get it fixed or do i have to take lessons/pass an exam ?
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i exchanged it against a swiss one but its not saying anywhere i can ride 125ccs
I bet it does, but reading isn't everyones strenght... turn the card around and have a look. I bet it says that you have an A1 license with a remark 45 kmh. This means you can ride small motorcycles which are limited to 45 kmh, typically 50cc. They have a yellow number plate vs a white one. This is btw not a Swiss thing, but would be the same in any EU country as the license system is now the same all over the continent...

If you want to ride more than that do you need to make a new license. This is much easier in Switzerland as in most other countries as you can practice on your own with an L on the back and only need very few lessons for a 125cc (vs the larger ones). You will find a lot of info on the processes on here if you search the forum...
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Re: Lessons Required to get motorbike license -125cc

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I bet it does, but reading isn't everyones strenght... turn the card around and have a look. I bet it says that you have an A1 license with a remark 45 kmh. This means you can ride small motorcycles which are limited to 45 kmh, typically 50cc. They have a yellow number plate vs a white one. This is btw not a Swiss thing, but would be the same in any EU country as the license system is now the same all over the continent...

If you want to ride more than that do you need to make a new license. This is much easier in Switzerland as in most other countries as you can practice on your own with an L on the back and only need very few lessons for a 125cc (vs the larger ones). You will find a lot of info on the processes on here if you search the forum...
I'm also searching for information on this subject but will pass on what I already understand (based out of Geneva).

I have a Swiss licence with the A1 limited to 45KM/H category (cat. B. since '87 though). Process is as follows:
- Opticians (if you haven't been for less than 24 months) for an eye test.
- Service des Auto to obtain the provisional licence category (in my case, A1).
- 8 hours of practical instruction at a recognised school (because of the 'B', you're exempt from theory and medical training)
- back to Service des Auto for full A1 entitlement (with signed confirmation of your training from the school)
- Note - for 125cc / 11Kw max (i.e. A1), there's no official test requirement.

To continue to full 'A', you need an additional 4 hours of training plus you need to complete a test. Since I'm (sadly) mono-lingual, I've basically precluded myself from this one.

My current dilemma is that I don't yet have a motorcycle to do the 8 hour training on - just want to get the training done and over with and the licence in hand before the late spring/summer rush begins and everyone starts filling the moto schools up!

Hope that helps the OP (and perhaps others). I also have a question that I'm not able to get an answer to yet (but am very interested to know):
- These 3 wheeler scooters I see around town - in the UK, I understand you can ride them on a car ('B') licence. Is this the case in Switzerland and where would I find confirmation if so? (would be brilliant if so, lots of hassle saved but somehow I doubt Switzerland would let this one go!)

I will (at some point in late spring or slightly thereafter) be looking for a town scooter (very limited highway if any) - tending more to executive/convenience/comfort than anything else. Any recommendations welcome? I'm already an experience biker of 20+ years (3 years in Thailand on a 650 custom and then an FZR750 - a licence doesn't speak to a Thai policeman like Baht do - among other small ones in the UK years ago) but personal risk management / age / very used to comfortable cars now exact a much stronger influence in my choices.

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Re: Lessons Required to get motorbike license -125cc

Another question following on from this if people don't mind me asking...

I did this 2 summers ago (I think!) and added the A1 tag to my normal car (B) license. So I did 8 hours lessons on my 125cc Vespa, without a test or anything like that.

Maybe a stupid question, but I'd quite like to get the unrestricted A license so I could get a 250/300cc Vespa, but do I have to do the extra 4 hours practical and test on a > 125cc scooter, or can I do the lessons / test on my currenct 125cc machine?

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Re: Lessons Required to get motorbike license -125cc

You need to do the test on a bigger machine: "Ein zweirädriges Motorrad ohne Seitenwagen, mit einer Motorleistung von mindestens 35 kW und zwei Sitzplätzen"

I'd recommend doing lessons and riding on such a machine too.
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You need to do the test on a bigger machine: "Ein zweirädriges Motorrad ohne Seitenwagen, mit einer Motorleistung von mindestens 35 kW und zwei Sitzplätzen"

I'd recommend doing lessons and riding on such a machine too.
This seems a bit overkill, no?

If I want to ride a 250 / 300cc scooter, I have to do the full test thing? It seems that the 300cc scooter only has a performance of around 16Kw, so in order to be allowed to ride that, I need to do a test on something twice as powerful again?
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This seems a bit overkill, no?

If I want to ride a 250 / 300cc scooter, I have to do the full test thing? It seems that the 300cc scooter only has a performance of around 16Kw, so in order to be allowed to ride that, I need to do a test on something twice as
powerful again?
Go for A (restricted/beschraenkt) where you need a two seater bike (which is not a A1 bike) with no more than 25kW and a power weight ratio of no more than 0,16 kW/kg. (Which is the mandatory route if one is younger than 25)

But you will not gain much as training and test are the same. Actually, a lot of younger driver take the A beschraenkt test on throttled machines.
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Re: Lessons Required to get motorbike license -125cc

Just to add: there are some Scooters/Bikes, like the Honda SW-T400, that have too much power to be driven with a Cat. A restricted license (more than 25kW) but do not enough power to take the practical A unrestricted test (less than 35kW).

It is advisable to do the practical training with the motor bike that you will drive later. My interpretation of the law (Art. 19 VZV) is that you can do the practical training with any A motor bike, restricted or not, and just use a more powerful (rented) machine for the test. But ask an instructor for details.
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Just to add: there are some Scooters/Bikes, like the Honda SW-T400, that have too much power to be driven with a Cat. A restricted license (more than 25kW) but do not enough power to take the practical A unrestricted test (less than 35kW).

It is advisable to do the practical training with the motor bike that you will drive later. My interpretation of the law (Art. 19 VZV) is that you can do the practical training with any A motor bike, restricted or not, and just use a more powerful (rented) machine for the test. But ask an instructor for details.
Indeed you can rent a big bike to do the official bits but you'll find the manoeuvre test easier on a familiar bike.

Test and therefore lessons involve a pillion. The examiner will try to upset your stability during the test.....

So the setup is daft for those wanting a slushy scoot' but passing the test is what you need to focus on. I found A to be easier than A1 but beware! on the emergency stop test, stay away from the black bits on the floor.....I nearly dropped it as the rubber on the floor is hideous.

Also do go up to the test center and do the tramlines and figure 8 tests and so-on.
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