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Yes that's the chap. To be honest the guy in Bern was nice too and the BMW dealer at Titan in Zurich too. Markus just stands out for me though as a particularly nice guy, no pressure, no spiel etc. The proof of the pudding though will be if there are any warranty issues to deal with.

As an aside I've admired your stable from afar on PH for a while now. I don't think I can find fault with any of your choices.
Cheers!

On warranties, my only experience was with my UK 996 GT3 - needed new coil pack, and the Zug Porsche dealer accepted the Porsche UK warranty without blinking an eye. They seem very straight here.

Markus seems very low pressure, although in my experience he still offers reasonable discounts. Swiss dealers vary wildly in this. I go the extra miles to my Lambo dealer in St Gallen, they are excellent, whereas I see the prices on the Zurich dealer's website are always significantly higher. A lot comes down to how much they are prepared to play with the price list, which has embedded EUR/CHF fx rate from the manufacturer - often the dealer can get a better rate from his bank and is happy to do a deal.

Prices for second hand cars, especially 911 turbo's, seem a bit mad however. Good luck though - definately go for a 911 over a Boxster!
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Old 28.03.2010, 20:36
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Cheers!

On warranties, my only experience was with my UK 996 GT3 - needed new coil pack, and the Zug Porsche dealer accepted the Porsche UK warranty without blinking an eye. They seem very straight here.

Markus seems very low pressure, although in my experience he still offers reasonable discounts. Swiss dealers vary wildly in this. I go the extra miles to my Lambo dealer in St Gallen, they are excellent, whereas I see the prices on the Zurich dealer's website are always significantly higher. A lot comes down to how much they are prepared to play with the price list, which has embedded EUR/CHF fx rate from the manufacturer - often the dealer can get a better rate from his bank and is happy to do a deal.

Prices for second hand cars, especially 911 turbo's, seem a bit mad however. Good luck though - definately go for a 911 over a Boxster!
They say the only people that buy Boxter's are those that can't afford a 911 (rightly or wrongly). Go for a 911
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Old 28.03.2010, 21:02
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I'm going to speak to Markus tomorrow and if he will throw in a set of winter tyres, hardtop storage for a season and a map update for the satnav, I'll sign the paperwork the same day at the sticker price.

I always knew the 911 was going to be the one - my biggest concern was was something going wrong and it costing serious money to fix - I dread to think how much OPC labour rates are in CH. The worldwide 2 year warranty they are offering at the moment though, pretty much negates that argument. My gf has been won over by the 4wd all year round practicality and the emergency rear seats/luggage storage, even though it isn't as "pretty" as the Boxster.

The price is an interesting one because it makes me wince when you compare to the UK, but if we were using historical FX rates the CH price is a little lower. As I'm paid in CHF, I can stomach this.

Wrt to the snide comments about the Boxster from people, I tend to find they come from people who can't afford either or who are driving a company poverty spec 318i. I could live with that tbh and the comments I was getting from mates last night about hairdressers and gayers cars. I'm buying the car for the love of driving not image. (So yes I should be looking at GT3s instead of a turbo cab, but I want something for all year round as it's going to be our only car and the back seats will be handy - not to mention I'm addicted to open top motoring).
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Old 28.03.2010, 21:08
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Dont forget to post some pics.

If you was to buy in say Germany, do they have the same emissions, MFK etc as in Schweiz?
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I'm going to speak to Markus tomorrow and if he will throw in a set of winter tyres, hardtop storage for a season and a map update for the satnav, I'll sign the paperwork the same day at the sticker price.

I always knew the 911 was going to be the one - my biggest concern was was something going wrong and it costing serious money to fix - I dread to think how much OPC labour rates are in CH. The worldwide 2 year warranty they are offering at the moment though, pretty much negates that argument. My gf has been won over by the 4wd all year round practicality and the emergency rear seats/luggage storage, even though it isn't as "pretty" as the Boxster.

The price is an interesting one because it makes me wince when you compare to the UK, but if we were using historical FX rates the CH price is a little lower. As I'm paid in CHF, I can stomach this.

Wrt to the snide comments about the Boxster from people, I tend to find they come from people who can't afford either or who are driving a company poverty spec 318i. I could live with that tbh and the comments I was getting from mates last night about hairdressers and gayers cars. I'm buying the car for the love of driving not image. (So yes I should be looking at GT3s instead of a turbo cab, but I want something for all year round as it's going to be our only car and the back seats will be handy - not to mention I'm addicted to open top motoring).
How very exciting - and quick decision making.

A big (and hopefully not too premature) CONGRATULATIONS from my side!!! Only a little jealous
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Old 28.03.2010, 21:16
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Dont forget to post some pics.

If you was to buy in say Germany, do they have the same emissions, MFK etc as in Schweiz?
Hmm not sure about the pics - There are some serious anti-car nazis on here, not to mention those that think that earning more than 60k a year should be banned! I seem to remember a thread where someone got a bucket of grief off people for putting a sports exhaust on his Maserati. Who am I kidding - I won't be able to resist.

