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need advice for 4D3N itinerery

my parents will be coming to Europe for holiday and switzerland will be our last destination and will spend 3N/4D and i badly need an advice on what to do. Specially for day 3

what i have in mind are :
Day 1 : arrive at Zurich at 14:30 (fix), travel to Lauterbrunnen
Day 2 : One day Excursion to Jungfraujoch (overnight : Lauterbrunnen)
Day 3 : Excursion to Schlitthorn - Piz Gloria ?? (overnight : Lauterbrunnen)
or leave in the morning to geneva (overnight :Geneva)

Day 4 : fly back home from Geneva at 15:00

Ps. my parents are quite old so they can't walk for a long time and this will be the first time they see snow.
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Re: need advice for 4D3N itinerery

Are your parents used to heights? If not i'd skip either the Jungfrau or the Schilthorn. It can be pretty exhausting to be up there. Personally I prefer the Schilthorn. It's cheaper and the view is better. They often have interesting offers too.
By coming back from there you could have a look at the Trümmelbach Falls.
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Re: need advice for 4D3N itinerery

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Ps. my parents are quite old AND they can't walk for a long time and this will be the first time they see snow.
Fixed that. (my 89 year old, golf playing aunt would not have been happy with your original wording)

I think your route looks good. Using the train, they won't have to do much walking at all for getting to Jungfrau and back down. And, so long as it is a clear day, it is a superb place for them to take photos of each other, with a cbackdrop of three peaks to choose from.

Not sure about the suggestion of the waterfall - are't there a big pile of potentially slippery steps to get to that?
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Re: need advice for 4D3N itinerery

Check the weather forecast ... neither the Jungfraujoch nor the Schilthorn is worth much if in the clouds.

Also lots of warm clothing at higher elevations.
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Re: need advice for 4D3N itinerery

Are you travelling by train or car ? We love the trains because they are less stressful than driving in poor weather conditions, and you can get up and walk around....and there is a restaurant car and toilets...

We just did the following trip:

Day 1: Zurich - Bern - Interlaken - Lauterbrunnen - Murren
We stayed at Murren overnight
Day 2: Schilthorn - lunch at the revolving restaurant (extremely expensive!)
Murren again overnight
Day 3: Murren - Lauterbrunnen - Interlaken - boat to Brienz - Train Brienz back to Zurich via Luzern.

If you wanted to add another day, I'd make a 50/50 decision between doing Jungfraujoch or Schilthorn, depending on the weather (personally I would not do both).

And the other 'extra day' option would be to stay overnight in Bern or Luzern.

If they have never seen snow, then I would suggest that you skip Geneva, and take the extra day to relax and enjoy the alp scenery, and spend more time in the snow. Also, Gimmelwald is highly recommended as a beautiful swiss mountain experience, and also Grindelwald, which I hear is more tourist-orientated.

I suspect that around Jungfraujoch it is much easier to access the snow. The schilthorn was like this for most of the time we were there....


Definitely check the web-cam before you go, and ask the locals what the weather forecast may be...although it changes rapidly...


We travel with grandparents and with small children, and have a "4th day, pyjama day" approach - after three days of pushing the tourist thing, everyone appreciates a day to just lounge around...

My mum is not a 'walker' but we did about 4km every day that she was over, and she was just happy to be able to do it! The main thing is to leave enough time to do everything with plenty of coffee breaks, and being open to changes because of the weather (we got caught in that really bad storm, on top of the Hasliberg, and got hailed on...but we survived)...
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I also had the weather question....

And therefore I search on many forums and all.
Apparently, in Lauterbrunnen area(or maybe even interlaken area), there is a "webcam" channel which shows the webcam at jungfrau.

So people have said that
1. Look at that channel
2. As for the conditions up there at Wengen tourist office.

With my experience with high altitude places, weather usually starts going bad around evening.
So if you can catch the earliest train(good morning train) to Jungfrau, your chance of getting clear weather increases.
Since you are back by june, you can do the Schlitthorn same day, and also do some gondola rides in the region on same day.

If you are coming in september, the Bernese oberland regional pass 1+1 free for 230 CHF is a great buy. Free travel in most of area, with 50% discount from Klein sch to jungfrau.
This basically means a 56 CHF/pp ticket, instead of the 112 from Kliene Scheddig.

This pass will also make your excursions to "First" "Schy. platte" free, and the Schlitthorn will be 50% discount.

you can avail three free days, and 4 50% days on the pass.

However, if you are doing it in august, there is no 1+1 free offer, but if you are going to travel exclusively by train and boat and public transport, this regional pass makes a lot of sense.

Or take the 110CHF swiss half price card(valid all over switzerland)

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Re: need advice for 4D3N itinerery

we will travelling in mid Sept. so i don't think it is possible to check the weather from now. and we would like to avoid sudden change in planning
and we are travelling by train.
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Re: need advice for 4D3N itinerery

If you have a Migros 'Cumulus' Card - they offer a discount on the Schilthorn...
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Re: need advice for 4D3N itinerery

Agree with everything posted re the risk of the weather etc.

Depending on budget, I'd try to spring for something better than Lauterbrunnen....the valley is amazing but the town is a little bland I find and never sees the sun.

I wouldn't bother with both Schilthorn and Jungfrau - i'd do one or the other. If it was up to me, I'd suggest basing yourself in Interlaken (I don't especially like the place personally, but has more to do than the places you mention and is easy to walk around for older people and has varied restaurants etc) and do the mountains one day (stay flexible and decide when you open your curtains) - if the weather is great, jump on a train to Lauterbrunnen, funicular up to Mürren for a nice mountain breakfast, cable car up to Schilthorn for lunch....top day I think. If the weather isn't good at the top but they want to see mountains, train to Grindelwald, and up to Kleine Scheidegg at the foot of the Eiger....they won't see as much, but its not 5 hours on a train to see cloud and the history of the climbing etc is maybe interesting (get them to read "White Spider" before they come and the place really comes to life).

Day two - I always think that Ballenburg outdoor museum is worth a trip for some historic Swissness....it can be a bit of a walk as things are spread out, but depending on their fitness and whether they like old stuff, might be worth it. I never had anybody disappointed there
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Re: need advice for 4D3N itinerery

what do you think of this package ? :

Jungfrau Centenary Package 840 chf 4D/3N

✓ Hotel accommodation with breakfast in the Jungfrau Region 3 nights
✓ Transfer: 2nd-class return travel from Swiss airports / border railway stations
✓ Multi-day pass for all excursion destinations on the Jungfrau Railways network
✓ Rail trip to the Jungfraujoch – Top of Europe, Europe’s highest-altitude railway station
✓ Voucher for a welcome drink at all excursion destinations
✓ Postcard from the Jungfraujoch – Top of Europe incl. postage
✓ Jungfraujoch – Top of Europe certificate
✓ 50 % reduction on all other Swiss rail & cableways

is this package cheaper or better without package?
we are 4 people, and 2 of us got half fare card + migro cumulus card
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what do you think of this package ? :

Jungfrau Centenary Package 840 chf 4D/3N
I think its heavily based on Jungfrau which is a long way and a risk, and you don't know where you'll be staying.....
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