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MoabMan 27.06.2007 22:37

Importing a modified Jeep
 
I will be moving to Zug soon as my wife just got a job transfer. I have a question concerning my vehicles that I have not been able to find an answer for elsewhere.

We have two modified right hand drive Jeeps that were originally imported to the UK by the manufacturer in homologated UK type approved spec. Over the years they have been modified for offroad expedition use and have recently spent 11-months on tour in the USA. Both vehicles are still UK road legal and are currently taxed, MoTd and insured for use in the UK.

Will we be able to drive these Jeeps in Switzerland on British plates if they return to the UK regularly (Once every 30 to 90 days)?

Can a modified vehicle pass the vehicle test in Zug and get Swiss plates?

http://files.myopera.com/vbentley/al...Trip%20027.jpg
This picture was taken in Colorado last year.

tomcat 28.06.2007 09:42

Re: Importing a modified Jeep
 
I am looking forward to the answer to this question.

I have a mildly built (understatement)98 TJ sitting in Texas, can't find a pic and won't post all the goodies, but it's been wheeled good and hard. :D

Lob 28.06.2007 10:07

Re: Importing a modified Jeep
 
on the bright side, they're EU models.

on the very down side you may need to get a permission slip for everything non-standard. You will have to get Swiss plates a year after bringing them in.

MoabMan 28.06.2007 10:44

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Thanks. Is a permission slip like a UK 'Engineer's Report'? Can I get a Swiss Jeep specialist to write them? If so, does the specialist have to be based in the same Canton?

Shorrick Mk2 28.06.2007 10:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MoabMan (Post 77504)
Thanks. Is a permission slip like a UK 'Engineer's Report'? Can I get a Swiss Jeep specialist to write them? If so, does the specialist have to be based in the same Canton?

No. You have to provide proof that all aftermarket parts are homologated according to Swiss standards. This is usually provided by the importer/distributor of said part. No homologation - it has to come off the car.

Blonaybear 28.06.2007 10:54

Re: Importing a modified Jeep
 
I see from your profile that you give driving jeep trails as your interest.

I only know the area where I live but I can tell you that driving this sort of vehicle into the forests and mountain tracks is certainly not permitted. Only essential services are allowed to do this. The Swiss love their nature and certainly donít want Jeeps going through their forests and mountains.

Perhaps you should consider a mountain bike.

Evolver 28.06.2007 11:05

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Offroading possibilities in Switzerland are discussed in detail in this thread...

28.06.2007 11:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MoabMan (Post 77344)
Will we be able to drive these Jeeps in Switzerland on British plates if they return to the UK regularly (Once every 30 to 90 days)?

Not legally after you have been here a year.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoabMan (Post 77344)
Can a modified vehicle pass the vehicle test in Zug and get Swiss plates?

Yes. But from the pics you'll have your work cut out :).

What some people do is take all the mods off and put it back to standard, do the test, put the mods back on - but that's bikes and it's a bit easier ;).

litespeed 28.06.2007 12:46

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And with vehicles like these, you may very well incur the wrath of the anti-SUV crowd, which are quite active here.:msnshock:

Mark75 28.06.2007 13:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by litespeed (Post 77575)
And with vehicles like these, you may very well incur the wrath of the anti-SUV crowd, which are quite active here.:msnshock:

Well, they claim that they have nothing against SUVs that are actually used/needed for off road driving (which is clearly the case here), but given that those idiots sometimes vandalize mini-SUVs like the Toyota RAV4 with their silly stickers, I strongly doubt that they have the mental capacity to make that distinction. :mad:

DaveA 28.06.2007 13:37

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I wouldnt worry about that, for every wooly-jumpered right-on tree-hugger there is a person enjoying life without excessive navel-gazing.

dave

Quote:

Originally Posted by litespeed (Post 77575)
And with vehicles like these, you may very well incur the wrath of the anti-SUV crowd, which are quite active here.:msnshock:


MoabMan 28.06.2007 21:23

Re: Importing a modified Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blonaybear (Post 77508)
I see from your profile that you give driving jeep trails as your interest.

