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If you get a new-ish VW, Audi, Seat or Skoda it should be equipped with VAG's excellent double-clutch automatic DSG gearbox... forget everything you thought you knew about Automatics.

Dual clutches are quite nice. Just need to get used to them.

Back on Jags, really like the XF and the 3.0l diesel is supposed to be quite good. There is a case to be made for diesels in Jags, if they can keep the noise levels down.
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The Hybrids that I've driven recharge when you're braking. Maybe the people doing 160kph with brake lights on in their RX450h are preparing for some silent urban stealth mode?
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Real class would by the passat, realising that spending more on somthing thatl spending more doesn't buy you anymore than an unbadged passat. The point of buying classy motors is that they look classy and not like just another version of lookalike german cruisers.
Apologies for incoherent English. Sent that on an iphone.

Would also like to thank Phos for the thread. I've realised now how much I've missed Jags since living here. Now looking for a nice old XJ.
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Old 03.05.2010, 17:25
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Old 12s are going for less than 10k CHF - or were last year. No idea on rust levels - but I would expect them to be pretty well maintained - knowing usual Swiss levels of maintenance.
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Old 03.05.2010, 17:51
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Re: Question for Jaguar owners

Phos,

Coming back to the Jaguar's. I put the question to the Jag Club here and most said that the diesel version is not bad but still has to improve on the sound it makes. Rest works the same - still expensive to maintain, insure, change parts or service.

Happy Car hunting & BR.
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Re: Question for Jaguar owners

I remember getting a lift back one evening in your S-Type Aash

The 2.7 diesel is a PSA/Ford unit. It is very smooth and not a bad unit. The problem it has is that it is just isn't on the pace compared with BMW and Mercedes.

The Range Rover V8 diesel could do with being transplanted into the Jag.
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I remember getting a lift back one evening in your S-Type Aash

The 2.7 diesel is a PSA/Ford unit. It is very smooth and not a bad unit. The problem it has is that it is just isn't on the pace compared with BMW and Mercedes.

The Range Rover V8 diesel could do with being transplanted into the Jag.
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Yep I know. I though have a S type benzin. Never driven a Diesel one. Just had put the question to the Jag club for Phos's sake and to acquire a bit more insight into the D version - thats all.

I cannot comment on comparative analysis between the Mercs, BMW's, Masarti's, Ferari's etc etc as am not very technically equipped in this kind of knowledge and leave to the better people on the forum for this.

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Yep I know. I though have a S type benzin. Never driven a Diesel one. Just had put the question to the Jag club for Phos's sake and to acquire a bit more insight into the D version - thats all.

I cannot comment on comparative analysis between the Mercs, BMW's, Masarti's, Ferari's etc etc as am not very technically equipped in this kind of knowledge and leave to the better people on the forum for this.

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I really don't like the sound of diesel, but also hate consuming lots of fuel. I remember a friend's jag that had 2 fuel tanks. I just thought perhaps the diesel offered some pluses in this regards.
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Re: Question for Jaguar owners

Phos,

Just got the answer from my Jaguar garage owner friend. Diesel is actually consuming 8 Litres/100 kms on road so not much of a difference I guess though I was told that the brochure or website shows otherwise - mktg gimmicks I presume.

But again just to sum it if you want to have a Jag - have one - it is not as bad as an experience as it may sound.

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Phos,

Just got the answer from my Jaguar garage owner friend. Diesel is actually consuming 8 Litres/100 kms on road so not much of a difference I guess though I was told that the brochure or website shows otherwise - mktg gimmicks I presume.

But again just to sum it if you want to have a Jag - have one - it is not as bad as an experience as it may sound.

BR
Thanks. Actually, 8L/100KM is not the worse. That is about on par with the majority of cars worth driving.

I was just thinking how it would make for a great weekend car. But if I won't be driving it very often, I could just as well get something more exotic, perhaps a more vintage model. Funny how one gets tempted to go farther then the original intent. Now I feel like I HAVE to have a Jag.
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Thanks. Actually, 8L/100KM is not the worse. That is about on par with the majority of cars worth driving.

