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Old 21.02.2012, 19:45
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Reminds of my own silly me. Thinking about a day road trip from NYC to the Niagara Falls and back. It's actually shorter and faster to drive from Zurich to the Mediterranean Sea.
Not by much, 150 miles to Albany, another 150 to the Fals = 500km.

Zurich-Genova, about 450km.

Now, as far as a road trip of Italy, going by motorcycle is the ONLY way!

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Thanks all for some useful postings. It appears that many of you are recommending some places to be dropped - particularly Naples and I get it - however, there are some innocent big eyes looking up hopefully - tough to disappoint!
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Ambitious trip, but in Florence, I'd have to insist you also visit the Ponte Vecchio, and probably Basilica Santa Croce and if possible the mercato san lorenzo for a bit of lampredotto.
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Old 21.02.2012, 20:30
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Re: Road trip of Italy

We only did northern part of Italy Milan-Venice-Genoa while spending one full day in each location. You should be beware of drivers on the other side of Gottard tunnel though as their understanding of traffic rules is somewhat different to those repected on CH side (you will be pushed hard to keep your lazy max 120-130km on fast lane).
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Thanks all for some useful postings. It appears that many of you are recommending some places to be dropped - particularly Naples and I get it - however, there are some innocent big eyes looking up hopefully - tough to disappoint!
You're bringing your dogs?
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You're bringing your dogs?
no, frogs.
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Re: Road trip of Italy

I would plan Pisa for an hour or 2 and spend the time in Florence. It has so much to offer. An extra day or so there is so much more fun and things to explore.




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Thanks all for your great tips and some fun quotes.

Have pretty clear goals actually. So here's work in progress - have added some additional days. What am I missing or is something an overkill?

Day 0 - Start late afternoon and reach the hotel in Milan at night (4 hours drive)

Day 1 Milan (1 day - take the city tour)
  • Duomo - (one of the largest in europe)
  • Last supper (Santa Maria delle Grazie)
  • Leave for Pisa - 3 hours
Day 2 Pisa (1 day)
  • Royal Palace (or Palazzo Reale where galelio showed the planets for the first time using the telescope he invented)
  • Leaning tower
  • Museo di storia naturale (one of the largest cetacean skeletons collection in Europe - if time permits)
  • 2 hours travel to Florance in the evening and spend the night there
Day 3: Florence
  • Piazza della Signoria and Palazzo Vecchio (see the Roman aquaduct)
  • Museo Galileo (Galileo's exhibits)
  • Duomo (one of the best in europe)
  • 3 hours trip to Rome at night

Day 4 -5 : Rome (2 days) travel on day 5
  • The Colosseum
  • Panthenon (we can probably skip this as we've seen the replica
  • Trevi Fountain (the original romantic spot)
  • Circus Maximus (where the gladiators ran races)
  • St Peters Basilica (the largest church in the world)
  • Sistine Chapel (vatican museums including Michael Angelo's famous fresco)
  • 2.5 hours drive to Naples:

Day 6 - 7: Naples
  • Pompei
  • Mount Vesuvius
  • 7.5 hours trip to Venice

Day 8 Venice (1 day):
  • The Doge's Palace (Most impressive building in Venice)
  • Basilica San Marco

Day 9 Back home
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Old 21.02.2012, 23:51
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Re: Road trip of Italy

Look, it all sucks, go by bike and enjoy the asphalt.

The rest you can enjoy on you-tube.

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Old 22.02.2012, 00:33
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I would plan Pisa for an hour or 2 and spend the time in Florence. It has so much to offer. An extra day or so there is so much more fun and things to explore.
At the most. Pisa is awful.

I'd also recommend you drop a bunch of other stuff. It's just so much in so little time. Of course, sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do.

