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Re: A year has passed - i have not renewed my driving license - what's now?

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Old 19.11.2010, 12:25
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Of course. Its an Australian drivers licence, Switzerland can't disable another countries licence.
Yes they can. It's illegal in Switzerland and Australia to carry two driver's licenses. You can always apply to Australia for a new one but then you'd have to deregister the Swiss one or just hide one (easy, but technically illegal). It's all just a technicality though, as long as you aren't actually carrying both at the same time I don't see why it'd matter. I drive in the UK often but told them to destroy my UK card rather than both posting it back to the UK - my Swiss one works fine in the UK.
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Old 19.11.2010, 12:30
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Re: A year has passed - i have not renewed my driving license - what's now?

Thats doesn't make sense. Why would they stamp the back of it with NOT VALID IN SWITZERLAND and return it to you??. I asked the guy at strassenverkehrsamt specifically and he told me no worries driving in either country and for me to carry my swiss one for clarification with aussie authorities (im going home in December and wondered if i could use the Australian licence).
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Old 19.11.2010, 12:32
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Re: A year has passed - i have not renewed my driving license - what's now?

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Thats doesn't make sense. Why would they stamp the back of it with NOT VALID IN SWITZERLAND??. I asked the guy at strassenverkehrsamt specifically and he told me no worries (im going home in December and wondered if i could use the Australian licence).

so if you get banned in switzerland (speeding etc) you can't then fall back and use your austrailian one.
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Old 19.11.2010, 12:39
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But thats a generalised EU licence.
There is no such thing. Member states still issue their own licenses.
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Old 19.11.2010, 12:41
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Yes they can. It's illegal in Switzerland and Australia to carry two driver's licenses.
Do zou have a source for that?

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You can always apply to Australia for a new one but then you'd have to deregister the Swiss one or just hide one (easy, but technically illegal).
He doesn't need to. His Oz license is valid everywhere except Switzerland.
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Old 19.11.2010, 12:47
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Re: A year has passed - i have not renewed my driving license - what's now?

Just called the "STRASSENVERKEHRSAMT DES KANTONS ZÜRICH" and was informed that I will get my Israeli driving license back, and in particular will be allowed to use it in Israel.

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Yes they can. It's illegal in Switzerland and Australia to carry two driver's licenses. You can always apply to Australia for a new one but then you'd have to deregister the Swiss one or just hide one (easy, but technically illegal). It's all just a technicality though, as long as you aren't actually carrying both at the same time I don't see why it'd matter. I drive in the UK often but told them to destroy my UK card rather than both posting it back to the UK - my Swiss one works fine in the UK.
Not sure of the ruling in Australia but I used to work with a German guy who had a Swiss and a German licence (he lived in Germany and requested that he be returned his German licence when his Swiss licence was issued).

You are allowed to drive with two licences but they stamp them both to say there is a second licence in existence so if you get done for a major offence and your licence goes on a well-earned break, the authorities know they need to relieve you of the other licence, too.

They took my UK licence back when I converted because I couldn't think of a reason for needing two but I'm pretty sure I could have carried two, albeit with the "2nd licence" stamp.
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Old 19.11.2010, 13:40
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Re: A year has passed - i have not renewed my driving license - what's now?

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There is no such thing. Member states still issue their own licenses.
ergh thats not what I meant. If you have a 'generalised or standard' (my words ...) EU licence (ie. Licence from in a EU country) you obviously don't need two licences (one for another country in the EU) so they take ur licence when you change it over. Whereas in Australia they're not really gonna recognise your EU licence after a while (you have to change it over the same as Switzerland i think) but its still valid in the EU and therefore you have two licences
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Old 11.12.2010, 15:31
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Re: A year has passed - i have not renewed my driving license - what's now?

As promised: Here is some information related to getting a Swiss driving license even a stay in Switzerland of more than one year. I have Israeli (that is, non-EU) driving license, maybe in the case of EU driving license it works differently.

I filled some forms (you can download it on the website of the "STRASSENVERKEHRSAMT DES KANTONS ZÜRICH"), went to the
optometrist and then I went to their office and applied for a Swiss driving license (it took 7 minutes). I had to give my Israeli driving license (I brought my old one as well to indicate that I have some experience of driving). After 5 days I got back my Israeli driving license (with a funny sticker on it "no valid in Switzerland", which I have easily removed) and my Swiss driving license. I have not even mentioned when applying that I live in Switzerland for more than 2 years, it seemed to me that they don't care.
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Old 11.12.2010, 16:02
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Re: A year has passed - i have not renewed my driving license - what's now?

