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Speed-go to jail?

Hello everyone,
So my brother in law has just arrived here in switzerland. Everything was going fine, he has his permit, changed his license, has a good job. But unfortunately he has managed to already lose his license for a year due to speeding... doing 80 in a 50 zone. So anyways he was given a 6 month grace period before having to turn in his lisence. Well last week he managed to do 125 in a 60km which was a work zone on the thruway. So we know that a fine is a given and loss of license- probably indefinately but I'm wondering if jail time is probable as well?
Also I know of swiss people that have been in similar situations and have only been given a 6 month sentence of loss of license... so is the law different for foreigners?
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Old 26.09.2010, 22:09
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Re: Speed-go to jail?

Swiss law won't discriminate in these cases.

125 in a 60 zone, having already been nicked? Tosser.
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Re: Speed-go to jail?

Why would you think that the laws would be any different for foreigners or citizens? They could always deport him and bar him re-entry I suppose.
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Re: Speed-go to jail?

A fool and his money, and freedom, are soon parted.
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Re: Speed-go to jail?

anyone have a real answer?
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Re: Speed-go to jail?

Jail is an option used to pay the fine (if you are too poor to pay).
The salary rate for jailed offenders is 30chf/day ( no joke)
So if your fine is 180chf you can opt to go to jail for 6 days
But you must prove your poverty (eg., claiming unemployment)

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Re: Speed-go to jail?

have a look at this thread
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Yup...the judge
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Well last week he managed to do 125 in a 60km which was a work zone on the thruway.
How did he manage that if the roadworks were the reason for the reduced speed. He must have been flying past all the other cars. And he didn't notice this

Sounds like your brother in law will be taking public transit for a long time.
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Re: Speed-go to jail?

The second offence will screw him. Probably in the first offence there is a clause that if he reoffends within two years then he will be fined further, yes it will be many thousand, but 125 in a 60 isn't something taken likely. It will go to court and as a re-offence he will propably have the book thrown at him. On the plus side any fine can be discussed with the authorities and paid over a number of months. My hunch is that it will be financial with a further loss of his license .Yes there will be an option to go to jail, but that will probably screw him on the work side. At the end of the day, no one was hurt, only the pride of the driver. Welcolme to Switzerland!
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Re: Speed-go to jail?

You say that he has a good job. If good job = good salary then he can expect a very hefty fine. The fines are on a sliding scale based on your ability to pay, effectively making sure that the fine has the same impact on everyone. If he didn't injure anyone then I don't think that he'll get a custodial sentence, but the fact that he repeat offended in the grace period before handing in his license for the first offense isn't going to go down well.

My prediction, a very hefty fine and substantial ban.
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Re: Speed-go to jail?

Currently, this kind of behavior is a VERY sensitive issue, just check the papers. He might be better off taking transit as long as he lives in CH, for his own good.

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Hello everyone,
So my brother in law has just arrived here in switzerland. Everything was going fine, he has his permit, changed his license, has a good job. But unfortunately he has managed to already lose his license for a year due to speeding... doing 80 in a 50 zone. So anyways he was given a 6 month grace period before having to turn in his lisence. Well last week he managed to do 125 in a 60km which was a work zone on the thruway. So we know that a fine is a given and loss of license- probably indefinately but I'm wondering if jail time is probable as well?
Also I know of swiss people that have been in similar situations and have only been given a 6 month sentence of loss of license... so is the law different for foreigners?
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Re: Speed-go to jail?

Porridge time
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Be fair now. He is new here, lost his licence for a year, 6 months grace period, and still flaunts the law by being caught speeding again... but worse than before!!

He may be a nice guy but WTF! Did he not think after the first run in, maybe I should take it easy?

I wouldn't have high hopes for him coming out of this smiling.
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Re: Speed-go to jail?

I have to say that I find it so easy to break the speed limits in Switzerland especially when there is very little traffic on the road such as at night and very early in the morning.
I realised this situation and that is the reason that I am driving a UK registered car in the name of a UK company and keep my UK driving licence and UK passport in the vehicle at all times for the inevitable.

I suppose the situation is the same in the UK.
Try driving along the North Circular around North London where there are four lanes of carriageway at night or the M25 with variable speed cameras. At least the speed cameras are Yellow Boxes to remind you of the situation.
In the UK, I always have my Swiss Passport and Swiss Driving Licence in the vehicle and the car is registered to a UK company.

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Re: Speed-go to jail?

I don't know which you got first, but ... if I apply to swap my UK licence for a Swiss one, don't they take the UK one away?
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I don't know which you got first, but ... if I apply to swap my UK licence for a Swiss one, don't they take the UK one away?
Yep, I had the same problem as you, but problems are there to be solved.
Found a way of applying for a UK provisional and took my test again in the UK and obtained a full UK driving licence.
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Re: Speed-go to jail?

No the law is no different for foreigners. However the ultimate punishment might be. How would you feel if someone came into your house and broke your rules?

Being a foreigner, who broke the law, then flaunted it by breaking it yet again is asking the judge to look very closely at him. That the judge would then exercise his power to apply maximum punishment would not be surprising and frankly speaking deservedly so.

To prevent the inevitable if your brother in law continues to drive, I too would advocate tossing away the keys.
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Old 27.09.2010, 08:23
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Re: Speed-go to jail?

See this is why I do 80 in a 120 zone until I see an actual sign...annoying for others, but it's just too scary here. And to answer the OP - the judge will decide - happy now?
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I don't know which you got first, but ... if I apply to swap my UK licence for a Swiss one, don't they take the UK one away?
No, I was asked if I wanted to keep it "as a souvenir" (implied, keep it if you want, but in your basement not in your pocket). In any case, you can reapply for your British license any time you want.
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