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Is there a way to make a complain after receiving a speeding ticket?

Hi everyone,

I know the answer to that question is probably "no," but I am shocked after having received a few tickets for speeding (all at once.) Speed limit was 50km/h, and once I was going 56km/h and the next time I was going 58km/h.

Tickets are 40 and 120CHF respectively, and I am shocked. If you don't have one of those digital speedometers, how precisely can you know how fast you are going? Is there a way to claim that every car can be tunned slightly different and that 6km/h is not enough of a margin? In Spain, where I come from, there is 10km/h margin above the speed limit, but here it seems to be lower and not even consistent (in one ticket as 2km/h which is ridiculous, and on the other one as 5km/h.) It was always with a rented car, in different cantons and dates. I am not registered in CH yet.

Is there a way I can get out of these tickets? (being too optimistic here, of course.) And yes, of course, I have learnt my lessons: from now on I will always be 10km/h below the speed limit to be sure!

Sorry for all the ranting...
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Old 05.07.2010, 15:57
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Re: Is there a way to make a complain after receiving a speeding ticket?

Nah, all cars actually register under the limit by quite a bit. They're tested to do that, so if your car's legal, it would probably have read 59 and 62 respectively. You broke the law, now pay the piper.
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Re: Is there a way to make a complain after receiving a speeding ticket?

What do you wish to complaint about? About the amount that you were fined, or because you were over the limit?
There is no tolerance for speeding in CH. You simply have to learn and know that over the limit is over the limit, and stick to the traffic signs/rules. You will quickly get used to it.
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Re: Is there a way to make a complain after receiving a speeding ticket?

Welcolme to Switzerland where there is no tolerance on speeding. Lots of threads on the forum. Don't get caught 25 KPH over the limit (one month loss of license) or 35 KPH (3 months loss of license). What is your appeal, you were speeding!!! Smile, pay up and move on and think of it as a lesson.
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Re: Is there a way to make a complain after receiving a speeding ticket?

You could have a look at this Thread and see if there is anything there.
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Re: Is there a way to make a complain after receiving a speeding ticket?

You can complain here. It may relieve your frustration but it will not get you off the fines
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Old 05.07.2010, 16:06
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Is there a way I can get out of these tickets? (being too optimistic here, of course.) And yes, of course, I have learnt my lessons: from now on I will always be 10km/h below the speed limit to be sure!

Sorry for all the ranting...
forget about it. Pay and consider yourself happy. Wise decision with the 10kmph below limit. Keep on.
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Nah, all cars actually register under the limit by quite a bit. They're tested to do that, so if your car's legal, it would probably have read 59 and 62 respectively. You broke the law, now pay the piper.

think you mean over

yes all car's speedo's read over your actual speed, on top of that the swiss do add a tolerance of around 10% iirc, at least they did on both of mine, so if your actually going 50kph on your gps, they will do you for 45kph, but your speedo would be showing 55kph.

so if you say you where done at 56 and 58 then your car speedo would have been saying way over 60kph and closer tp 70kph, so no real excuse for a 50kph zone.

pay the fines and buy a gps with speed alert, job done.
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Re: Is there a way to make a complain after receiving a speeding ticket?

Learn to use the speedometer.

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Old 05.07.2010, 16:51
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think you mean over

yes all car's speedo's read over your actual speed, on top of that the swiss do add a tolerance of around 10% iirc, at least they did on both of mine, so if your actually going 50kph on your gps, they will do you for 45kph, but your speedo would be showing 55kph.

so if you say you where done at 56 and 58 then your car speedo would have been saying way over 60kph and closer tp 70kph, so no real excuse for a 50kph zone.

pay the fines and buy a gps with speed alert, job done.
yeah....over...I meant that
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Old 05.07.2010, 17:06
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Re: Is there a way to make a complain after receiving a speeding ticket?

There's a few of us on here have paid 40 CHF for 1 kmph over .
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Hi everyone,

I know the answer to that question is probably "no," but I am shocked after having received a few tickets for speeding (all at once.) Speed limit was 50km/h, and once I was going 56km/h and the next time I was going 58km/h.

Tickets are 40 and 120CHF respectively, and I am shocked. If you don't have one of those digital speedometers, how precisely can you know how fast you are going? Is there a way to claim that every car can be tunned slightly different and that 6km/h is not enough of a margin? In Spain, where I come from, there is 10km/h margin above the speed limit, but here it seems to be lower and not even consistent (in one ticket as 2km/h which is ridiculous, and on the other one as 5km/h.) It was always with a rented car, in different cantons and dates. I am not registered in CH yet.

