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Lenzerheide

So I've been hearing a lot about Lenzerheide being one of Switzerland's best-kept ski secret and a good alternative to big resorts like Davos or Zermatt, including on this excellent thread.

I've never been to Lenzerheide so I'd like to ask for your recommendations: do you know of any good, charming hotels? Any particularly nice restaurants? What's your favorite spa? Any other cool tips?
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Re: Lenzerheide

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So I've been hearing a lot about Lenzerheide being one of Switzerland's best-kept ski secret and a good alternative to big resorts like Davos or Zermatt, including on this excellent thread.

I've never been to Lenzerheide so I'd like to ask for your recommendations: do you know of any good, charming hotels? Any particularly nice restaurants? What's your favorite spa? Any other cool tips?
A couple of weeks ago, CO-OP were giving away coupons for Lenzerheide ski-lift day passes - two for one.
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Re: Lenzerheide

Lenzerheide is not as "posh" as St. Moritz, Klosters or Davos, but it is getting very popular among Zurich people to buy a holiday apartment/house there. It takes only ca 1.5 hours by car to go there from Zurich and the ski slopes are great.

If you would prefer to stay in a more quiet place (since Lenzerheide could be quite busy during high season), then there are other villages close to Lenzerheide, e.g. Valbella and Parpan.

The high-end hotels in Lenzerheide to recommend would be:
-Schweizerhof (with a nice spa; conveniently located)
-Guarda Val (beautiful hotel with an excellent restaurant, but not in the village center)

Good luck with your search.
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Re: Lenzerheide

We went to the Lenzerheide for Christmas once. Near the house the snow was about 5 metres x 10 metres (Area!). On the rest, the sheep were still grazing!
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Sure thing. The house we stayed in was very cool. You could have called it cold really.

Mind you, the skiing situation might be very different now. This was way back before the warming-up of the climate raised the snow-line!

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Re: Lenzerheide

I can certainly recommend Lenzerheide. We live near Chur and it's about a 30minute drive up to Lenzerheide. If you have a family, you are set! They have every activity imaginable. We spent many wonderful summer days swimming in the lake. They have a park, climbing wall, outside restaurant, open grill so you can grill your own food, you can rent windsurfer, skiis, etc. Fishing, Tennis, beach volleyball, basketball all around the lake. Now for winter time, they have even more options. If you are into snow sports... they have downhill skiing, snowboarding, sleding, etc. and cross country trails all over the place. We drove up on Jan1. 2011 to the indoor public swimming pool with our 9 month old! Amazing!! on Jan2. we brought him sleding around the trails. Huge variety of restaurants, sports stores, even a few grocery stores and hotels. All open on Sunday. There could be many more options. I am only mentioning things I've seen and from my personal experiences. My husband and I am seriously considering moving to that area due to the great family environment
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Re: Lenzerheide

I find the slopes at Lenzerheide both busy and fast. I wasn't impressed. You can also spend a fair amount of time traversing from one peak to the next.

It isn't the world's worst resort - but I prefer some others.
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Re: Lenzerheide

Thanks--looking to do mainly some cross-country and spa, with perhaps some downhilling for variety, but this is good to know.

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Thank you--posh is absolutely not a consideration and it's helpful to know the villages nearby. The stunning Guarda Val is how I stumbled across Lenzerheide in the first place--exactly my style but sadly too rich for my budget this time.

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If you would prefer to stay in a more quiet place (since Lenzerheide could be quite busy during high season), then there are other villages close to Lenzerheide, e.g. Valbella and Parpan.

The high-end hotels in Lenzerheide to recommend would be:
-Schweizerhof (with a nice spa; conveniently located)
-Guarda Val (beautiful hotel with an excellent restaurant, but not in the village center)

Good luck with your search.
You are and Mr. Longbyt are too cool for words, my dear...

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The house we stayed in was very cool. You could have called it cold really.

Mind you, the skiing situation might be very different now. This was way back before the warming-up of the climate raised the snow-line!

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I find the slopes at Lenzerheide both busy and fast. I wasn't impressed. You can also spend a fair amount of time traversing from one peak to the next.

