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20.04.2010, 15:58
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| | Re: Oldtimers [classic cars] | Quote: | |  | | | I'll be getting something fast this year | | | | | Same plan here, but might be recent and no classic.
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20.04.2010, 16:00
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| | Re: Oldtimers [classic cars] | Quote: | |  | | | Same plan here, but might be recent and no classic. | | | | | As long as they put smiles on our faces and wind in our hair (if that applies) then all is good | 
20.04.2010, 16:03
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| | Re: Oldtimers [classic cars] | Quote: | |  | | | As long as they put smiles on our faces and wind in our hair (if that applies) then all is good | | | | | the wind or the hair?? | 
20.04.2010, 16:10
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| | Re: Oldtimers [classic cars] | Quote: | |  | | | ...you must be Swiss. | | | | | Chek out some of the narow passroads and think about braking in turns on slippery cow shit.
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20.04.2010, 16:32
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| | Re: Oldtimers [classic cars] | Quote: | |  | | | (if that applies) | | | | | If I remember correctly, it applies as much in my case as it does in yours | 
20.04.2010, 16:36
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| | Re: Oldtimers [classic cars] | Quote: | |  | | | Chek out some of the narow passroads and think about braking in turns on slippery cow shit. | | | | | ..hmm, strangely enough, there are plenty of oldtimer mountain races being held. | 
20.04.2010, 16:37
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| | Re: Oldtimers [classic cars] | Quote: | |  | | | ..hmm, strangely enough, there are plenty of oldtimer mountain races being held.  | | | | | with fast old racing cars with heaps of horsepower and no ABS
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20.04.2010, 16:39
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| | Re: Oldtimers [classic cars] | Quote: | |  | | | Chek out some of the narow passroads and think about braking in turns on slippery cow shit. | | | | | "Braking in turns" said it all.... in combination with the ABS idea: You are not really a driver, are you?
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20.04.2010, 16:40
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| | Re: Oldtimers [classic cars] | Quote: | |  | | | Yea i remember chasing around for parts on the whole globe for an 72 year built car. Being asked to pay redicelous prices for parts. | | | | | I can order all the parts I need for mine online. But the only thing it has needed since new is a water pump - which I replaced once whilst on a journey across England to Wales.
What was your car?
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20.04.2010, 16:41
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| | Re: Oldtimers [classic cars] | Quote: | |  | | | Chek out some of the narow passroads and think about braking in turns on slippery cow shit. | | | | | you shouldn't be braking in turns
you do all your braking BEFORE you enter the curve
from entering the curve you should gradually and continually accelerate
this ensures that weight is pushed over the rear of the car to keep a better front-rear weight balance and max traction
actually this is true of modern day cars as it is for oldtimers
(with some exceptions as always...)
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20.04.2010, 16:42
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| | Re: Oldtimers [classic cars] | Quote: | |  | | | "Braking in turns" said it all.... in combination with the ABS idea: You are not really a driver, are you? | | | | | bugger - you beat me to it *argh*
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20.04.2010, 16:45
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| | Re: Oldtimers [classic cars]
well, we all know that good drivers rarely use that odd middle pedal. We much rather downshift. | 
20.04.2010, 17:11
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| | Re: Oldtimers [classic cars] | Quote: | |  | | | I can order all the parts I need for mine online. But the only thing it has needed since new is a water pump - which I replaced once whilst on a journey across England to Wales.
What was your car? | | | | | A Buggy based on a Renault R8 Gordini. Weight was only 600kg
I never would get an oldtimer again (but i dream of an AC Cobra with the 7liter engine), just because of not available parts and missing ABS brakes.
In my opinion oldtimers belong in a museum, if you want to drive you better get a new one with all gadgets which suits your taste. | 
20.04.2010, 17:30
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| | Re: Oldtimers [classic cars] | Quote: | |  | | | I never would get an oldtimer again (but i dream of an AC Cobra with the 7liter engine), just because of not available parts and missing ABS brakes. | | | | | Most AC Cobras you see are kit replicas, so I think you could sneak some ABS brakes in the parts mix | 
20.04.2010, 17:32
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| | Re: Oldtimers [classic cars] | Quote: | |  | | | In my opinion oldtimers belong in a museum, if you want to drive you better get a new one with all gadgets which suits your taste. | | | | | I would, but unfortunately do most new cars lack the beauty and emotional design many classics offer. And the new cars that do offer them are unfortunately out of my budget... | 
20.04.2010, 17:47
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| | Re: Oldtimers [classic cars] Why the dispute between car lovers and bikers?
Why?
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20.04.2010, 18:11
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| | Re: Oldtimers [classic cars] | Quote: |  | | | I would, but unfortunately do most new cars lack the beauty and emotional design many classics offer. And the new cars that do offer them are unfortunately out of my budget... | | | | | Have a look for a smart roadster. They could even rise in their value. | Quote: |  | | | Most AC Cobras you see are kit replicas, so I think you could sneak some ABS brakes in the parts mix | | | | | I know about those kit cars based on the ford mustang, they are not available with bigger motors than the 5 liter ones. If one, i need the one with the 7 liter engine just because of the sound.
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20.04.2010, 19:11
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| | Re: Oldtimers [classic cars]
passed a white one on Sunday evening - very nice
BMW engine... | Quote: | |  | | | I would, but unfortunately do most new cars lack the beauty and emotional design many classics offer. And the new cars that do offer them are unfortunately out of my budget...  | | | | | | 
20.04.2010, 20:44
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^^ How dare you mention a Smart Roadster in this thead...for shame.
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20.04.2010, 20:53
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| | Re: Oldtimers [classic cars] | Quote: | |  | | | .
In my opinion oldtimers belong in a museum, if you want to drive you better get a new one with all gadgets which suits your taste.
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I think the problem is that you are missing the points (again) made in this thread. Older cars have less gadgets and gizmos which means that you DRIVE the car, whereas with newer modern cars, the car sometimes drives you. I don't think anyone dispute the sense in safety features for the average driver. But then the average driver tends not to care about DRIVING, but more about how to get from A to B.
For real drivers there are less and less choices if you want something modern. There are still choices though:
- Ariel Atom
- Radical
- Caterham
- Lotus Elise / Exige
- X-bow
- Westfield
- Kit cars
(I will let you google them yourself)
although some of these can unfortunately not (easily) be registered in Switzerland. Some of these are however either (or both) expensive or a little extreme, which is why a lot of people start looking at older cars from the era before all the electronic devices (and weight) entered motoring.
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