Is there a way I can get out of these tickets? (being too optimistic here, of course.) And yes, of course, I have learnt my lessons: from now on I will always be 10km/h below the speed limit to be sure!

Sorry for all the ranting...
I bet you have a PhD too...
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think you mean over

yes all car's speedo's read over your actual speed, on top of that the swiss do add a tolerance of around 10% iirc, at least they did on both of mine, so if your actually going 50kph on your gps, they will do you for 45kph, but your speedo would be showing 55kph.
It's not 10%, it's 6 kph over they reduce the speed by, irrespective if it's a 50 limit or 120 limit. The difference is there is no tolerance at 50 whereas there is at 120.

When it says 50 they actually mean it and base your speed on this. It is your speed, minus 6 = your actual speed, under 50 = ok, on 50 = ok, over 50 = you pay !

At 120 on the highways, they don't start measuring under 130, so up to 135 you are ok but over this, its your speedminus 6, minus 120 which equals yopur excess and amount of payment.

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It's not 10%, it's 6 kph over they reduce the speed by, irrespective if it's a 50 limit or 120 limit. The difference is there is no tolerance at 50 whereas there is at 120.

When it says 50 they actually mean it and base your speed on this. It is your spped, minus 6 = your actual sped, under 50 = ok, on 50 = ok, over 50 = you pay !

At 120 on the highways, they don't start measuring under 130, so up to 13 you are ok but over this, its your speedminus 6, minus 120 which equals yopur excess and amount of payment.

I'll bow to your knowledge, I've not been silly enough to be caught on a motorway (yet) only the 50 limit outside work, twice, doh
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At 120 on the highways, they don't start measuring under 130, so up to 13 you are ok but over this, its your speedminus 6, minus 120 which equals yopur excess and amount of payment.
So explain how I got a ticket for 127kmh in a 120kmh zone on the motorway

20chf for 1kmh!
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And yes, of course, I have learnt my lessons: from now on I will always be 10km/h below the speed limit to be sure!
PLEASE NO! It is worse when someone is doing 40 in a 50 zone - 50 in a 60 zone - 90 in a 100 zone etc....
Especially if you are BEHIND the person driving slow....... torture!!!

Just look at your speedometer every once and a while and make sure you are doing the limit.
Some other points:
Remember to look in your mirrors every once and a while and know what is going on behind you.
Only use the LEFT LANE on the highway when you want to pass.
When you want to turn left or right remember to signal with your indicators.

Just a few things that came to mind which irk me about other drivers when you mentioned you were going to drive 10km less than the speed limit from now on...
I'm not saying you are a bad driver or do not already follow these practices already - Just some friendly reminders to you and ALL reading this thread.

Thanks
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Old 05.07.2010, 17:51
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so if your actually going 50kph on your gps, they will do you for 45kph, but your speedo would be showing 55kph.
You seem to know a bit about these sorts of things. So I have noticed that my TomTom device reports around 10% less than what my car's speedo actually reports (around 130 km/h on my car shows 120 km/h on the GPS device, etc.). This seems consistent regardless of car I drive around Europe (inc. the UK).

However when I install the United States/Canada maps on the device and drive in North America, it is exact... the car speedo reports exactly what TomTom reports--literally to the nearest mile per hour (or km/h in Canada ). I'm assuming North American cars are different or the TomTom device is programmed to report a figure around 10% less of the actual speed/velocity of the car with this map?!

Food for thought. I just found it interesting.
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PLEASE NO! It is worse when someone is doing 40 in a 50 zone - 50 in a 60 zone - 90 in a 100 zone etc....
Especially if you are BEHIND the person driving slow....... torture!!!

Just look at your speedometer every once and a while and make sure you are doing the limit.
Some other points:
Remember to look in your mirrors every once and a while and know what is going on behind you.
Only use the LEFT LANE on the highway when you want to pass.
When you want to turn left or right remember to signal with your indicators.

Just a few things that came to mind which irk me about other drivers when you mentioned you were going to drive 10km less than the speed limit from now on...
I'm not saying you are a bad driver or do not already follow these practices already - Just some friendly reminders to you and ALL reading this thread.

Thanks
i follow the same tactic. drive 10kph below limit (actually 20kph when accuracy of meter is taken into account).

make sure you drive on the left lane, perhaps level with a slow moving truck to help ensure that nobody else can inadvertently break the speeding limit.
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