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In Japan when the Toyota I bought wasn't ready they gave me a car to drive. The car I bought wasn't even expensive, nothing flash. If there is a delay in delivery, I would expect a solution.
That's what the dealer exactly told me. They usually give you the substitute vehicle for the required waiting period, so no sweat there. Just the lease or purchase moves over to another month or so.
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Re: BMW wow...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/dri...cle7105825.ece

Enjoy!
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Re: BMW wow...

I would say that was a good opinion of the vehicle from Jeremy Clarkson.
I didn't even realise that 4 WD would be an option.

As I said before, I really cannot see the point of this vehicle and I am not that keen on the 1 series either; I'd opt rather for the VW Golf or Audi A3.
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Old 13.10.2010, 19:41
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Re: BMW wow...

Another BMW wow...
So I returned from the garage after I signed the contract very happy and with smile on my face carrying this feeling of importance and mission accomplished. I know they have never been the cheapest guys around but professionalism of the staff was stunning. I was introduced to the whole family of car dealers including mechanics with whom I will develop long term customer relationship. The guy explained to me in EN every detail in the contract and showed me around the garage. Then we went through all the steering and control navi details summer tyres storage section and so on and so forth. I learnt few new words in DE and can get peaceful sleep knowing that I'll have a support crew behind me in the same town. He forgot to organise the manual in EN but promised to drop it off in the letter box still this week. I mentioned that I can find it on the web in PDF format but he said no no no he will bring it to me as part of the agreement. Wow! I love Bayerische Motoren Werke
The painful part i.e. bills will come later but that's another story...
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Re: BMW wow...

I love paying a little extra but getting that incredible service. when I got my Jeep which want cheap either the service I got was horrible and many arguments followed. The guy didnt even know how to open the glass part of the trunk....so I showed him. After I bought and 4 weeks later picked up (used car) I havent heard back from them so all is good. The new garage is spendy but the service and the work is top notch.

Have fun with the new ride!!!!
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Yes.

They made small children cry due to their ugliness and utter pointlessness.
Nope, that is the X6.

(says the guy that has owned a 330xiT, 530xiT, 540i, and soon a 535xiT.)
(um, Ok, my wife has paid for most of them. )
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Re: BMW wow...

Yikes!
I guess, I stand corrected.
SO the X1 is the lesser sequel to the X6. Maybe BMW should stop making SAVs as they call them.

BTW, there are WAY TO MANY Trucks (aka SUVs) in my country.
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Old 13.10.2010, 20:08
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Nope, that is the X6.

(says the guy that has owned a 330xiT, 530xiT, 540i, and soon a 535xiT.)
(um, Ok, my wife has paid for most of them. )
All these X1, X3, X5 & X6, they all share one same thing in common i.e. they are bloody uncomfortable on the city roads to drive them here. I like their look but when test driven they make you choke for breath. Add a diesel engine version and you will jump with disgust in the rythm of the noise from under the bonnet. My wife did. I suppose if you go offroad they'll make more sense...

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I do not care about cars at all
and i don't know why I read this whole thread..

am studying for exams and have exam wastetime dementia


but I don't like beamers either - there kept on topic
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I would say that was a good opinion of the vehicle from Jeremy Clarkson.
I didn't even realise that 4 WD would be an option.

As I said before, I really cannot see the point of this vehicle and I am not that keen on the 1 series either; I'd opt rather for the VW Golf or Audi A3.
Ok, whilst Mr. Clarkson is rather entertaining on TV and a pretty funny writer, his car reviews should always be taken with a huge pinch of salt. After all he is somewhat opinionated.

I for one actually see the point of the X1. Some people prefer the slightly elevated driving position and the 4 wheel drive, but do not want a full fat SUV.

Can I suggest the what car review as a more objective source (4 stars out of 5)

http://www.whatcar.com/car-reviews/b...ummary/25900-3

PS the X1 is not actually based on the 1 series but the 3 series.
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Old 16.10.2010, 21:02
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Re: BMW wow...

There have been debates ongoing on the topic... Just a question on cons and pros of using unleaded vs super, V-Power for beamer? Which one makes more sense?

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Old 16.10.2010, 21:21
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Re: BMW wow...

Higher price for higher Octane in the UK is justified by the return on mpg. Same for CH. Whilst your ECU adjusts according to the Octane rating, ultimately your engine is operating at higher temperatures, and that means a higher wear rate. Sod all in the short term but caveat emptor for higher mileage vehicles...
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Old 16.10.2010, 21:25
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Re: BMW wow...

