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Feedback on a 2007 Jeep Commander 4.7 V8 Sport

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I have been planning on purchasing a car and I have been doing a lot of research. I am very close to making up my mind on buying a 2007 Jeep Commander 4.7 V8 Sport, but first I like to know if you guys have any positive/negative feedback on this vehicle. I have read many contracting reviews, some say very good things about it, while others just completely trash it. So am turning to you for your advice before I finally make a decision.
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Re: Feedback on a 2007 Jeep Commander 4.7 V8 Sport

kevlegs, your thread is here!!

I had a jeep as a co. car a few years back, I can understand why people slate them, and why people love them, a lot of car for the money, all the toys etc but the materials they are made of look and feel cheap (like most american cars) Its also going to be pretty thirsty and cost quite a bit in tax. Mine was a 5.0l v8 iirc and I used to get about 12mpg round town!!! loads of torque and fun
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Re: Feedback on a 2007 Jeep Commander 4.7 V8 Sport

As an automotive professional, I have seen a few of these vehicles. my thoughts about them are: "built to a budget near bankruptcy" and "planned obsolecence". My advice is : RUN. Run far away. I could go on and on about technical details, but it is just not a good vehicle. It will go anywhere you point it and runs well, but these vehicles make mechanics drool when they see them. The build quality is horrible. It WILL break down, and break down often.
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Re: Feedback on a 2007 Jeep Commander 4.7 V8 Sport

I agree with the points already made.

I had a look at a 300cc a few years back and was horrified by the poor quality and fit of the interior - I can't imagine the Commander would be any better.

I also spent some time with the new Wrangler when it came out - and was amazed how cheap they could make a car feel.

They do however offer plenty of metal for your money. The engine should be reasonably reliable considering it is a fairly old design - and the are well regarded if you need to tow something heavy.

The question we should be asking, is what is your budget? and what is your requirement?
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Re: Feedback on a 2007 Jeep Commander 4.7 V8 Sport

the question should be - what is your budget for fuel and how often do you want to stop?

I had a Grand Cherokee years ago and it would need fuelling up a second time before getting to Zurich from Rotterdam. I've never experienced anything so thirsty.

A V8 is fun though. No matter how quickly it depreciates and is hard to sell onto anyone else
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Re: Feedback on a 2007 Jeep Commander 4.7 V8 Sport

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I had a Grand Cherokee years ago and it would need fuelling up a second time before getting to Zurich from Rotterdam.
Could not resist...

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I am very close to making up my mind on buying a 2007 Jeep Commander 4.7 V8 Sport, but first I like to know if you guys have any positive/negative feedback on this vehicle.
Well aside from the probable groan inviting question of why the F anyone would still be seriously contemplating a 4.7 V8 SUV in this day & age, I do know someone who had one & it is without doubt the ugliest & shoddiest Jeep I've ever been in. He got shot of it within a year.

Each to there own and all, but if you are set on it, then at least have a glance at the 3.0 V6 Diesel version.
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Re: Feedback on a 2007 Jeep Commander 4.7 V8 Sport

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the question should be - what is your budget for fuel and how often do you want to stop?

I had a Grand Cherokee years ago and it would need fuelling up a second time before getting to Zurich from Rotterdam. I've never experienced anything so thirsty.

A V8 is fun though. No matter how quickly it depreciates and is hard to sell onto anyone else

I wont be driving it to work everyday, maybe once or twice a week (aarau-zug). Its more for long weekend trips, and also to take my kid around and not have to depend late night train schedule during the weekend (it’s a little uncomfortable when you have kids, specially on weekends). But then again, those weekend trips can turn up very costly if they are as thirsty as you say. I can afford something that’s not too fuel economic, but if am gonna have to fill up the tank on every trip from arrau to zurich then that will be too much for me.
Also, am planning on buying it to keep it for a good while. But if they really tend to break down regularly and the quality is as bad as maconp11 points out, then this might not be the vehicle for me after all.

Am gonna have to keep researching. But the chances of me getting the commander are not looking good…J

Thanks all…
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Re: Feedback on a 2007 Jeep Commander 4.7 V8 Sport

In my experience - I have bought to excellent quality cars (for practical purposes) in Switzerland.