It isn't the world's worst resort - but I prefer some others.
This is exactly why I like it. The resort is quite spread out over a huge area, the crowds tend to congregate in a few areas and don't do too much of the interconnecting stuff so if you are willing to ski at the other ends of the resort you can have very quiet runs away from everyone. Also because there are 8 access points to the mountain you rarely have any bottle necks (The mid station of Rothorn(Scharmoin) and the Alp Lavoz lift are the two exceptions to this.

Also there is huge amounts of off piste there.
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Re: Lenzerheide

How are the plans progressing to connect Arosa and Lenzerheide, I thought that was intentioned 2012 or 13 if I recall. I am fan of both, so that would make a great ski area (though maybe would over popularize it to the detriment).
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Old 10.01.2011, 16:56
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How are the plans progressing to connect Arosa and Lenzerheide, I thought that was intentioned 2012 or 13 if I recall. I am fan of both, so that would make a great ski area (though maybe would over popularize it to the detriment).
The plan has been killed and revived a number of times over the last few years. Various reasons have been touted, some say the area should be a wildlife reserve, but also the Arosa tourist board are scared it will mean less people will make the effort to go to Arosa since Lenzerheide is easier to get to.

The most recent plans I saw did not have any pistes between the resorts just a long gondola connecting Schwarzhorn (Lenzerheide) to Hörnli (Arosa).

I personally hope it doesn't happen. The area between the two resorts is a favourite playground of mine both summer and winter. Because it is unsecured alpine terrain at the moment means no crowds back there. If they make a connection that will all change.

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Re: Lenzerheide

Hi there ski lovers!

Does any of you have information about parking places near Lenzerheide?

Would the best place to park be Churwalden? Any other places?

Thanks a lot!!
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Re: Lenzerheide

The lift from Churwalden up to Alp Statz is very slow. I usually only park there if the traffic is bad getting up to Valbella.

There are car parks at Valbella, Fadail and Rothorn Valley station where you park depends on which side of the resort you want to ski on. It's possible to ski from the West side of the valley to the Rothorn side by crossing the valley at Parpan but to get from the Rothorn side to the west side you need to take the ski bus.

I would consider the West side to be the easier side to ski on if you are beginnner/intermediate.

I usually park in Fadail if I head up there. Turn right by the Raffeisen bank in Valbella and follow the road around as it curves to the left. Keep driving for a couple of kilometers until you see a fairly large car park on your right hand side.
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I find the slopes at Lenzerheide both busy and fast. I wasn't impressed. You can also spend a fair amount of time traversing from one peak to the next.

It isn't the world's worst resort - but I prefer some others.
Agreed! I thought it was average ... sorry !
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Re: Lenzerheide

I have done the whole resort twice so far and personally do not think I would want to go back there again. It's ok and lots of fun to be had there but IMHO there are better places to go e.g. Films Laax Farela or Davos in Graubunden. I found good and reasonably priced accommodation in Chur. Cannot remember the link now as I googled it and managed to book online.
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Re: Lenzerheide

I'd certainly not rate Flims/Laax above Lenzerheide.

Flims Laax has two access points to the mountain and a guaranteed que on a busy day. I've spent an hour just waiting to get on the mountain in Flims/Laax. When on the mountain the first two lifts to get away from the top of the lift you come up from the valley are also always way crowded. The pistes are quite good and wide but any time I've been there they have been a test of avoiding other out of control people rather than an enjoyable ride down the mountain. After a fresh snowfall they leave the freeride runs closed until they are so tracked out from people riding them anyway that it is pointless to open them when they do. It's got a reputation for being a great snowboarding resort because of the huge park at Crap Sogn Gion but the features in the park are for the most part so big if your name is not Shaun White you have no business there. Also because of it's popularity the off piste gets tracked out within nanoseconds of a decent snowfall.

A day at Laax will cost you 67CHF plus your 5CHF deposit for the chip card, admittedly this is only 3CHF more expensive than Lenzerheide which sounds ok until you take into account that in Flims to park your car for a day will cost you between 16 and 20CHF depending on how early you get up there and how long you stay for Apres in the evening. I've been charged 16CHF arriving at 9am and leaving after one drink at about 4:30. Add to that the cost of lunch in the restaurants at the resort and your costs for a days skiing are very quickly north of 100CHF.