I only know the area where I live but I can tell you that driving this sort of vehicle into the forests and mountain tracks is certainly not permitted. Only essential services are allowed to do this. The Swiss love their nature and certainly donít want Jeeps going through their forests and mountains.

I used to run JeepClub in the UK, I have organised many completely legal offroad club events on private sites in the UK including some on Ministry of Defence estates. I am very familiar with checking out where I can legally drive beforehand. At the moment, I am assuming all of Switzerland is out of bounds for me which means I'm probably going to spend all my vacation time in the USA for the next 3-years.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blonaybear (Post 77508)
Perhaps you should consider a mountain bike.

I got one of those too, and a sled dog.

MoabMan 28.06.2007 21:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swissbob (Post 77530)
Not legally after you have been here a year.

Does that mean I can drive them on British plates up to a year and then it's either CH plates or my Jeeps have to leave the country?

If I can drive them on British plates until March, that will be great. I will get them back on a ship to the USA in the spring and they can stay there for 10-months before they have to return to the UK for MoTs.

Lou 28.06.2007 21:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MoabMan (Post 77815)
Does that mean I can drive them on British plates up to a year and then it's either CH plates or my Jeeps have to leave the country?

You got it in one ;). One years grace period then it's Swiss plates or bust.

Nathu 29.06.2007 01:13

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I'm not really into car stuff but I see that the right car has a bull bar. Switzerland has the same regulations like the UK on them at the moment but the EU norm possibly could be retroactively extended to cars that are already in circulation. The legislative instances are revising the car safety laws at the moment.

MoabMan 29.06.2007 02:05

Re: Importing a modified Jeep
 
Actually, it might look like a bull bar but it is in fact an 'endo' bar. It's function is to prevent the vehicle landing on it's roof when descending extreme gradients. It is safety equipment designed for the use of this vehicle on extreme terrain. I have done a 'nose' stand in another Jeep that didn't have one so I can appreciate the difference.

I've always thought it strange that legislators insist on making cars so quiet that pedestrians don't hear them approaching. So they compensate by making the front of cars softer for when pedestrians step out in front of them. Even stranger, legislators allow flat fronted heavy goods vehicles to be driven all across Europe that kill pedestrians on impact at much lower speeds and that the 5 star ENCAP safety standard cannot prevent a car from being crushed by a laden heavy goods vehicle in a collision.

Two of my son's schoolmates were killed a few weeks ago by a truck that crashed into the back of the Mitsubishi L200 that they were rear seat passengers in. And a few years back, a friend lost both of her kids when a truck squashed the car that was taking them and her neighbours kids to school. I've never known anyone personally that has been injured by a Jeep bumper, I guess the legislators know best.

Interestingly, the UK insurance industry recognises that modified Jeeps are rarely stolen or involved in accidents and my insurance premiums are more than £100 cheaper than the typical premium for an unmodified Jeep of the same age.

I am slowly realising that perhaps I'm going to experience a little more friction adjusting to Swiss life than most expats.

Are there any laws against sledding your dogs on the highway?

Diem 29.06.2007 10:25

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Moabman, although you aren't even here yet, it seems that you're looking for trouble.

Lob 29.06.2007 10:28

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If you think it's hard to convince us, you'll be shocked as to what you'll have to do to import these vehicles.

I'd consider selling tickets and popcorn for the "event" ;)

And driving around on Brit plates in them will generate attention - they are not subtle. I'm sure the cops will want to discuss them. Plus there's always your neighbours who will dob you in ;)

thekelves 29.06.2007 10:58

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i think those are 2 highly modified vehicle and will be somewhat hard to get them on the road here in switzerland. good luck



MoabMan 29.06.2007 22:10

Re: Importing a modified Jeep
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Diem (Post 77934)
Moabman, although you aren't even here yet, it seems that you're looking for trouble.

Sorry, I'm not looking for trouble, I'm just disappointed. It's a Jeep thing you wouldn't understand!


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