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Any firsthand experience importing a Porsche?

Moving from USA to Basel. Have always wanted to drive a Porsche Boxster in the Alps. Ready to make my dream come true. Boxster prices are sick here. I can buy a 911 in the states for Boxster money here. I realize it will save a lot of pain to just buy local but want to explore other options first.

Anyone have actual firsthand experience importing a 987 Boxster S or 997 911 from USA to Switzerland? Is one particularly easier than the other for any reason? I know there are some porsche experts in the group...

I've searched this forum but didn't get clear experience info--just a lot of theories. Just looking for whether one would require fewer mods. they both lack KPH on the analog gauge but have it digitally. But not sure about lights. I will be here at least 4years and would probably bring it back with me so need to worry about re-sale value here.

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Re: Any firsthand experience importing a Porsche?

I have been looking at importing Porsches from the USA to Switzerland.
I was considering doing this on a roll on roll off via Liverpool (UK).

I cannot believe the prices of Porsches in Switzerland compared to the USA but wonder what the import duties etc etc are.

I understand that the specification is virtually the same so very few alterations (Radio and Sat Nav) to make when imported into Switzerland.

Somebody in this forum did import a Carrera 2S (997) from USA to Switzerland but they have moved since to Singapore.

Persoanlly, if you are going through the hassle, I would buy a 911 (997) as the transport paperwork is exactly the same for a cheap car as an expensive car.
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Re: Any firsthand experience importing a Porsche?

Can you bring me over a Ferrari 328gts in Black?
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Old 03.04.2010, 22:31
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Re: Any firsthand experience importing a Porsche?

I was looking at the same question recently (while I am a bit more flexible on the models). Before anybody cuts in: I spent two hours reading through all the posts on importing a car from the US and 99% is rubbish. I had some look on the strassenverkehrsamt-website (in German) and the process does not look too complicated as long as you import a car younger than 1996 that fulfills the newer pollution tests.

The questions that have been answered:
- you will need to get the radio fixed as the US has differnet frequencies (or live with a stereo that plays only half of all stations)
- SatNav will not work
- Some models will require major changes in the lighting, AFAIK are Porsches on the easer side of this
- most modern cars have digital instrument panels that can be switched from miles to km.

Question that have not been answered properly:
- Who has imported a car not as part of the move, but independently and can give a real world indication of all costs involved.
- Who had some professional help doing so and cn recommend some shops for the different steps involved (fixing the radio and so on... your local AMAG might not love to do that.)
- Or did somebody really go to AMAG and can tell of the experiences he had there.

Yes, yes, yes, your resale value might be lower. I know a Swiss (!) guy who did import an used 997 4S cabriolet and told me that all in all he saved around 40k from the price of a similar model locally. I personally want to keep the car for some years, so at the end it is maybe only worth 40k, so the resell value difference simply cannot be an issue.
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Re: Any firsthand experience importing a Porsche?

I agree with there being a lot of useless or overly-specific info around. I was/am looking at importing an Italian car from Italy (possibly the factory). I'd love to know how this works re: tax - do I claim back the Italian tax and then pay the Swiss tax and duty?
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I was looking at the same question recently (while I am a bit more flexible on the models). Before anybody cuts in: I spent two hours reading through all the posts on importing a car from the US and 99% is rubbish. I had some look on the strassenverkehrsamt-website (in German) and the process does not look too complicated as long as you import a car younger than 1996 that fulfills the newer pollution tests.

The questions that have been answered:
- you will need to get the radio fixed as the US has differnet frequencies (or live with a stereo that plays only half of all stations)
- SatNav will not work
- Some models will require major changes in the lighting, AFAIK are Porsches on the easer side of this
- most modern cars have digital instrument panels that can be switched from miles to km.

Question that have not been answered properly:
- Who has imported a car not as part of the move, but independently and can give a real world indication of all costs involved.
- Who had some professional help doing so and cn recommend some shops for the different steps involved (fixing the radio and so on... your local AMAG might not love to do that.)
- Or did somebody really go to AMAG and can tell of the experiences he had there.

Yes, yes, yes, your resale value might be lower. I know a Swiss (!) guy who did import an used 997 4S cabriolet and told me that all in all he saved around 40k from the price of a similar model locally. I personally want to keep the car for some years, so at the end it is maybe only worth 40k, so the resell value difference simply cannot be an issue.
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Old 03.04.2010, 23:38
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I agree with there being a lot of useless or overly-specific info around. I was/am looking at importing an Italian car from Italy (possibly the factory). I'd love to know how this works re: tax - do I claim back the Italian tax and then pay the Swiss tax and duty?
You can import it tax free from Italy and pay the taxes in Switzerland. Contact the factory/supplier and tell them you want to import it to Switzerland, they should do all the export paperwork for you. You can also organise delivery on the back of a transporter and have them do the import paperwork (re taxes) on your behalf, they are doing work like this all the time so the costs are very reasonable.

We imported new from the UK tax free but any other EU country should be the same. TCS has a brouchere that details the whole nine yards of how to do this. It is pretty straight forward and would do it again oursleves. In fact we just used the short list of notes from the TCS website. Link here

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Old 03.04.2010, 23:57
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Re: Any firsthand experience importing a Porsche?

This really does help. Do you (or does anyone else) know if this is a practicable and "wise" thing to do. If it's cheaper and quite easy why doesn't everyone do it?
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You can import it tax free from Italy and pay the taxes in Switzerland. Contact the factory/supplier and tell them you want to import it to Switzerland, they should do all the export paperwork for you. You can also organise delivery on the back of a transporter and have them do the import paperwork (re taxes) on your behalf, they are doing work like this all the time so the costs are very reasonable.