The spec of the car should be the same in Germany, but you are right about emissions, MFK etc, but there are agents who can sort it all out for you for a couple of grand, but that pretty much eliminates any financial gain and wouldn't have the benefits I mentioned earlier from buying from CH. It should also keeps it's value a bit better too as a CH car.
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Old 28.03.2010, 21:26
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Sod the anti-car hippies, one of my groans was from a tree hugging hippy that hated cars

I have a 4L Wrangler so am no hippy and am either gonna get a Maserati, Ferrari 328 gts (has to be black) or that 911 that a friend is trying to shift.

Get it, enjoy it and post pics
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Old 28.03.2010, 21:36
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How very exciting - and quick decision making.

A big (and hopefully not too premature) CONGRATULATIONS from my side!!! Only a little jealous
Thanks.

I don't tend to hang around when I make decisions and in this case all the good stuff from the dealer ends at the end of the month, so I can't hang around.

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Sod the anti-car hippies, one of my groans was from a tree hugging hippy that hated cars

I have a 4L Wrangler so am no hippy and am either gonna get a Maserati, Ferrari 328 gts (has to be black) or that 911 that a friend is trying to shift.

Get it, enjoy it and post pics
Judging by this thread it looks like we are starting to get a few petrolheads on here after all. Maybe we should petition the mods to let us have our own hidden section that the hippies can't get access too

How are Maseratis here for depreciation? I looked into a 3200 briefly in the UK and was scared away by the ruinous deprecation and running costs.
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Well done that man!

Put some pics up.

(BTW I only mentioned buy the 911 not the Boxster because, having driven both, IMO there's no contest!)
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Old 28.03.2010, 21:59
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Well done that man!

Put some pics up.

(BTW I only mentioned buy the 911 not the Boxster because, having driven both, IMO there's no contest!)
I know a petrolhead would be giving objective opinion on the car rather than the image

As you all want pics, here a a few I took with my phone. It needs a good clean and polish and I will take some pictures with a proper camera when I get it.

Hopefully I'm not tempting fate and nothing will stop me getting it. I've cleared it with the most important bank manager, so I'm hoping it will go smoothly now the biggest hurdle is cleared.

No idea why the pics are upside down. They look fine on my PC and even if I flip them and reupload they come out the same
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Old 28.03.2010, 22:20
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Nice car and well done snapping a great deal.
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Have you been dealing with Markus Anderson at Porsche Zürich
I was trying to think who he reminded me of in his style. I know you've had TVRs in the past. Did you ever come across Drew at Fernhurst in Surrey/Hampshire. They strike me as very similar and if I ever bought a TVR, it would be from him.
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Can't wait to drive it! Good choice ibb.
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Can't wait to drive it! Good choice ibb.
Thanks. I think you misunderstood me though when I said I'd give you a ride
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Thanks. I think you misunderstood me though when I said I'd give you a ride
That is a continual misunderstanding with you. It's a car ride only iBeeb, I'm not on the market for anything else.
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I was trying to think who he reminded me of in his style. I know you've had TVRs in the past. Did you ever come across Drew at Fernhurst in Surrey/Hampshire. They strike me as very similar and if I ever bought a TVR, it would be from him.
Name rings a bell. Fernies, small world! I used to deal with Simon (with the gold tooth) and Graham, many moons ago in my Griff 500 and Cerbera 4.5 days.

Nice pics of the turbot by the way!
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Name rings a bell. Fernies, small world! I used to deal with Simon (with the gold tooth) and Graham, many moons ago in my Griff 500 and Cerbera 4.5 days.

Nice pics of the turbot by the way!
They all seem a nice bunch. I think the common denominator is having confidence in your product and an emotional attachment. If I were a car dealer, I wouldn't be to deal with selling bland euroboxes to coffin dodgers!

I'm quite looking forward to getting the proper camera out and getting some photos with a bit of scenery, say at the top of some of the passes
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I could live with that tbh and the comments I was getting from mates last night about hairdressers and gayers cars. I'm buying the car for the love of driving not image.
I'm slightly agrieved that I missed the opportunity to take said p*ss, I had some good ones saved up too An excellent purchase young sir, congratulations When do you expect delivery?

Oh, and if you need someone to show you how to drive it...ahem...I'll gladly oblige..ahem.
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I'm quite looking forward to getting the proper camera out and getting some photos with a bit of scenery, say at the top of some of the passes
Maybe you could make your own version of this wearing Persol sunglasses with Matt Monroe singing in the background:
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I'm slightly agrieved that I missed the opportunity to take said p*ss, I had some good ones saved up too An excellent purchase young sir, congratulations When do you expect delivery?

Oh, and if you need someone to show you how to drive it...ahem...I'll gladly oblige..ahem.
I'm going to go and sign the paperwork tonight I think. He said that it normally takes about 10 days to service, prep, polish etc, so given it's Easter this weekend, I'm figuring a week on Friday evening/Saturday morning. Am already plotting a trip to the Black Forest

Following the last time I was in a motor vehicle with you, I shall politely decline your kind offer
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