A 1994 Merc E280 Estate - which was extremely comfortable, enough toys and capable of dealing with everything I threw at it.

A 1989 BMW 525 - which in just over 12mths has covered 20,000km - without a problem - including 9000km on a 5 week round trip to Morocco.

If you don't want to throw a lot of cash at a car - dig around for an older Merc or BMW - get one from a small local garage that you trust - and get it with a fresh MFK and you should be all right.

2 that I would recommend - in Graubunden though are - Pennella (Ringstrasse Chur); and FunfDorfer, Zizers.
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Jeep Commander - Feedback

I would like to buy a JEEP commander (Year 2006 - 2009). Anyone willing to share any experience of having one? Specially on the reliability issues.. I am looking at the 3.0 CRD Limited model.

I know there are loads of car experts here on the EF

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Re: Jeep Commander - Feedback

Engine is from Mercedes - so reliable.

Cheap to buy.

It is however HUGE and you may get the normal "save the kitten" brigade sugggesting you choose mobility or a pair of goat hair sandles instead.

If you really do insist on not buying cardigans and existing on diet more varied than lentils - I would advise reading the relevant reviewed on:
www.parkers.co.uk
www.honestjohn.co.uk
www.whatcar.com
www.autocar.co.uk
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Re: Jeep Commander - Feedback

Too big and there are a lot better options out there. If you choose to drive a 2.5 tonn SUV it should be all road ie constant 4wd, normal 4wd is pretty much useless here unless you get stuck in snow. I have a Nissan Navara which I need for work, with winter conditions and snow I am constantly in and out of 4wd to prevent windup in the transmission. The problem here is the Swiss are too efficient at clearing away snow so you get slippery patches which 4wd helps but then larger areas not slippery which cause wind up in the transmission. This is particularly bad in car parks which require 4wd then turn onto a road that is clean, in this situation you have windup in 20m of travel which longterm will damage the transmission.
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Too big and there are a lot better options out there. If you choose to drive a 2.5 tonn SUV it should be all road ie constant 4wd, normal 4wd is pretty much useless here unless you get stuck in snow. I have a Nissan Navara which I need for work, with winter conditions and snow I am constantly in and out of 4wd to prevent windup in the transmission. The problem here is the Swiss are too efficient at clearing away snow so you get slippery patches which 4wd helps but then larger areas not slippery which cause wind up in the transmission. This is particularly bad in car parks which require 4wd then turn onto a road that is clean, in this situation you have windup in 20m of travel which longterm will damage the transmission.
Are you saying the Navara doesn't have a centre diff????

The Nissan X-Trail did - although electronically controlled. In 4wd mode (a flick of dial on the dash) it would 57/43 fixed split the torque. However if it sensed "wind-up" it would re-shuffle the torque as required.
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Too big
It's about the same size as a BMW X5, VW Touareg or Porsche Cayenne and as we all know there are plenty of those on the roads here, so size should be manageable.

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...which are?

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If you choose to drive a 2.5 tonn SUV it should be all road ie constant 4wd, normal 4wd is pretty much useless here unless you get stuck in snow. I have a Nissan Navara which I need for work, with winter conditions and snow I am constantly in and out of 4wd to prevent windup in the transmission.
The Commander has full-time AWD, either Quadra-Trac or Quadra-Drive AFAIK.
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Re: Jeep Commander - Feedback

Back in the day, I had a Jeep Wrangler that I drove for 140,000 miles (about 225,000 km)

The only maintenance items that I ever had was that I had to change some suspension bushings at about 100,000 miles and a new battery, because the heat in Arizona eventually killed the original one.

We also had a Grand Cherokee 4x4 before that an I don't recall ever having any trouble with it either.

Don't know what the 4WD selector is like in the new ones, but if it's selectable it probably has a setting for 4 hi all the time or shift on the fly to take it out of 4wd after you get out of the car park and onto clear streets.

I actually like the selectable setups, because when you can manually select the configuration you need, it will typically result in fuel savings.

