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24.10.2010, 18:30
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I am in a big mess, I have a learners driving license and in emergency i was driving without any companion. Police caught me!!  and took my license I don't know what should i do and how big this offense is?
I also want to put my case that it was in emergency that i have to drive back from unil to home. Person who came with me to Unil can testify that I came with him and since he had urgent work I had to drive myself.
Please suggest what should i do and what can i do and what should i expect
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24.10.2010, 18:37
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| | Re: Driving alone on learners License
Will there be any additional punishment other than witholding your DL?
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24.10.2010, 18:39
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| | Re: Driving alone on learners License | Quote: | |  | | | I am in a big mess, I have a learners driving license and in emergency i was driving without any companion. Police caught me!! and took my license I don't know what should i do and how big this offense is?
I also want to put my case that it was in emergency that i have to drive back from unil to home. Person who came with me to Unil can testify that I came with him and since he had urgent work I had to drive myself.
Please suggest what should i do and what can i do and what should i expect | | | | | I have no idea what further punishment will happen, but I can't imagine any circumstances in which the police will accept that an "emergency" forced you to drive home alone without a license. Whatever happens, you're pretty much stuck with it.
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24.10.2010, 18:49
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| | Re: Driving alone on learners License | Quote: | |  | | | I also want to put my case that it was in emergency. | | | | | I wouldn't say this, as it clearly wasn't an emergency!
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24.10.2010, 19:01
| | Re: Driving alone on learners License | Quote: | |  | | | I wouldn't say this, as it clearly wasn't an emergency! | | | | | Neighbor got flashed speeding because his elderly mother was having breathing problems (she was already at the hospital, he was on way). Other neighbor (cantonal police officer) informed him that only (authorized) vehicles driving with a flashing blue light can use the "emergency" exception to the rules of the road. | Quote: | |  | | | Person who came with me to Unil can testify that I came with him and since he had urgent work I had to drive myself. | | | | | Did he physically force or threaten you to drive without a valid license or did you choose to do so of your own free will..
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24.10.2010, 19:05
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| | Re: Driving alone on learners License
The only emergency that could potentially be accepted as mitigating circumstances would be a life or death situation, and only one where the emergency services for whatever reason couldn't help. I'm afraid being stuck in a place without a co-driver does not count as an emergency. You could have taken the train if you needed to get home urgently, and then collected your car, with co-driver, at a later date
As far as to what's going to happen I've no idea, but I don't think you'll get much sympathy.
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24.10.2010, 19:13
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| | Re: Driving alone on learners License
Look on the bright side: maybe they prevented you and someone innocent having an accident.
And if you had an accident and were driving as a learner alone do you think the insurance would pay out?
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24.10.2010, 19:15
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I don't know as police officer said that his work is only to make a report and authority will make decision on case. | Quote: | |  | | | Will there be any additional punishment other than witholding your DL? | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | Neighbor got flashed speeding because his elderly mother was having breathing problems (she was already at the hospital, he was on way). Other neighbor (cantonal police officer) informed him that only (authorized) vehicles driving with a flashing blue light can use the "emergency" exception to the rules of the road.
Did he physically force or threaten you to drive without a valid license or did you choose to do so of your own free will.. | | | | | No pretty much it was by my own will to take the car back to parking which was just 2km away.
Police officer said that there will be some fine and I may not be allowed to take practical driving exam. I just wish if i can do something atleast to keep right to test for license. | Quote: | |  | | | I don't know as police officer said that his work is only to make a report and authority will make decision on case. | | | | |
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24.10.2010, 19:26
| | Re: Driving alone on learners License
Potentially very bad news.
In this newspaper from 2009 there is a report that the penalty for driving without a license is to be brought is line with driving while disqulaified. Up to 3 years in prison and / or significant fines.
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24.10.2010, 19:46
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| | Re: Driving alone on learners License | Quote: | |  | | | In this newspaper from 2009 there is a report that the penalty for driving without a license is to be brought is line with driving while disqulaified. Up to 3 years in prison and / or significant fines. | | | | | The change mentioned in the linked article hasn't made it into law so far.
According to Art. 95 of the Federal road traffic law, the OP will get fined, but certainly no prison time.
In addition his learner's license will get cancelled AFAIK and he will have to wait some time until he can reapply, but I'm not 100% sure about that.
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24.10.2010, 20:25
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| | Re: Driving alone on learners License | Quote: | |  | | |
No pretty much it was by my own will to take the car back to parking which was just 2km away.
| | | | | So, ahh, do I get this right - the actual emergency was bringing a car back to a parking 2km away???
Excuse me while I ROFLMAO
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24.10.2010, 20:27
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Ouch! Rather you than me.
I don't know what it is in CH but in the UK we have a book called, 'The Highway Code' which learner drivers are supposed to read. In the back of this book there is a penalty table listing all the types of offences and punishments. According to the version I have, you seem to fall under 'Driving when disqualified'= 6 mths. imprisonment (12 if in Scotland), a five thousand pound fine, six penalty points added on your licence and it says disqualification is discretionary.
If you're learning to drive, surely you're in possession of such a similar book?
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24.10.2010, 20:28
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YEP you are in a mess - it will cost you, but mainly you can kiss your licence good bye for quite a while. But if you had had an accident, even if the other driver was at fault- you would be in prison NOW. Remember too that an accompanying driver must be over the age of 23 and have had a licence for at least 3 years. Be grateful for small mercies.
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24.10.2010, 20:32
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I understand your position.
I have been in the same position back in Australia.
I had no beer in the fridge.
Good thing I did not get court and good thing I did not have an accident.
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24.10.2010, 20:33
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Sorry to say this but surely you understand that you telling them that you considered your situation to be an "emergency" will put your ability to make proper judgements on the road look fairly bad? AND it also says in your theory book that you must not ever drive without a person next to you, so either you don't know your theory or you consider yourself above the law. Both will once more discount any claim you may have to being allowed a license.
So in my opinion you should keep your head down, accept whatever punishment you get and look at public transport more closely, as that's what you will be using for an unspecified period...
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24.10.2010, 20:43
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I just wish if i can do something atleast to keep right to test for license.[/QUOTE]
Mmm.....the authorities have already nailed you, so don't expect a miracle.
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24.10.2010, 20:49
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| | Re: Driving alone on learners License | Quote: | |  | | | I had no beer in the fridge. | | | | | At least that was a real emergency! | This user would like to thank Mark75 for this useful post: | | 
24.10.2010, 21:12
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How come you got stopped on a 2km drive??
I've driven here on a daily basis for 21 years and was stopped only once and then for about 15 seconds and no licence or papers were asked for...
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24.10.2010, 21:43
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| | Re: Driving alone on learners License | Quote: | |  | | | How come you got stopped on a 2km drive?? | | | | | I think they call it Murphy's Law... | 
24.10.2010, 22:02
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| | Re: Driving alone on learners License | Quote: | |  | | | I think they call it Murphy's Law... | | | | | Either that or the OP forgot to remove the blue 'L' plate from the back of the car...
That must have attracted the cop's attention because nobody is ever supposed to be driving alone with the 'L' on the back.
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