Clarkson seems a bit indecisive on the X1:
In his first review above
"the X1 looks like a Hyundai that’s been subjected to a thousand years of
wind erosion. It’s dreary."


IN his second
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/dri...cle6388846.ece
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"a smart, clean shape, better than the ugly and unappealing X3, though lacking any great flair. "

Others will not be far behind, but for now at least, the X1 has the field to itself and its success seems as assured as it will be deserved. BMW X1 xDrive 23d SE
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There have been debates ongoing on the topic... Just a question on cons and pros of using unleaded vs super, V-Power for beamer? Which one makes more sense?
Plus, don't forget the increase in power that can come from higher octane ratings. This of course assumes that the engine is tuned for the higher rating and higher power output. Most recent cars have sensors that allow the engine to run on lower octane ratings without blowing up the engine. The ECU adjusts spark timing and fuel flow rates to maximize fuel efficiency and power output.

If the mapping isn't set up for the higher octane rating then it won't matter if you use a higher rated fuel than required by the vehicle manufacturer.

I know that I can tell the difference between octane ratings by throttle response as well as at the pump (fuel economy).
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Re: BMW wow...

I had a Chevvy Matiz that positively flew on 97 in the UK, without a doubt all ECUs > 93 adjust (and love) higher Octane fuels. My Beemer V8 returned 7% better fuel economy (ok 23 Vs +- 24 mpg sucks regardless (12 when towing))
The added surge and return on MPG far outweighs the extra pennies...

With the Matiz it was the difference in overtaking or following the old bloke in the middle lane on the m-ways.,.
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Plus, don't forget the increase in power that can come from higher octane ratings. ...
That is what I'm trying not to forget about but on the other hand I have been reading here and there and it makes you thinking...

Petrol is petrol, right?
Well depending on whom you ask, the answer could be yes… or no!
According to people working at refineries, most fuel you buy from the pump comes from the same few refineries, and it all has to meet certain standards. So they argue the same grade of fuel is likely to be identical regardless of where you filled up.
On the other hand, other people suggest that whilst the base fuel will be identical, the blends of additives will not, so that a chemical analysis of fuels from different sources will show they are not in fact identical. And they point to independant tests on vehicles where different power output result as evidence.
Naturally, the big name fuel manufactuers are keen to suggest that their own fuels work best, and they have been using this form of advertising for years – remember the “tiger in your tank”?
And one way they attempt to differentiate themselves in a market in which it is peculiarly difficult to stand out is to sell their ‘super fuels’ that have a higher research octane number (RON) than the regular brew.
So what are the benefits of these 98, 99 and even 102 RON fuels over the standard 95 octane pump fuel?
The usual marketing claims are that these fuels increase power, result in less pollution and help to keep the engine internals cleaner.
But is that a fact?

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95 is the same at all pumps
98 is the same at all pumps
98 is not the same as 95.

Oh , some marketing bod would have you believe their additives will save you a fortune, make your engine last longer and your Corolla blow that Porsche away. Bollocks.
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95 is the same at all pumps
98 is the same at all pumps
98 is not the same as 95.

Oh , some marketing bod would have you believe their additives will save you a fortune, make your engine last longer and your Corolla blow that Porsche away. Bollocks.
I have only had one additive confirmed as being actually different. That one unique additive is Techron, which is manufactured and marketed by Cheveron. It does help keep your injectors clean as well as your fuel system. However my mechanic commented that like many other additives that actually clean that you might need to change your fuel filter after a strong dose.

As far as RON ratings and what they do I had a BMW 330xiT and an Audi A4 2.0, which used 98 and 95 respectively, as per manufacturers suggestion.
When I put the lower RON fuel in the BMW I had less power and worse fuel economy.
Alternatively, when I would accidentally put the higher RON fuel in the Audi it just cost more. I didn't get better mileage or more power.

Ironically, sometimes the better throttle response would "encourage" me to drive in a more aggressive manner which of course would negate any fuel economy improvements that might have been possible.

This is the real reason I get better mileage when I can use the cruise control.
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Have any of you BMW fans found the indicator switch yet? I believe it is very well hidden on these Teutonic cars.....
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Have any of you BMW fans found the indicator switch yet? I believe it is very well hidden on these Teutonic cars.....
that's too difficult my man... as soon as i figured out where the fuel compartment was and what kind of petrol the beast drunk, indicator would be the next

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