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Honda Fireblade - Good or bad?

Dear EF,

To all bikers out there: Does anyone own or know someone who owns the newer Honda CBR1000RR or RA Fireblade? It's the 2008 onwards model that I'm interested in. I'm trying to decide if I should buy one as I would like to upgrade from my R1. If anyone has any feedback, I would be grateful to hear from you. From what my endless googling has produced so far, it seems that the bike is very reliable and a pleasure to own.

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Dear EF,

To all bikers out there: Does anyone own or know someone who owns the newer Honda CBR1000RR or RA Fireblade? It's the 2008 onwards model that I'm interested in. I'm trying to decide if I should buy one as I would like to upgrade from my R1. If anyone has any feedback, I would be grateful to hear from you. From what my endless googling has produced so far, it seems that the bike is very reliable and a pleasure to own.

Cheers,
Neil
Has there ever been a bad Fireblade ??? It's at the top of my BAB shopping list..
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Old 24.08.2010, 14:21
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Re: Honda Fireblade - Good or bad?

Not really! The 2005 to 2007 models had a fault with the generator due to the supplier using the wrong specs. (The insulation could not handle the higher oil temps and eventually failed). They also had quite a few of the last model that were burning over 1 litre of oil every 1000kms. And many bike mags criticised the Blade’s lack of ground clearance which often resulted in bottoming out the fairing on the road.

However, I have not heard any negative opinions or tales of the newer version. It's been around for 3 years so I figured anything serious would have showed up by now.
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Re: Honda Fireblade - Good or bad?

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I have a 2006 version, and so far no problems with it. It's a dream to ride, and since they cut the wheelbase a little, it's a very quick steer. Power delivery is nice, smooth, and a little sporty above 7000 rpm. Ride position is more perched on than it used to be on the old 900's due to a decrease in seat to pedal height, but still not bad. One I'd certainly recommend, if that's any help to you.

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I have a 2006 version, and so far no problems with it. It's a dream to ride, and since they cut the wheelbase a little, it's a very quick steer. Power delivery is nice, smooth, and a little sporty above 7000 rpm. Ride position is more perched on than it used to be on the old 900's due to a decrease in seat to pedal height, but still not bad. One I'd certainly recommend, if that's any help to you.

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Cheers Chris. I try not to pay too much attention to the critics in bike mags and prefer the honest opinion of the owner. Deep down, I'm a Honda lover so I'm looking forward to going back to them. (I still like my R1 but it's just lacking that Honda feel of quality) My friend owns a 2005 Blade with 55,000kms on the clock. The generator is the only problem he experienced and that was quickly taken care of under warranty. I think my mind is made up so I will be buying a 2009/2010 blade!

How do you find Honda servicing costs in CH? Expensive or average?
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Re: Honda Fireblade - Good or bad?

Hi

Difficult to say, as back in UK I'd do my own mostly. Then had a VTR in France for a few years before moving to Zurich. The only service I've paid for here was the 1500km one on my Pan European. That was okay for me, didn't think it was too expensive. Bought the Fireblade 2 months ago, which had just had the 24,000km service done, so no idea on costs, sorry.
Having 2 bikes and a car, none of them do that many Km a year, so for me, services are spread out quite well.
Maybe I've just been here too long and am now used to Swiss prices, please help.

Hope you decide on one soon, while we still have some of the season left :-) And then come along for a rideout with the rest of us.

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Re: Honda Fireblade - Good or bad?

Hi fellows,
May I know how many kilometers do these bikes usually last?
100,000 kms? less? more? 200,000kms?

how long do they last until their first big (and small?) engine job?

I am looking at buying a used honda CBR900RR, 1997 model, done 50,000 kilometers.
price-3,000chf
All advice from you all is more than welcome.
Thanks so much!!

edit - how often is the MFK for these bikes?
The MFK was apparently done end of last year(with no problems) and is due end of this year.
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Re: Honda Fireblade - Good or bad?

I've never owned a Fireblade. I'd ridden a VFR750 for 15 years, a Yami FZ750 for five years and a Yami FZR1000 for another 5 years. The VFR's build quality is unmatched. After 114'000 km I sold it still running like new. Only weak point: Voltage Regulator.

The FZR burned 1 liter of oil for every 1000 km and after only 71'000 km the much praised "EXup-System" failed. Cost me CHF 800 for a used Exup motor. 2000 km later the fuel pump failed, then the slave cylinder of the hydraulic clutch, then the front fork gaskets ...

Obeying current speed limits bike/car engines should last for ever. Engine jobs are far too expensive considering Swiss labour costs. Better buy another used bike. However, on any bike, between 50'000 and 100'000 km a rebuild of the front will be due: steering head bearings, fork gaskets and wheel bearings. Batteries last from four to eight years. Quality Chain and sprockets can last for 50'000 km. Just replaced my 900 Hornet's after 45'000 km.

MFK depends on your canton's Strassenverkehrsamt. Check out their home page. Often intervalls seem to depend on the workload of their IT systems and personell situation.

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After 114'000 km I sold it still running like new. Only weak point: Voltage Regulator.

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The FZR burned 1 liter of oil for every 1000 km and after only 71'000 km the much praised "EXup-System" failed.

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Just replaced my 900 Hornet's after 45'000 km.
Damn, Robert. I thought I was all experienced now because my little naked Beemer has 13'000 km on her!
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Re: Honda Fireblade - Good or bad?

Thanks for the detailed reply, rpf!!
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Hi fellows,
May I know how many kilometers do these bikes usually last?
100,000 kms? less? more? 200,000kms?

how long do they last until their first big (and small?) engine job?

I am looking at buying a used honda CBR900RR, 1997 model, done 50,000 kilometers.
price-3,000chf
All advice from you all is more than welcome.
Thanks so much!!

edit - how often is the MFK for these bikes?
The MFK was apparently done end of last year(with no problems) and is due end of this year.
The engine should last well into 100,00kms if it has been well looked after. Be careful that a lot of Fireblades have been used hard and have often seen a lot of track days. Check it has full history and that the engine does not have any nasty rattles. Check for blue smoke out of the exhaust at start up as this gives an indication of the engine condition.

Have a good look at the gearbox. Does the gearbox make any noise? Check that all 6 gears are easy to select. If there is any doubt, walk away as some riders are very cruel to the gearbox and any repair works can only be done when the engine is removed which costs plenty dollar lolly.

By now, the engine should have already had a major service which inludes valve shimming. Check that has been done as its a costly service. Also check if the suspension bushes, front fork seals, head stock bearings are in good condition. You could expect that these will need changing soon.

Finally, have a good look at the Fireblade forums where you will find lots of advice and help.
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Re: Honda Fireblade - Good or bad?

My 2007 model has just had the 36k service done, plus new brake pads on front. So far everything is running smooth. It's done a couple of trackdays, and has 2 more coming in Aug/Sep, but it's not every weekend :-) I still love riding it, it does nothing wrong, apart from falling over from the sidestand last month. As everyone has said, they should last quite some time, just make sure you look after it well.
As for the MFK, I'm still waiting for the first on this bike, and my Pan European has not yet reached 5 years so waiting there as well.

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