Lenzerheide is much more spread out. But with 8 access points to the mountain I've never spent more than 10 minutes waiting to get on the lift and maybe 5 minutes at the second lift up the mountain. There are sometimes longish ques at the Lavoz and Statzerhorn lifts but these move very fast. The downside is that these two pistes in particular are very busy, but nowhere near as busy as the piste at Nagens in Laax. There are places in Lenzerheide where you can get fresh powder days or even weeks after a snowfall and if you get fed up of one side of the valley there is always the other side! Admittedly the Rothorn side is not great for snowboarding on piste, but the freeriding can be phenomenal.

Cost for a day in Lenzerheide. 64CHF for a ticket, they will let you load keycards from other resorts though. Cost for parking 5CHF for the whole day irrelevant of how long you stay. Self service restaurants provide half price meals to anyone with an SBB halb-tax or GA. Definitely a reasonable amount cheaper than Laax.

What are you missing out on. Less crowds in Lenzerheide, the snow park is smaller, Less time waiting to get on the mountain. The resort is more spread out so you get to actually ski/board between places and easily find more quiet pistes.

The down sides, Lenzerheide has a lot of narrow connecting pistes. Maybe a bit of an issue for beginners and they do tend to get a bit busy with unsure people stopping before the narrow steeper bits. If you can ski parallel turns or snowboard with any degree of proficiency this should not be a problem. The Rothorn side has quite a lot of off camber so it's a bit of a pfaff for snowboarders but on the plus side it's got some wicked freeriding.

For me it's horses for courses. I avoid Laax like the plague. I detest the place. Lenzerheide it somewhere I keep going back to on a particular weather forecast. If I know that there is a certain amount of snow with certain conditions given by the Avalanche bulletin I am up there like a hot snot.

Granted, a lot of my issues with Laax are due to crowds at the weekends or on sunny days after a snowfall, but any time I've been there I just couldn't help feeling that there are better places to be with a lot less people. For me crowds and waiting in line are two of the things that I hate the most about ski resorts. Engelberg and Laax seem to suffer particularly bad from this in my experience. I have local friends who love Laax, but they go up at a particular time and then ski to a timetable to stay one step ahead of the crowds and end up having a great day. Skiing to a time table is not for me though.

Davos is a great resort also, but for the reason that you can always go to one of the resorts within the resort that are less crowded. On a busy day Parsenn is to be avoided but when it is quiet it can be a lot of fun.
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Re: Lenzerheide

The rule for Flims/Laax is be in the queue for the Gondolas before the buses from Chur arrive - if you do that you're ahead of the crowds and can enjoy the pistes.

It is ridiculously expensive though!!

I'd take Arosa over the lot of them though - Hornli is great!
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Re: Lenzerheide

I'd agree about Arosa. Very nice and normally uncrowded. Never stood more than a couple of minutes at a lift almost anywhere. Quite a long drive up the valley though.

I've been meaning to check out the small resort of St. Peters (Hochwang) on the way up there for a while too but never gotten around to it.

Tschiertschen is a resort not to be discounted when everywhere else is going to be mobbed. It never gets too crowded as it's a small bit hidden and somewhat overshadowed by Lenzerheide and Arosa. Not the biggest of resorts but still fun.
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Re: Lenzerheide

St Peter Molinis - Fachael(sp) - has a chairlift and then a selection of drag lifts (boarder hell) - but the pistes are immaculately groomed and queues almost non-existent.

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Re: Lenzerheide

True, I talk about Arosa with high esteem as well. Ok, Flims is agreeably extremly overpriced but the free ride area there is great. Crowds is the usual problem on the weekends and holidays almost everywhere. If you are particularly picky when it comes to it and want to enjoy solitaire skiing, then I would suggest taking a day off e.g. on Friday. Not much queues at the resorts but you are technically on your own if something happens.
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Re: Lenzerheide

Finally made it to Lenzerheide yesterday, and can only endorse what Eire and others say about price and crowds. We had a twofer ticket from Coop, so two days passes only cost 75 francs (including 5 francs chip fee).

The main draw I think is how large, spread out and varied it is, and we only skied a tiny part of it. No crowds whatsoever on the Rothorn side despite beautiful sunny weather, though we set out a bit later in the morning. We were told the slopes would fill up during the afternoon as skiers came over from the west side, where apparently it doesn't stay sunny as long. They did, but still not what you could call crowded.

If you're on a budget, the half-off of food with a Halbtax or GA at self-service restaurants is very nice too. All in all, thumbs up--I really wish I were there today as well.
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