Agree with this approach. I traded my Califonia after two+ years, when I realized that we would actually be staying for a while. I may have been very lucky, but they didn't bat an eye. One thing that does help, if it states somewhere how long you have been licensed. I think they want to see that you have been licensed at least 5 years.

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You're definitely meant to have to redo it, but it seems that quite a lot of other people on here have changed it later than the one year deadline without hassle, but a smaller number of people have had issues.

It's all in here:
[Drivers licence] Conversion and questions

Go along to the traffic authorities, smile sweetly and explain that you've never driven here and would never never think of it without changing your licence, but now you would like to and they might let you change.
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Old 11.12.2010, 16:21
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Re: A year has passed - i have not renewed my driving license - what's now?

I'm non EU and exchanged it after 4 years, i were willing to do the whole process but the lady told me to translate mine and arrange a date for a drive test (No theory), just popup in their office and have a small nice chat, someone could be having a nice day and would exchange it for you on the counter
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Re: A year has passed - i have not renewed my driving license - what's now?

THe "forever" thing seems to ignore the fact that many of us not just in one country. If my NZ license was sent back to NZ until I swapped back by handing over my Swiss one ( hypothetically as I dont have one) that would mean driving on my Swiss one in NZ, or having to apply for an interntaional one every year that I went back to NZ.

What happens in the USA? Is a Swiss licence considered legal for people going back for a short time?
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Old 11.12.2010, 18:06
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THe "forever" thing seems to ignore the fact that many of us not just in one country. If my NZ license was sent back to NZ until I swapped back by handing over my Swiss one ( hypothetically as I dont have one) that would mean driving on my Swiss one in NZ, or having to apply for an interntaional one every year that I went back to NZ.

What happens in the USA? Is a Swiss licence considered legal for people going back for a short time?
I assume so as the US / UK / FR / DE / IT and other ones are legal here for 1 year
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I assume so as the US / UK / FR / DE / IT and other ones are legal here for 1 year
Yes, but what happens after that one year? Is the Swiss one going to be considered okay for using on various trips back to the country that has been sent your original licence) for MORE than one year as well? Any Kiwi had experience of this situation? ( or know if we can actually get out NZ licence back from the NZ authorities, without handing in the Swiss one?
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Old 16.12.2010, 09:15
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THe "forever" thing seems to ignore the fact that many of us not just in one country. If my NZ license was sent back to NZ until I swapped back by handing over my Swiss one ( hypothetically as I dont have one) that would mean driving on my Swiss one in NZ, or having to apply for an interntaional one every year that I went back to NZ.

What happens in the USA? Is a Swiss licence considered legal for people going back for a short time?
Sure, I've even rented cars in the US with it.

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Old 16.12.2010, 10:03
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Re: A year has passed - i have not renewed my driving license - now what?

I wasn't aware of the rule saying you can't have two licences but anyway guess it's pretty unenforcable so shouldn't be a cause of much worry.

A foreign licence is a document issued by another country and I don't think the Swiss authorities can tell you you can't have it, just as they can't tell you you can't own property in another country or anything like that. Of course if you swap your licence they have a valid interest in your old one as that is the basis upon which they issue your new one, and hence they are entitled to say you can't have it. But if you do the test twice, I don't see what relevence the old licence has to them, as long as you don't attempt to use it over here.
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When we went to the Service des Autos here to exchange our licences, their explained to us that they had to take our UK licences, as it is illegal to have two. We tried to argue and explained that we still keep a car in the UK, so had to have our UK Licence for insurance purpose. They were categorical that this is NOT possible and it would be illegal for them to give us our UK licence back.
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Old 16.12.2010, 12:35
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Re: A year has passed - i have not renewed my driving license - now what?

What if you have been here (in Switzerland) for 1 year but not driving?

Does it mean you still have to convert your license, or it only counts when you start driving and owning a car?

Sorry to steal your thread.
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Old 16.12.2010, 12:44
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Re: A year has passed - i have not renewed my driving license - now what?

They can't really figure whether you were driving here. You need to convert to Swiss licence after one year in any case.
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