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Emissions Test Waived for Car with "Personal Effects"?

Ok I am going through the whole deal with my car import.

I read somewhere on EF that your car emissions test is waived if your car is brought in with personal effects, as mine was. Is this true? I tried to tell them that at the StrassenVerkehrsamt, and they were kind of teetering and tottering but in my opinion they make it up as they go along and told me that I had to do it. I wanted proof, and they gave me the form attached that says Fahrzeugprufung und Zulassung below. Have any had experience with this? To get out of the emissions test? There is no way I am doing it if I don't have to.

I went to AMAG (audi) and they told me the test would be CHF 300 and that I had to do the emissions test. I don't buy it, since I only care about the law and if I don't have to do it then I am not doing it if my car is with "personal effects".

Now there is another form I also attached that is white.

It says: Selbstimport / Daten zur Fahrzeugprufung.

AMAG (audi guys) told me that they have to get a bunch of info on my car. That it would be about another CHF 300. Again, a bunch of BS. There's 10 silly little lines on the form to fill out. I am attaching it below.

There is also a green form I have to send to my insurance company (Winterthur is the only Swiss company that will insure out of country vehicles as far as I know) and they have to email a Versicherungsnachweis to the Strassenverkehrsamt. That's no biggie.

SO MY QUESTIONS:

1. Emissions test: do I FOR SURE have to do it if my car came with my personal effects? If not, can you show me a link or tell me from your personal experience?

2. Selbstimport / Daten zur Fahrzeugprufung: This is the white form attached. The AMAG (audi) guys seemed obsessed over headlights. What ths heck is this form? And why does AMAG want CHF 300? Can I get around it? I have dozens of forms from my car before and after I arrived here.

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SO MY QUESTIONS:

1. Emissions test: do I FOR SURE have to do it if my car came with my personal effects? If not, can you show me a link or tell me from your personal experience?

2. Selbstimport / Daten zur Fahrzeugprufung: This is the white form attached. The AMAG (audi) guys seemed obsessed over headlights. What ths heck is this form? And why does AMAG want CHF 300? Can I get around it? I have dozens of forms from my car before and after I arrived here.

Thank you.
you have to have the emission test sorted, and you have to carry the document with you at all time 'cos if you get stopped you have to produce it...

if you have a RHD car, you'll need to adjust (or worse, replace...) the headlamp so the beam points to the right side of the road, they will check them at the inspection and won;t give CH plates if you don't have them sorted
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Re: Emissions Test Waived for Car with "Personal Effects"?

To register any car exept oldtimers you need to have a exaust emmission test. This has nothing to do with your import of your car. This is for your registration in switzerland.

An abgaswartung with a booklet should not cost more than Fr.80.- you need this to have with the car al the time, every 2 year this test has to be renewed.
It is definetely a hoax because with the modern electronic fuel injection you can not adjust anything anyway, but it is the law.
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Re: Emissions Test Waived for Car with "Personal Effects"?

What the StrassenVerkehrsamt wouldn't accept 'someone on the EF said'... I don't believe it Mr Meldrew.

I don't think it matters how you get your car here, to register it the thing (in Zurich) it needs customs clearence from the Zoll, AbGas certificate (80 chuffs at Renault main agent), and Swiss insurance. I can't even book the MFK until I have all three (saving up for Swiss insurance). Are you sure that the 300 isn't for an engine was and homglosation cert too?
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Re: Emissions Test Waived for Car with "Personal Effects"?

what's the AbGas again? I have a few official books in my car already from when it was new.
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Re: Emissions Test Waived for Car with "Personal Effects"?

LOL.... that would be your emmisions test....the gas is a giveaway

They will also be looking for the homo' cert or E.C.o.C, if the garage is doing the abgas, engine wash and getting the homologation the 300 is about right, I was 289 (just checked) for my Laguna for all 3.
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Re: Emissions Test Waived for Car with "Personal Effects"?

happened to find this
http://www.pom.be.ch/site/index/pom_...schaftsgut.htm

Someone with better german should confirm but doesn't the

Fahrzeuge die von den Zollbehörden als Übersiedlungs-, Ausstattungs- oder Erbschaftsgut abgefertigt werden oder eine Bewilligung zur zollfreien Verwendung erhalten, sind von der Bestätigung der Abgas- und Geräuschvorschriften ausgenommen. Eine Befreiung von der Typengenehmigung ist nicht notwendig. Die Fahrzeuge können direkt beim Strassenverkehrsamt zur Prüfung angemeldet werden.


mean exactly what was asked? Probably different in different kantons, of course.
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Re: Emissions Test Waived for Car with "Personal Effects"?

ok here is the post I was talking about where BigBloke says you don't need it:

Registering a car in Basel - STRANGE Emission Test request from MFK!!!!

I fixed the link to the pdf http://tinyurl.com/32taf7u

But where it the law that I don't need the emissions test?

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Re: Emissions Test Waived for Car with "Personal Effects"?