So I'll support your madness. However, I insist you drop Pisa and don't skip the Pantheon. You really just need to pop in & out. It has such a wonderful old feeling to it which I imagine you won't get with the replica.
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Re: Road trip of Italy

I agree with the others that you're better off spending more time in fewer places. I'd concentrate on Rome, Florence, and Venice and would bypass Pisa and probably Milano also. I've never been to Naples, so can't comment. Also keep in mind that by the end of the trip you may not be in the mood to see yet another basilica (seen one, seen 'em all).


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Day 0 - Start late afternoon and reach the hotel in Milan at night (4 hours drive)

Day 1 Milan (1 day - take the city tour)
  • Duomo - (one of the largest in europe)
  • Last supper (Santa Maria delle Grazie)
  • Leave for Pisa - 3 hours
You need to book tickets for the Last Supper well in advance: http://www.vivaticket.it/evento.php?id_evento=852281

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Day 3: Florence
  • Piazza della Signoria and Palazzo Vecchio (see the Roman aquaduct)
  • Museo Galileo (Galileo's exhibits)
  • Duomo (one of the best in europe)
  • 3 hours trip to Rome at night
Don't forget the Uffizi galleries and Ponte Vecchio. And the Accademia (David).

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Day 4 -5 : Rome (2 days) travel on day 5
  • The Colosseum
  • Panthenon (we can probably skip this as we've seen the replica
  • Trevi Fountain (the original romantic spot)
  • Circus Maximus (where the gladiators ran races)
  • St Peters Basilica (the largest church in the world)
  • Sistine Chapel (vatican museums including Michael Angelo's famous fresco)
  • 2.5 hours drive to Naples:
The Vatican will take most of a day (a lot of standing in line). The Sistine Chapel is worth it, though. The Circus Maximus is skippable. I'd go to the Palatine Hill and the Forum instead if you're into ruins. The Pantheon will take 10 minutes. Consider also the Villa Borghese (book in advance).

Do bring a good camera. Many of the places you're going to visit are dark and don't allow flash.

Good luck!
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I agree with the others that you're better off spending more time in fewer places. I'd concentrate on Rome, Florence, and Venice and would bypass Pisa and probably Milano also. I've never been to Naples, so can't comment. Also keep in mind that by the end of the trip you may not be in the mood to see yet another basilica (seen one, seen 'em all).
Agree about the basilica - plan to do one - St Peters and do it well - period! Now thinking of doing Pisa and Milan on the same day and keep more time in Florence.

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You need to book tickets for the Last Supper well in advance: http://www.vivaticket.it/evento.php?id_evento=852281
Yes - I know this has to be planned in advance - thanks for the tip though

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Don't forget the Uffizi galleries and Ponte Vecchio. And the Accademia (David).

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The Vatican will take most of a day (a lot of standing in line). The Sistine Chapel is worth it, though. The Circus Maximus is skippable. I'd go to the Palatine Hill and the Forum instead if you're into ruins. The Pantheon will take 10 minutes. Consider also the Villa Borghese (book in advance).

Do bring a good camera. Many of the places you're going to visit are dark and don't allow flash.

Good luck!
Thanks for the tip about the camera - but will not be able to do much about it - without a flash!
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Re: Road trip of Italy

This is something that I was planning to do recently, until it had to be postponed due to all the snow.

However, one thing that I cannot stress enough is the security aspect whilst driving through Italy (and driving a convertible with a lack of boot space, something that I had overlooked). As there will be times when you are arriving in cities etc with all your luggage onboard, prior to checking into or having just left a hotel, it is essential that nothing at all is visible in your car when parking it anywhere. This is a sad fact and I have heard a few horror stories.
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Old 22.02.2012, 10:20
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Re: Road trip of Italy

Thinking more about it, i'd skip milan as well. It really doesn't have that much to see for a tourist, ie it's a big city and not very pretty.

