Ok, I understand...

*sniff*

Mind that glass house won't you though! What's the insurance like?

You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off

c'mon mate, you know if I let you have a go, whiny little will want one too...

A 911 Porsche is everyones dream, but when it comes to the speed restriction, trafic jam, exessive road use and and driving over sidewalks i think a Cayenne is the better choice. I know 2 people who had the 350 horse power sport car locked up in the garage for years and never uses it. Al are swearing about the massive trafic in switzerland and extreme expensive speeding fines and the envier scratching the car.

A Cayenne??? Why oh why

He'll do fine with his 911.

Right on, the Cayenne is oblivious to all of the above ?

I'm going to ignore the baiting, suffice to say if I can live with a sportscar in London I can cope here. The people in this country need to get a reality check in terms of what they think overcrowding is, either on public transport or on the roads. My record waiting for a tube at Waterloo to get to work was 12 trains, before I could squeeze into one. People here complain if they can't get a seat!

The 911 may not be coming now

I've just got off the phone with the dealer and it turns out they had the car on sale or return and the owner has just totalled his over car and isn't vollkasko, so needs the 911 back while he decides what to do. GRRRRRRRR

They have offered me a frankly stonking deal on a newer (997) 4S, but it's silver, which my girlfriend hates (and frankly I'm not a huge fan of) and it's not a turbo. I just know if I go for it I'm just going to wish I'd got the turbo all the time. Oh decisions...

I am so saving that quote for future regurgitation.

Sorry to hear about the proper Porsche though, sure there'll be another one popping up soon.

I think you should shop around on autoscout24 or try to import one from the USA. Also try the amag center in Zug.
But you need to be carefull to park a new 911 in and around Zürich.

Why?

Thank you for the advice. I am only interested in having a Porsche from an official Porsche centre. The model I want in the right colour, with reasonable mileage isn't available in the whole of CH right now. I have had problems in the past from buying cars from non-main dealers, when there have been warranty problems. Also nowhere else is offering a 2 year global warranty - with a car like this that is very important to me. Importing a car from the US would also have this problem, as well as the conversion issues and frankly I'm not sure a purchase of this magnitude is done over the phone/email.

Wrt to parking. Not really an issue - I will rent a garage next to my apartment and live close to the centre of Zurich, so would still continue to use the tram/S-Bahn to get into the city centre.

kev...used to own one...Cayenne S...1st production year...and I tell you it was one of the best rides I had...handled better than the 6 series I just sold...yes perhaps ugly to some but the utility and the way it sounded and felt were really impressive..

Whereas I looked at getting a Cayenne and found it to be one of the worst 4x4s I've even driven. It was so twitchy on the motorway; you accept that in a 911 but a 2 tonne barge?

The only good thing about the Cayenne is that the residuals are so poor you can pick up a Cayenne Turbo for the same price as a new Focus in the UK (granted, servicing will cost you a bomb).

well then get a Porsche from US at a official Porsche dealer...many do so and you can afford more car for less cash...only 911 I would ever consider would be the 911 4s preferably convertible but would be ok with coupe...look at cars.com....plenty of deals especially for pre-owned

you are entitled to your opinion...I've found it to be a good combo of utility and sportiness....LR's are a joke quality and handling wise...and so are X5's or Jeeps which don't perform well in any category

Quite clearly you are nuts. Whilst the Range Rover has some quality issues, handling wise it is leagues ahead of the Cayenne.

as stated...you have your opinion and I have mine...what's with the name calling? you obviously do not know s!it about cars and cannot have a constructive discussion without being an a..hole!

The irony is strong with this one.

that's the way I wanted it to be...

Well bravo. You circumvented the swear filter and used bad language on quite a friendly forum to make a childish point. Have a groan.

knock yourself out

Gents any chance of keeping this mildly on topic.

There is no way on God's green earth I am going to buy a 4x4 with summer approaching.