There isn't one dude, and I think the post you are refering to is confused/inaccurate. Abgas tesing is compulsory, the examiners will not issue an MFK without it, I couldn't even book my car in for MFK without it. Also as you've already been told you must carry the Abgas-wartungsdokument with you in the car, the round sticker is not enough.
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Re: Emissions Test Waived for Car with "Personal Effects"?

the gas test is really simple - dont worry.....

o to your dealer for your car model and ask them for an abgas document, get them to stamp it, BUT not to do the test (the stamp is for the issuing dealer only). I paid 10chf for the document and stamp. AMAG tried to rip me off by saying that he test was very complicated and that only main dealersfor the car manufacturer can do it, eg i have a lexus and only lexus dealers can do the test. This sounded like complete BS to me and as I found out it is.

Once you have the document ANY garage will do the test for you, average price is around 80chf BUT if you are near basel, pop across the border to weil am rhein, just opposite the carhart store is a garage that will do the abgas test for about 20 euro, and it is with a swiss stamp. there is a big sign on the roof advertising this.
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Re: Emissions Test Waived for Car with "Personal Effects"?

THANKS! This is kind of like that guy that said Switzerland is like one big cartel. It is! But us westerners won't believe their bul*****! thanks!
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Re: Emissions Test Waived for Car with "Personal Effects"?

so the emissions test in Germany was accepted? I want to make sure from someone who did that (was it you) because I heard that maybe that won't work as the Swiss make up the rules as they go along. thanks!
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so the emissions test in Germany was accepted? I want to make sure from someone who did that (was it you) because I heard that maybe that won't work as the Swiss make up the rules as they go along. thanks!

do you mean me?? yes the abgas test performed in germany was accepted in switzerland because the garage that did it used a SWISS garage stamp.
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Re: Emissions Test Waived for Car with "Personal Effects"?

That sounds very dodgy!
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Re: Emissions Test Waived for Car with "Personal Effects"?

@ Rob1,

So your saying that you got a Swiss abgas form stamped by a Swiss garage which was left blank, then a German garage did the test. Where does the comeback lie if the Swissies run a check, that just sounds very dishonest to me.
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Re: Emissions Test Waived for Car with "Personal Effects"?

Head back to the mid 80s and the Swiss accelerated their emission reduction plan ahead of the rest of Europe. The standards only rejoined for the EURO III test.

That means there are a heap of late 80s to late 90s cars (and a few beyond) that never were imported to Switzerland. The end result is that the engine may not have the right marticulation documentation. This can be sourced from the importer to confirm that the engine reaches the standard in place at the time of the cars manufacture. This was probably the case of Ittingen.

However, not all engines will reach that standard, which was what happened in my case. I have a UK spec B200E engined Volvo 740 - this was a high output engine - and differed from the near identical engine in the 360.

The Volvo importer wasn't able to prove the engine matched emission standards for 1987 - and so I was refused. The car had passed an MFK the previous year so it could be run on Z-plates. But they would not allow a full import.
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So your saying that you got a Swiss abgas form stamped by a Swiss garage which was left blank, then a German garage did the test. Where does the comeback lie if the Swissies run a check, that just sounds very dishonest to me.
NO read it again......

the original abgas document i recieved from my lexus dealer, they put their stamp on it to say the document came from them, the actual abgas test was done by a garage in germany which is under license from a garage in switzerland. nothing dodgy or dishonest in that.

No need for any comeback concerns as the test is done in exactly the same way as 100 metres across the border in switzerland but at a fraction of the price.
swiss can check all they want as its the same.

if there was anything dody i highly doubt the garage concerned would have a billboard 10 metres long and 1.5 metres high advertising the fact.
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Re: Emissions Test Waived for Car with "Personal Effects"?

I did, and it doesn't read like your last post, no mention of a relationship between garages, in fact you said "any".

I'm actually reading my booklet is supplied by Renault CH, but it has to be stamped by the garage which carries out the test, you said " the booklet has a Swiss stamp" which wouldn't be the case if the test was carried out in Germany, rather misleading.

By the time the OP has bought the booklet, and had the hassle of driving from Zug to Weil am Rhein, and factoring in the fuel and lunch your total saving is about 20 chf, so all that fudging for 2 beers in Pickwicks...... is it worth it?
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who suggested going there?
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Re: Emissions Test Waived for Car with "Personal Effects"?

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Head back to the mid 80s and the Swiss accelerated their emission reduction plan ahead of the rest of Europe. The standards only rejoined for the EURO III test.

That means there are a heap of late 80s to late 90s cars (and a few beyond) that never were imported to Switzerland. The end result is that the engine may not have the right marticulation documentation. This can be sourced from the importer to confirm that the engine reaches the standard in place at the time of the cars manufacture. This was probably the case of Ittingen.

However, not all engines will reach that standard, which was what happened in my case. I have a UK spec B200E engined Volvo 740 - this was a high output engine - and differed from the near identical engine in the 360.

The Volvo importer wasn't able to prove the engine matched emission standards for 1987 - and so I was refused. The car had passed an MFK the previous year so it could be run on Z-plates. But they would not allow a full import.
I'd love to hear more about this. I am looking at importing (in fact I almost bought the car outright) a 1987 Alfa 75 turbo America. The Swiss version of this car, I believe, have a cat but this is an Italian version with none. The car is pretty much stock and the ecu is already programmed to take a catalytic converter with a lambda sensor. Essentially this car is identical to the Swiss version but it had no cat. How likely is is that i can get it registered without needing an individual approva, which is rumoured to cost a lot?
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