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Old 16.09.2010, 20:19
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It might be worth noting that not all cars are cheaper in Germany. In fact neither are car parts. I have had on occasion to compare prices for parts ordered from main dealers in both Germany and Switzerland - the Swiss dealer was cheaper - and able to get the part quicker.

The latter I couldn't understand as it should make no difference at all if it comes from the central european store - which is where the part would have come from.

Additionally I recently got a quote for a few bits from the UK and Switzerland - the Swiss price was 510chf all inclusive - the UK was £430 + fitting
About " the Swiss dealer was cheaper - and able to get the part quicker."

It is weird and not logical. When I need new parts for my old Porsche I can get them faster from a dealer in Texas than from Stuttgart that is an hour or so up the road from me. & cheaper....
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Old 16.09.2010, 22:56
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I saved over 10 000 chf from an equivalent car here in Switzerland and my car came with a 4yr warranty from Audi!
Was this a new car? The 4 year warranty sounds great - but I thought the Audi warranty was 3 year in CH and 2 year elsewhere in Europe?

(in fact the salesmen in the last dealer I visited especially made a big show about the warranty being longer in CH, hence providing some justification for the higher prices).
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Old 17.09.2010, 09:08
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About " the Swiss dealer was cheaper - and able to get the part quicker."

It is weird and not logical. When I need new parts for my old Porsche I can get them faster from a dealer in Texas than from Stuttgart that is an hour or so up the road from me. & cheaper....
And it was an "odd" part that they wouldn't have from stock. It was a sump guard for a BMW 5 series. They were original OEM parts on the cars sold in South Africa - which meant that the part existed in the stock system. Neither dealer would have had one in stock - which meant ordering from the central stock system.

Even allowing for differences in MWST I still couldn't work out why the Swiss dealer was cheaper. I think it was about 30chf cheaper after the tax difference.
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Cool.. How much they charge you for it? It can happens, that the benefit from buying a middle priced car will be eaten by the middleman.
They charge 2% of the final price. They pay for the car in Germany and also pay the Swiss customs and then get the german vat back. You just pay the final bill.

Its only worth doing right now because of the exchange rate, if the rate goes past 1.55, I wouldn't bother.
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Was this a new car? The 4 year warranty sounds great - but I thought the Audi warranty was 3 year in CH and 2 year elsewhere in Europe?

(in fact the salesmen in the last dealer I visited especially made a big show about the warranty being longer in CH, hence providing some justification for the higher prices).
All Audi warranties are 3 years std in Europe. You can pay and get an extra 1 or 2 yrs, but its expensive.

Car was from an Audi employee so had extra warranty as standard.
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That service from Autociel.ch sounds good - will check it out. I had spotted them before but its good to hear from someone who has used them.

Unrelated, the warranty situation for new Audis at the moment however appears to be 5 years for Switzerland (3 years standard, plus a free 2 year extension - presumably to justify the higher cost).

Its only 2 years in the rest of Europe (e.g. see the German Audi site), which does seem a bit short given what other manufacturers are doing.

But the 5 vs 2 does make it a little harder to justify buying outside CH - which is presumably exactly why they have done it...!
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They charge 2% of the final price. They pay for the car in Germany and also pay the Swiss customs and then get the german vat back. You just pay the final bill.

Its only worth doing right now because of the exchange rate, if the rate goes past 1.55, I wouldn't bother.
Actually it is not true at least now -((
They answered to me - and they want 9% instead of 2 %, which is big difference -(
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Actually it is not true at least now -((
They answered to me - and they want 9% instead of 2 %, which is big difference -(
That sounds about right, 9% as if you take 2% on a 50k motor car, this is the princely sum of Chf 1000.--

And they have to finbance the whole deal it sounds, pay for the car, pay import duties await the return of German VAT, arrange delivery, etc etc, even 9% is not so excessive
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That sounds about right, 9% as if you take 2% on a 50k motor car, this is the princely sum of Chf 1000.--

And they have to finbance the whole deal it sounds, pay for the car, pay import duties await the return of German VAT, arrange delivery, etc etc, even 9% is not so excessive
I think the 2% relates to the import process, not financing and taking commercial risk. For just arranging the delivery and completing the paperwork for import, that doesn't sound too bad to me.
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There were additional costs - I paid 1500 chf to have the car put on a transporter as I did not want it driven.

Also there are an additional 800 chf to cover all expenses. So for me total additional costs came to around 4000 chf, but even with this added to the final cost of car - I saved over 10 000 chf from buying an equivalent Swiss car with lower spec.

