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My son is coming to stay and wants to go up a mountain......

.....he is bringing his new girlfriend who he wants to impress. She has not been to Switzerland before so he thought it a good idea to go in a cablecar to a nice restaurant way up in the sky.
What's the best place to go to? Bearing in mind I have to take my 2 dogs (cost not an issue but crowding into a cablecar with skiers might be).
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Old 30.01.2012, 19:46
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Re: My son is coming to stay and wants to go up a mountain......

Pilatus? Cable car and/or train all the way (not sure this time of year what options you have). Decent restaurant at the top.

Or train to Lucern, ferry across the lake and then cable car/train up Rigi.
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Old 30.01.2012, 19:47
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Re: My son is coming to stay and wants to go up a mountain......

Your two dogs would probably be refused transportation. Can't you leave them in a kennel for a day? Don't go up if the weather is bad, you won't see anything!

I would recommend this restaurant, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piz_Gloria on this mountain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schilthorn

http://fahrplan.sbb.ch/bin/bhftafel....07.1327945478& cable car times from from Stechelberg

http://map.search.ch/stechelberg/sch...baeude,service park your car here

http://en.swisswebcams.ch/webcam/101...ald%29_Weather webcam, around minus 15 deg C this week!

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Old 30.01.2012, 19:55
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Re: My son is coming to stay and wants to go up a mountain......

You should not subject your dogs to the presence of skiers!
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Old 30.01.2012, 19:57
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Re: My son is coming to stay and wants to go up a mountain......

I know dogs are able to go up the Pilatus. I don't know though if it depends on the amount visitors though. and there's no skiers
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Re: My son is coming to stay and wants to go up a mountain......

To any mountain that has a gondola and a restaurant at the top really. A couple of my favourites are Engleberg - take a nice 1 hr walk up the valley floor to the godola that goes up the bluff on the left - fantastic views from the deck of the restaurant at the top. Or, to Wengen, then up on the gondola to the next level - again, a lovely patio with the restaurant. ( you can get there from grundewald as well, I think.
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I know dogs are able to go up the Pilatus. I don't know though if it depends on the amount visitors though. and there's no skiers
If dogs were not alowed up, how would the avalanche rescue dogs get to the top of the mountain every day?
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Re: My son is coming to stay and wants to go up a mountain......

Dogs have a bewilligung especially rescue ones...its CH
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Re: My son is coming to stay and wants to go up a mountain......

Pilatus was shut the other weekend ... we went up titlis instead

http://www.titlis.ch/?lang=en

Good day the snow storm even cleared for a few mins
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To any mountain that has a gondola and a restaurant at the top really. A couple of my favourites are Engleberg - take a nice 1 hr walk up the valley floor to the godola that goes up the bluff on the left - fantastic views from the deck of the restaurant at the top. Or, to Wengen, then up on the gondola to the next level - again, a lovely patio with the restaurant. ( you can get there from grundewald as well, I think.

Is there much winter walking at Engleberg? I'm not a skier, but I'd love to get out of the dreary valley greyness I see every day...
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Re: My son is coming to stay and wants to go up a mountain......

Bring them to our farm on Flumserberg...... your dogs can play with ours, no restaurant but I do a mean cheese board and have a well stocked bar
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Is there much winter walking at Engleberg? I'm not a skier, but I'd love to get out of the dreary valley greyness I see every day...
Yes. there is plenty of walking. Yesterday, the valley was also shrouded in cloud, but at least it's still very pretty with the snow. And there was no wind. Frequently, when I go there, the train pops out of the tunnel and we are above the clouds, in glorious sunshine.

It's also a super place for beginners to learn to x cdountry ski :-)
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Re: My son is coming to stay and wants to go up a mountain......

The schilthorn has a rotating restaurant at the top where James Bond was shot!
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If cost is not an issue Jungfrau!!!
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Is there much winter walking at Engleberg?
Yes. Brunni side is particularly good, but also at Gerschnialp (alluded to in an earlier post) and Truebsee, both the latter accessed from the Titlis Talstation.

Snowshoes make the Gerschnialp area even more accessible, with lots of paths through the woods and across to Untertruebsee, or down to the village. And not a lot of interaction in these areas with the skiers, although you're close to them, but separated.
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The schilthorn has a rotating restaurant at the top where James Bond was shot!
No he lived through the film making!
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Re: My son is coming to stay and wants to go up a mountain......

i would suggest Andermatt, you can take a small train to the top of a sledging run and walk down ( 90 mins, easy walk and lovely views). there is a ski barto stop along the way and several nice restaurents in the village below. only go if the weathet is good though as the views are what make it so nice.
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Re: My son is coming to stay and wants to go up a mountain......

Go to Weggis on a clear day. Take the lift up which will take dogs up to Rigi Kulm. Fantastic views over the alps, probably my favourite. Go for a walk to the left of the station, visit the small church in the rock, then go and look out over Luzern. Splendid. There is even a hut underneath that can be rented out in the night which has no electricity and you can have fondue and kirsch and look at the lights below... great experience. Return to Rigi Kulm and then take the next train over to Rigi Kaltbad (hope I have it the right way round...). You will then go up higher and have some more spectacular views, the dogs will love it. What impresses me is that you see the alps on one side in all their glory and the other is just the flat (as well as lake Zug etc) that spreads where the alps stop, basically where you are standing. Winner every time and photo opps galore. Marvellous stuff. Enjoy if you do go!
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Go to Weggis on a clear day. Take the lift up which will take dogs up to Rigi Kulm. Fantastic views over the alps, probably my favourite. Go for a walk to the left of the station, visit the small church in the rock, then go and look out over Luzern. Splendid. There is even a hut underneath that can be rented out in the night which has no electricity and you can have fondue and kirsch and look at the lights below... great experience. Return to Rigi Kulm and then take the next train over to Rigi Kaltbad (hope I have it the right way round...). You will then go up higher and have some more spectacular views, the dogs will love it. What impresses me is that you see the alps on one side in all their glory and the other is just the flat (as well as lake Zug etc) that spreads where the alps stop, basically where you are standing. Winner every time and photo opps galore. Marvellous stuff. Enjoy if you do go!

Excellent advice! Also my favourite place (we spend each summer at Rigi Kaltbad). Just a clarification.

The cable car from Weggis only goes as far as Kaltbad. Here you have to get off and transfer to train. If you take the cable car at 20 mins past the hour, it connects with the train going on up to Kulm. The cable cars run at 20 past and 50 past.

An excellent (and very Swiss) place for something to eat is Hotel Edelweiss at Staffelhohe. The food is locally sourced (ie Mount Rigi and surrounding lower level villages) where possible and the young couple who run it are charming.

There are a lot of sledge runs and you can rent sledges from Kulm or Kaltbad so only need to make up your mind about sledging when you get there. Otherwise there are a lot of prepared winter walking routes .. all very accessible without special snow shoes. You will get a leaflet when you buy your cable car tickets, it shows all the trails.

And why not get to Weggis by boat from Luzern? 40 mins. Check the timetables as the winter season is not very generous.

And even better .. go when Weggis is shrouded in low cloud and experience the amazing moment in the cable car when it breaks through the cloud cover and out into brilliant sunshine. Look at the webcams and weather forecasts on www.rigi.ch and it is quite easy to work out days like this.
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