We imported new from the UK tax free but any other EU country should be the same. TCS has a brouchere that details the whole nine yards of how to do this. It is pretty straight forward and would do it again oursleves. In fact we just used the short list of notes from the TCS website. Link here

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Old 04.04.2010, 00:18
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Re: Any firsthand experience importing a Porsche?

You can also look into importing a car from Denmark. Taxes on cars in Denmark are 180%, so the car manufacturers sell them discounted in Denmark, as they would otherwise be even more unaffordable.

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This really does help. Do you (or does anyone else) know if this is a practicable and "wise" thing to do. If it's cheaper and quite easy why doesn't everyone do it?
There is time and effort involved but in my opinion it is well worth it, the car we imported cost us just under 65,000 CHF after all costs, here it would cost us 100,000 CHF so the saving was worth it. Oh, yeh that was with the garage offering a 900 CHF discount, my that was tempting offer...

Downside: Considered not a Swiss car and also does not have the Swiss service pacakge.

Honestly I think that is rubbish, the servicing here is overpriced and they will find one way or another to screw you on the service costs.

Also we sold our Skoda which was an import for close to the Swiss price of second hand cars here. (so the knock 30% off does not hold true in all cases)

When going through the import process we were lined up against a few porsches a ferrari and a bently so other people do import some high value cars.

I think quite a few people fear getting stuck in the process and having to deal with hassle they are not sure how to sort out. We did the whole process ourselves even though we looked into having others transport the car here and deal with the paperwork. The import and customs people were helpful and polite as were the people at the Cantonal inspection for the car. All in all quite painless and definitely worth the saving.

Bottom line is I hate the "is it a Swiss car"..... no ****, it is just one big cartel, none of the major cars are manufactured here.
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I agree with there being a lot of useless or overly-specific info around. I was/am looking at importing an Italian car from Italy (possibly the factory). I'd love to know how this works re: tax - do I claim back the Italian tax and then pay the Swiss tax and duty?
I would say that all Italian factories are tied up and things like Ferrari/Maserati; Lamborgini would not discount anything.

If you were looking for an Alfaromeo; then buy three year old second hand (depreciation is phenominal) and probaly better buying from Germany as not sure I would trust buying from Italian.

Cheapest places to buy brand new cars from dealership to import was Denmark becuase car import tax in Denmark was 100% so manufacturers used to dump cars for volume making no profit on them.

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This really does help. Do you (or does anyone else) know if this is a practicable and "wise" thing to do. If it's cheaper and quite easy why doesn't everyone do it?
I would guess because most people would need finance on a new car and I doubt if getting finance on something like this would be easy.
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I would guess because most people would need finance on a new car and I doubt if getting finance on something like this would be easy.

I think if you use someone like these guys:

http://www.autociel.ch/en-us/defaut/accueil.html

Then finance can be arranged I think. I have not used them myself, but I have heard good things about them. If I chose to import, I will probably use them.
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I have been looking at importing Porsches from the USA to Switzerland.
I was considering doing this on a roll on roll off via Liverpool (UK).

A RoRo across the North Atlantic ?.....Surely you mean containerised ?
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A RoRo across the North Atlantic ?.....Surely you mean containerised ?
No I don't; I mean roll on roll off.

Jaguars are shipped to the USA from the UK by "Roll On Roll Off" and I understood that it is the cheapest method of transport back to the UK ofr a car. I was going to look into it for my self as I was after a 997 Carrera 2 or 4S but that was when the US$ was 2.0 to the GB£ not 1.5 as now.
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No I don't; I mean roll on roll off.

Jaguars are shipped to the USA from the UK by "Roll On Roll Off" and I understood that it is the cheapest method of transport back to the UK ofr a car. I was going to look into it for my self as I was after a 997 Carrera 2 or 4S but that was when the US$ was 2.0 to the GB£ not 1.5 as now.
I know exactly what you mean, most RoRo's are such specialised vessels that they are owned and used exclusively by the car companies. Toyota are the largest RoRo owner.

For a one off, i think you will find containers considerably cheaper and far easier to insure.
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Re: Any firsthand experience importing a Porsche?

I found this car, located in USA, where he writes it costs CHF 2500-3000 to transport it to Zürich:
http://www.autoscout24.ch/AS24Web/De...2&page=1&row=1

I know it is not a Porsche, but you could call him, and ask, who does the transport of the car.

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I found this car, located in USA, where he writes it costs CHF 2500-3000 to transport it to Zürich:
http://www.autoscout24.ch/AS24Web/De...2&page=1&row=1

I know it is not a Porsche, but you could call him, and ask, who does the transport of the car.

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Great car Doc. So do you need a parking place or a mooring place for that???
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Re: Any firsthand experience importing a Porsche?

I can't speak for getting a car all the way to Switzerland, but I imported a car from East Coast USA to the UK. From memory, it cost me between $600-700 to put the car in a container and ship it. None of the agents I contacted offered RoRo.
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Great car Doc. So do you need a parking place or a mooring place for that???
Thats exactly what I like about this one. Full freedom to choose

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Re: Any firsthand experience importing a Porsche?

I have done it - it is not easy - needed help to get through the process - in short it is a shakedown, i.e. you will share the cost savings with those that are gate keepers in the process - in the end it is cheaper but no where near as much as you might think. However, it is different if you are bringing over in your initial move into the country - then you can really save, i.e. no taxes, easier to get approved.

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Re: Any firsthand experience importing a Porsche?

if anyone is doing this, let me know as im after a 997 4s cabrio as well.. may get a bulk buying discount as well!
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