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Old 31.03.2010, 15:01
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Ah come on, they don't even make those for grown ups.
It probably comes stock with a "Hello Kitty" decal.
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Old 31.03.2010, 15:10
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Re: Car leasing residual value

Yes, my one and only lease (a merc cabrio, never again) worked out as follows:

Initial deposit: 7k
Lease amount: 1.2 k p.m.
Residual: 15k

Offered 20k as was in great nick, to enter a new lease but no they wouldnt gimme 5k cash and keep the car (20k-15k I had to pay).

Paid 15k and sold for 22k so apart from payments got my lump sum money back.

Effectively the residual is the most you'll pay if you stick to the contract, regardless of condition.

However, I will never lease again.
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Old 31.03.2010, 15:13
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Yes, my one and only lease (a merc cabrio, never again) worked out as follows:

Initial deposit: 7k
Lease amount: 1.2 k p.m.
Residual: 15k

Offered 20k as was in great nick, to enter a new lease but no they wouldnt gimme 5k cash and keep the car (20k-15k I had to pay).

Paid 15k and sold for 22k so apart from payments got my lump sum money back.

Effectively the residual is the most you'll pay if you stick to the contract, regardless of condition.

However, I will never lease again.

sorry...I don't get what it is you did not get or got and why you would not lease...

its small and French...where is the cool part?

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Old 31.03.2010, 15:34
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its small and French...where is the cool part?
As I said before and as Richdog quoted in the middle of your handbags with inkiboo it's not about image it's about enjoying driving. The Clio 172 cup is one of the finest handling hot hatches ever and if iirc the last before Renault started adding unnecessary weight and nanny aids. Cool is subjective and I never once said it was. It is a drivers car though.
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its small and French...where is the cool part?
You clearly don't know Clios then. The 172 Cup is a fine car.
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It is a drivers car though.
...sure, maybe in The Fast and the furious Paris Drift. Respectable people don't do hatchbacks.
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Old 31.03.2010, 15:38
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As I said before and as Richdog quoted in the middle of your handbags with inkiboo it's not about image it's about enjoying driving. The Clio 172 cup is one of the finest handling hot hatches ever and if iirc the last before Renault started adding unnecessary weight and nanny aids. Cool is subjective and I never once said it was. It is a drivers car though.
ok..thanks for the explanation...each to their own...I like large coupe's/sedan's even wagon's with large engines and handling that makes such cars fun to drive...but yes there are those who enjoy small cars with peppy engines with great suspension...
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As previously stated a GT3 isn't an option here. A 911 turbo will destroy an M6 or Alpina. Incidentally the turbo has 420bhp not 320bhp. Vipers are agricultural, so no thanks.
I doubt it that some sports car from BMW and Audi with around 500hp and 4.2liter engines are behind a Porsche 911 turbo. Yes i know Vipers got a built in truck engine made in Italy, that does not mean that they have no advantages over a porsche 911.
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Old 31.03.2010, 17:06
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Re: Car leasing residual value

Whilst this may go slightly off track again, I kind of get the Viper thing, but to mee it is just too simple. If I was looking towards US cars, I would look at the Corvette Z06 (or ZR1). They are actually getting pretty close to be real competitors to Porsche. So close that I have decided to get a test drive at some point.
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Whilst this may go slightly off track again, I kind of get the Viper thing, but to mee it is just too simple. If I was looking towards US cars, I would look at the Corvette Z06 (or ZR1). They are actually getting pretty close to be real competitors to Porsche. So close that I have decided to get a test drive at some point.
The only negative is that the interior is nowhere near the quality of a Porsche/BMW/Mercedes but then they don't cost the same either.

Certainly an awful lot of bang for your buck.

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I doubt it that some sports car from BMW and Audi with around 500hp and 4.2liter engines are behind a Porsche 911 turbo. Yes i know Vipers got a built in truck engine made in Italy, that does not mean that they have no advantages over a porsche 911.
And with that comment you have been added to the people who talk about cars list

The reason the M6 has 500hp is that it weighs the same as a small country. You haven't mentioned any Audis before. Which did you have in mind? R8 is a Carerra 2 competitor. The V10 might give the turbo a run for it's money, maybe. RS6? See M6.

The truck engine thing isn't even true anymore, but the Dodge doesn't do it for me, neither does paying the tax on an 8.3 litre engine. The handling in the corners isn't reputed to be great either.
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The reason the M6 has 500hp is that it weighs the same as a small country. You haven't mentioned any Audis before. Which did you have in mind? R8 is a Carerra 2 competitor. The V10 might give the turbo a run for it's money, maybe. RS6? See M6.
The 911 and the M6 are very different; the M6 is more a GT than a sports car. As for the R8, when I test drove one it did have the sense of drama that the 997/993 (I'm not a big 996 fan) do. But that's because it's an Audi and most new Audis are very dull.

Saying all that, I ended up buying a Range Rover (now sadly sold).
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The 911 and the M6 are very different; the M6 is more a GT than a sports car. As for the R8, when I test drove one it did have the sense of drama that the 997/993 (I'm not a big 996 fan) do. But that's because it's an Audi and most new Audis are very dull.

Saying all that, I ended up buying a Range Rover (now sadly sold).
1) Took the words out my mouth re the M6 - Definitely has it's place but not a 911 competitor (way off topic, did you see the thread on PH about a 635d costing £80k? Shocked isn't the right word).

2) Presume you meant that the R8 didn't have the sense of occasion.

3) What happened to the Z4?
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Also waiting for the groan from Jaro. What is it with people who work in IT who think they know everything?

There is a thank you to level it out.....
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They have offered me a frankly stonking deal on a newer (997) 4S, but it's silver, which my girlfriend hates (and frankly I'm not a huge fan of) and it's not a turbo. I just know if I go for it I'm just going to wish I'd got the turbo all the time. Oh decisions...
Forget 6 Series BMWs; they depreciate at a fast rate. I was offered a 645 last year (3 years old) for £19k (new price was £60k+.
The only car for somebody that want to DRIVE and the best for Switzerland (use on the narrow roads; not ostentatious; refined and has class and reasonable to service compared to Ferrari or Lambo) is without doubt the Porsche 911 that can be driven as an everyday car and doesn't depreciate at the rate of other cars.

997 4S is the best overall car in the 911 range especially for Switzerland; I personally would prefer it against the 996 Turbo.

With regard to colour; if you thinking of resale; all the sheep seem to like silver or black.

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The Clio 172 cup is one of the finest handling hot hatches ever and if iirc the last before Renault started adding unnecessary weight and nanny aids. Cool is subjective and I never once said it was. It is a drivers car though.
The 172 Cup is excellent, I had one back in the UK for running about, and also raced Clios in the Clio Cup in Hungary. It's a great fun car, no doubt!
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Re: Car leasing residual value

Re-animates old thread....

We will be picking up our Santa Fe this week . We originally agreed to put down 18k, pay over 5 years with a residual of 2k at the end to keep it. However, we have been thinking about not keeping it, raising the residual to 20k (if we can) and paying minimal up front. I'm tempted to think this is a better option all round, knowing that Hyundais probably depreciate quite considerably, and we can keep most of the cash we put aside for a deposit. Any opinions?
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