Only you can decide if it's too big or not.
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I actually like the selectable setups, because when you can manually select the configuration you need, it will typically result in fuel savings.

Only you can decide if it's too big or not.
Commander has an official figure of just 11l/100km for the diesel

Manually selected or not, fuel bills will be high.

I like the styling and the generally good history of Jeeps (in terms of maintenance costs - I know a few people who swear by them as tow-cars) BUT I'd be far more tempted to sink my money into an X3 2.0D or X5 3.0D (depending on budget and requirements).
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Re: Jeep Commander - Feedback

I had the 04 grand cherokee. was in the shop more than on the road.
Loved driving it but 12-13L /100km constant issue, worthless in the snow unless changing the tires to proper winter (they come with all terrain).

All in all fantastic car but I wouldnt buy it again as it is a mercedes engine and parts/maintenance is spendy
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Commander has an official figure of just 11l/100km for the diesel

Manually selected or not, fuel bills will be high.

I like the styling and the generally good history of Jeeps (in terms of maintenance costs - I know a few people who swear by them as tow-cars) BUT I'd be far more tempted to sink my money into an X3 2.0D or X5 3.0D (depending on budget and requirements).
I agree, fuel bills will be high on any AWD, and the bigger it is, the worse the fuel economy. For what it's worth, My wife currently has a BMW X3 and the economy is only about 10L/100km, so it's not exactly great. Her previous car was an X5 and it was worse. Over the years, we've also had more maintenance costs with BMW's as a whole than with pretty much anything else that we've owned, but she loves them!

The Jeeps were by far the most reliable, and with everything factored in, they were overall the cheapest 4WD cars I've ever owned.

Edit: I just saw somebody else's post and it reminded my about the mercedes engine. My experience is pre-mercedes, back when they were owned by chrysler. might be different now, I don't know.
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I would like to buy a JEEP commander (Year 2006 - 2009). Anyone willing to share any experience of having one? Specially on the reliability issues.. I am looking at the 3.0 CRD Limited model.

I know there are loads of car experts here on the EF
Apart from useful Dodgyken's answer which gave links to various sites which have reviews, exactly how useful is it for one or two people on here to say that they had one and it was reliable or it wasn't?

Surely you'd be better on a 4 x 4 forum?

I say this as I've found that peoples' experiences with cars on this forum, especially with regard to reliability, don't seem match independent comparative surveys.
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Are you saying the Navara doesn't have a centre diff????

The Nissan X-Trail did - although electronically controlled. In 4wd mode (a flick of dial on the dash) it would 57/43 fixed split the torque. However if it sensed "wind-up" it would re-shuffle the torque as required.
I really should check this out, all I know is it is doing a tight turn from a snow covered carpark onto a clearish bitumen road almost brings it to a grinding halt and 4wd will not disengage without reversing or slipping a wheel back into the snow. I spent 20 years in the desert working for a company with always in 4wd policy (toyota landcuisers) speed limited to 80kph, shocking windup at times but really caused no problems until 150/180k kms, this feels exactly the same.

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Commander has an official figure of just 11l/100km for the diesel

Manually selected or not, fuel bills will be high.

I like the styling and the generally good history of Jeeps (in terms of maintenance costs - I know a few people who swear by them as tow-cars) BUT I'd be far more tempted to sink my money into an X3 2.0D or X5 3.0D (depending on budget and requirements).
I did not make a recommendation of something I don't have personal experience with, an audi Q7 is another option. We have a Merc Ml400cdi 2002, has been a good car but electronic bits and trim are near the end of their life. Okay on fuel (10s on a trip and 13.5 short running) given it's weight and aerodynamics like your average fridge but pull onto a freeway and slap it hard it pulls solidly to 180kph (plus the sound of a twin turbo V8). We will drive it till the wheels fall off it is worth nothing now but still has the feel of the Chf125k car it was in it's day. Depreciation is a point to note on cars like this, the first owner dropped Chf85k in 3.5 years and 45k.kms, we have dropped Chf30k in 8years and 120k.kms so not really too expensive motoring for us in that time.
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