I was just thinking how it would make for a great weekend car. But if I won't be driving it very often, I could just as well get something more exotic, perhaps a more vintage model. Funny how one gets tempted to go farther then the original intent. Now I feel like I HAVE to have a Jag.
Do that. I bought a new one because when I sort of was getting to buy it - I was told to be careful of the older (vintage) models as it spends more time at the garage then at home so I listened and went for a newer version & also as I tarvel quite a bit (still) I did not want my wifey to be taking care of my car problems - She was quite amused when I bought it but now she enjoys driving it too.

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Re: Question for Jaguar owners

The old XJ12s and/or Daimlers have to be approached with a knowing eye and extreme caution.

For a start you have an old engine - with 12 big cylinders, 12 spark plus, 12 ht-leads, a lot of oil and a lot of bits to go wrong!!

They are wonderful old cars - and many are very well looked after over here. Your best bet is to read some online guides for the cars and have a look at them - but be warned - they like a drink - with the 12 cylinder cars going through 20l/100km
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Thanks. Actually, 8L/100KM is not the worse. That is about on par with the majority of cars worth driving.

I was just thinking how it would make for a great weekend car. But if I won't be driving it very often, I could just as well get something more exotic, perhaps a more vintage model. Funny how one gets tempted to go farther then the original intent. Now I feel like I HAVE to have a Jag.
Go for it Phos. Switzerland is a perfect country for weekend cars. Great not too crowded roads (at least compared to UK), beautiful views etc.

And when it is mostly a weekend car, then fuel consumption matters less. If you don't need it to be too practical either, why don't you look at an XK (coupe or convertible) - which looks very Jaguar classic, but with relative modern technology. Don't know what your budget is, but there are plenty around - and no risk of diesel


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Just reading this thread about to bring my baby over to Zurich and wondered if anyone had found a reliable specialist rather than main stealer?

Heres a nice vid of it in action. (the guys slightly annoying being Dutch my car the S Type R is there)



On other news the misses wants a XKR might have to own shares in Shell at this rate
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There's an "Emil Frey" garage/dealership in Zurich Albisriederplatz-area. They sell (newer) Jag models and their mechanics are quite knowledgeable on maintenance.

Friendly people. Service/parts/upgrades take little time (our experience has always been same day); tires may need to be pre-ordered depending on the make (but lots of people do that here regardless of car model).
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I bought my XK from Huber Premium Cars in Knonau - they are excellent albeit expensive! Just bought some wheels and tires and CHF7'000 later the car still does NOT handle well in the snow . If you want to test drive it for a weekend I'll be happy to lend it to you. The performance is ok but imho more a girls than a lads car.
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I bought my XK from Huber Premium Cars in Knonau - they are excellent albeit expensive! Just bought some wheels and tires and CHF7'000 later the car still does NOT handle well in the snow . If you want to test drive it for a weekend I'll be happy to lend it to you. The performance is ok but imho more a girls than a lads car.
Did the garage re-align the steering after the new tires? Also after a few days of driving winter treads on Jag you may need to rebalance tires or ahem.. lower ball joints. Most garages will re-adjust at no cost if it's where you got the tires. Just a guess and my experience.

Do enlighten us on what a girls car is ! Is it talking back to you? Nagging? Wearing frilly pants?
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Did the garage re-align the steering after the new tires? Also after a few days of driving winter treads on Jag you may need to rebalance tires or ahem.. lower ball joints. Most garages will re-adjust at no cost if it's where you got the tires. Just a guess and my experience.

Do enlighten us on what a girls car is ! Is it talking back to you? Nagging? Wearing frilly pants?
Yes they did, but I had to go back again..

As a matter of fact "he-Jeremy-very-gay" does complain an awful lot, seriously annoying beeping issues... Also, inside it is a really tight squeeze and if you are taller than 1.8m forget it!

Men's cars: Lamborghini, Ferrari, Zonda, no nonsense just pure pleasure...
Girls cars: Bugatti, McLaren, Keating, what more can I say...

Just do not feel comfortable on the public roads in the "Men's cars" hanger play-time now that is another story all together
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Well it was a XK"R" my GF wanted, TBH I'm very interested in comparing in to the S Type R, which is mental. So I might take you up on the XK spin when I get her over.

I described the STR to a previous colleague as a volcano waiting to pop, one false move and you're in a ditch.

I'm 1.87 so maybe it's too small for me? Oh well gone are the visions of a XKR (with a semi race exhaust) and Swiss alpine passes!

BTW RWD and snow = bad combination. Leave it in the garage until the summer. Same here with the STR in Wales.
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