The poster who mentioned standing in line is so right. For some things you'll spend ages in line. For the vatican i believe you can get tickets in advance but you will still stand in line while you are inside. It could take a very long time.
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However, one thing that I cannot stress enough is the security aspect whilst driving through Italy (and driving a convertible with a lack of boot space, something that I had overlooked). As there will be times when you are arriving in cities etc with all your luggage onboard, prior to checking into or having just left a hotel, it is essential that nothing at all is visible in your car when parking it anywhere. This is a sad fact and I have heard a few horror stories.

Absolutely true.
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For what you're wanting to do, it's a lot of driving and you could look at the pictures on Google images.
I only groaned you for this statement. It's one thing to look at a picture. But to experience it with all of your senses is another thing completely different.

...kinda like sex.

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Thanks all for some useful postings. It appears that many of you are recommending some places to be dropped - particularly Naples and I get it - however, there are some innocent big eyes looking up hopefully - tough to disappoint!
I say go for it. It's not that much furhter south from Rome. But there are some pornographic paintings on the walls of Pompeii that you may not want children to see.
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The Vatican will take most of a day (a lot of standing in line). The Sistine Chapel is worth it, though. The Circus Maximus is skippable. I'd go to the Palatine Hill and the Forum instead if you're into ruins. The Pantheon will take 10 minutes. Consider also the Villa Borghese (book in advance).

Do bring a good camera. Many of the places you're going to visit are dark and don't allow flash.

Good luck!
Look on the internet and book a "skip the queue ticket" they are not expensive and you walk in straight past everyone standing in the queue, once inside you are then able to go at your leisure as this tour is designed to get you in the front door without standing in the queue outside. You actually meet up across the road and then enter with a tour guide.
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Re: Road trip of Italy

I live in Naples (spouse in Lucerne), and you are traveling very far South and missing some of the best that Naples has to offer. Almalfi, Caserta Palace, the Islands, etc. And, all the locals will tell you that Herculaneum (Ercolano) is better preserved than Pompeii!

I would recommend you take Easy Jet from Basel or Geneva to Naples and spend more than 1.5 days here.

That said, if you can't change your plans, you will get a much better experience from your time in Pompeii if you hire a guide or use the guide headphones. It is a larger city than you would imagine, and it easy to get lost and miss the best houses.

Vesuvio can be seen from a distance, but you can drive up to the trails and hike around the crater. Not my favorite site, but it is famous! Remember, it is colder and breezy up there!

Also, save all your eating of pizza and seafood until you get to Naples. Mamma Mia! You will not be sorry! And, the prices are so much lower, you will be tempted to fill your pockets with pizza!

If you make it to Rome, and the driving hasn't left you in total shock, come on down to Naples. If your nerves are wrecked in Rome, don't travel any further south. Naples is the total opposite of Switzerland when it comes to obeying traffic laws.

Overall, it sounds like a fun, whirlwind trip through Italy! Put on your best Italian music CD and enjoy!
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Old 22.02.2012, 14:37
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Re: Road trip of Italy

Skip Venice and Milan do those as long weekends at another time, either fly or take the train.

I second the Naples comments, avoid the city and see Pompei + Vesuvius which you can drive 1/2 way up!

Don't forget the Amalfi, crazy coast road from Naples but one of the most beautful places I've ever been. You could also go to Capri by boat from Naples.

Pisa is a afternoon trip on the way to somewhere else.

I've driven in Rome and Naples, I prefer Naples at least you know everyone's going to drive like a lunatic. Consistancy in it's madness. Keep it below 160kmh on the autostrada and you should be okay. Although I was hitting 240+ between Rome and Naples it's a boring straight road.
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Re: Road trip of Italy

Skip Milan. We were in Como last year for a week and did a morning in Milan. We thought even that was not necessary. I agree with everyone - it's too much, if you want that kind of a vacation, book a tour on a bus. This way you won't have to worry about traffic and driving. At the most do Rome, Florence than Venice (3,3 and 2 days in each).
Good luck, you want to be able to experience Italy, not check off that you've been to these places (where maybe it's just me, but they all start to look alike after a while).
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