Maybe now they have put their prices up as the exchange rate is so good!

Hope this helps.
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Old 22.09.2010, 19:36
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Re: importing car from Germany...Possible?

I don't see why not, but I wouldn't say Germany is any cheaper. It depends on the seller, and the car. The swiss are dying to sell their cars though before winter snow hits when they can't. We just bought a honda CR-V for 6,000 CHF and it's great. Everywhere I look they have a used car for sale. Try searching for some cars on the internet for sale in Switzerland/Germany, I'm sure you'll find something. People selling cars over the internet are also aware of possibly having to ship the car.
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Re: importing car from Germany...Possible?

Hi all.

At regular intervals here on English Forum there seems to be discussions regarding the importing of cars into Switzerland. I would be interested to know if anyone would like to use the service we can offer. We can source most LHD cars directly from the factory. It could mean that you would have to order your car and wait until it is ready. This is the case often when you go to the dealer.

However, we also can sometimes track down new unregistered vehicles which obviously can be delivered much more quickly! All the vehicles are priced in British Pounds, the price is agreed on contract so the exchange rate is set. Due to the poor exchange rate at the moment there does seem to be quite substantial discounts to be had. If anyone is interested please pm me, you can do your own research in Switzerland on the price of the vehicle you are interested in and then we can give you a quote and you can see what sort of saving you could make. It would be helpful to me if you can tell me make, model, engine size and any extras you would like so that we can get you a relevant quote. I hope this is of interest to one or two of you. Simon
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Re: importing car from Germany...Possible?

question related to this thread... if I look at the car in mobile.de, and more than 90% of them has "VAT not reclaimable", does it mean that I will pay taxes twice (german & swiss)? Or is it that just this car dealer does not substract VAT from price himself, but it still can be reclaimed via some standard process?
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Old 21.01.2011, 22:56
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Re: importing car from Germany...Possible?

It is some paperwork for the companies that do offer it, if it states VAT not reclaimable then you would pay the 19% plus the Swiss 8% and I think another 4% because it is a car, so look for only the VAT reclaimable deals.
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I think I can help here. Last month I imported an Audi from Germany. I used a Swiss company called autociel.ch and they spoke excellent english. They handled all paperwork and also collected the car from Germany and brought it to my apartment. It was a very easy process.

I just looked on line mobile.de and chose my car from a main Audi dealer and then agreed a price in euros and then autociel.ch took over. They also paid for the car in euros and then I paid them in chf. I got a great rate 1.34. But now its even better.

I saved over 10 000 chf from an equivalent car here in Switzerland and my car came with a 4yr warranty from Audi!
Thank you! Great post!
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It's absolutely no problem, and the car dealers close to the border are happy to do the export/import paperwork for you. You only have to get it through the initial inspection and registration in Switzerland yourself (takes about 3hours).
Sounds great. Could you recommend a dealer close to the swiss border? Thanks in advance. R. Pai
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Cool.. How much they charge you for it? It can happens, that the benefit from buying a middle priced car will be eaten by the middleman.
My colleague bought AUDI from Germany and he had great difficulties with dealer. Dealer wanted to have his share of the vat refund. He said there is so much extra work that he needs also something. In the end he paid all the taxes back. But it took time and lots of negotiations. So, make sure you have some written documents that you get your VAT back... Otherwise you might not save anything..
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My colleague bought AUDI from Germany and he had great difficulties with dealer. Dealer wanted to have his share of the vat refund. He said there is so much extra work that he needs also something. In the end he paid all the taxes back. But it took time and lots of negotiations. So, make sure you have some written documents that you get your VAT back... Otherwise you might not save anything..
Sounds like a very dodgy dealer and one that is close to the law! LOL I'm sure customs and excise would be keen to know that they intended to make more profit by cheating on their tax, the dealer was trying it on it's hardly any extra work at all.

Personally I'd have told them to P*ss off and gone somewhere else, shows they are underhand and I hope your friend doesn't have any faults with the car and have to return there.
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It's absolutely no problem, and the car dealers close to the border are happy to do the export/import paperwork for you. You only have to get it through the initial inspection and registration in Switzerland yourself (takes about 3hours).
Would appreciate a couple of telephone numbers I could call. I am interested in buying a new VW Passat and bring it to Switzerland. Thanks in advance. R. Pai
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Re: importng car from Germany...Possible?

I am also keen on importing a new VW Passat/Golf. Pai, did you get hold of some dealers contact info ?


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Would appreciate a couple of telephone numbers I could call. I am interested in buying a new VW Passat and bring it to Switzerland. Thanks in advance. R. Pai
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