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Old 06.06.2014, 15:18
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I'm surprised NL allows this. Sad really.

Switzerland does not. Fines have been handed out in the 10,000F region plus hassle from the trademark holders.

Search the forum. There are a few threads about this.
Do you actually know of any concrete cases where this happened?

Or is it scaremongering by customs?
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Old 06.06.2014, 15:18
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Re: Customs and fake imitation goods

Well, no-one stopped me when I wore 6 pairs of fake Armani boxers through the green channel recently.
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Old 06.06.2014, 15:23
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What is the whole point in buying fake items? Save money but then you know the item is fake...For me personally the essence of having the item is lost if its to buy fake.You buy an original watch for you like it and pleasure to wear one...whats the point to buy a fake rolex when you know what you are wearing is fake...Baffles me...
For some people a watch is an implement that tells you what time it is.
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Old 06.06.2014, 15:24
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Well, no-one stopped me when I wore 6 pairs of fake Armani boxers through the green channel recently.
If they were on your head, they were probably too scared to stop you.
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Old 06.06.2014, 15:28
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First of all: The OP made a question that sounds silly to people who know and understand the Swiss culture well. Then people did not believe him about other EU countries having a different attitude... then he delivered the proof and I must say that makes it an absolutely valid question.


I was surprised as well that the Dutch would formalize what in other countries would fall under turn a blind eye to small fish.

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Happens in Switzerland too.

Being the honest soul I (sometimes) am, I walked through the red channel once in Zürich Airport because I was one bottle of alcohol over the limit. The customs officer said to have a nice day and a good one.
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Old 06.06.2014, 15:42
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Do you actually know of any concrete cases where this happened?

Or is it scaremongering by customs?
February 2011,
My fake Louis Vuitton contraband was seized at Geneva Airport's Customs

July 2008,
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/archive/Authorities_wage_war_on_citizen_pirates.html?cid=1 006702

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Old 06.06.2014, 15:47
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Re: Customs and fake imitation goods

When I came back from Turkey with 2 fake T-Shirts and a leather jacket, I declared them at Zurich. I showed customs I had cut out the T-Shirt labels, but they laughed and said I had to cut out the Tommy Hilfiger motif on the chest. Then they said as I was honest they would let me keep them. They charged me Fr 30 tax on the jacket.
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Old 06.06.2014, 15:53
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Do you actually know of any concrete cases where this happened?

Or is it scaremongering by customs?
There have been more than one episode on EF. FMF liked to one.

And making jewelry and melting silver i've seen a lot of fake China silver amoung my jewerly making colleagues. Fake silver in a batch of melted silver is a b!tch to deal with.
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Old 06.06.2014, 16:27
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I think this is not sad but pragmatic.
Indeed. Everyone knows that the Dutch love a good deal and will spend as little as possible to get what they want!
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Old 06.06.2014, 16:57
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There have been more than one episode on EF. FMF linked to one.

And making jewelry and melting silver i've seen a lot of fake China silver amoung my jewerly making colleagues. Fake silver in a batch of melted silver is a b!tch to deal with.
Opps. Sorry. It was Sbrinz that linked.
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Old 06.06.2014, 18:03
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Allowing this dilutes the market. I don't care about "cheap" crocodile t-shirts or movies so much but once you start importing fake expensive watches, jewelry, handbags, etc they will make their way back into the market place down the line. It's a mess.
Honestly:it's neither a mess nor a diluted market. I own both a fake rolex, some real luxury watches and a real LV bag. You really need to be a complete idiot to not see the difference between a cheap knock off and the real deal. The problem lies with really good fakes that can trick people. that's not what 99% of all fakes are about.
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Old 06.06.2014, 18:26
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What is the whole point in buying fake items? Save money but then you know the item is fake...For me personally the essence of having the item is lost if its to buy fake.You buy an original watch for you like it and pleasure to wear one...whats the point to buy a fake rolex when you know what you are wearing is fake...Baffles me...
To the OP, like everyone above has posted bringing fake items in Switzerland is not allowed. Advise you to read the notices in Airport when you are leaving for Turkey.
Thing is, in places like the bazaar in Istanbul it is virtually impossible to know.
The sellers are going to spin some kind of fable about the fact that e.g. Lacoste has part of their production in Turkey but they don't mention it on the label, so you're really-really! buying one of their finest, but you're nor paying those boutique ripoff prices, etc, blabla...

Now having said this (=> I do NOT condone buying counterfeit), if you reenter CH wearing 1 turkish polo and you have another one in your luggage you probably are going to get away with it. If you try to walk through with 10 kg of t-shirts nicely packaged, complete of (fake) tags, etc, you're in for a good drubbing.

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Old 06.06.2014, 18:51
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There are plenty of laws that are not enforced down to the last person. Highly unlikely that every tourist will be scrutinized. and anyway even if there is a limit of 3 are they going to check every tourist has only 3 items vs checking them for zero items?
Your attitude is very Un-Swiss (tm). Swiss and Germanic people value the concept of Rechtssicherheit - you want to know that you did not break a law... no matter if this law is enforced or not. If you know that three t-shirts are ok do you not need to worry even if the logo of your one holiday resort t shirt kind of looks like puma...
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Old 06.06.2014, 18:55
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Thing is, in places like the bazaar in Istanbul it is virtually impossible to know.
The sellers are going to spin some kind of fable about the fact that e.g. Lacoste has part of their production in Turkey but they don't mention it on the label, so you're really-really! buying one of their finest, but you're nor paying those boutique ripoff prices, etc, blabla...
Bull. Everyone in his right mind gets that they are selling copies. I even told them... guess what they answered: Yeah, but I got the good copies!
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Re: Customs and fake imitation goods

Have you noticed that some fakes are perfect copies? Isn't it a fact that the fakes in foreign markets are often made on the same production line as the originals?

When you buy a fake in Turkey you are screwing the brand owner of his big profit, but you are probably putting more money into the local economy than the brand owner, because you are paying more for the bag / shirt than he would pay the factory.

I don't see the point of buying branded goods, but I do see the value and the sense of buying the copies. Most times (Not always!) the copy is of better quality than competing local products.
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Re: Customs and fake imitation goods

Sometimes the local products have dissapeared completely. What there's left is expensive original branded products in fancy boutiques, that most cannot afford and cheap Made in China stuff And I don't understand why they need to print the well known brands' logos on that.
My packing up for CH will be a nightmare in this case
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Old 06.06.2014, 19:32
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Re: Customs and fake imitation goods

Agreed, on my last visit to Turkey it was difficult finding a nice non-branded handbag for my daughter, eventually I did find one for CHF 23,--
But for my son I had to settle for the Hilfiger T-Shirts, which he didn't like!
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Re: Customs and fake imitation goods

Hi,
Whenever I see women with LV bags I always hope that they are fakes and that someone has not been stupid enough to pay the absolutely absurd process that are charged for them. I am assuming that they cost significantly less than 100 CHF to make and probably less than CHF 50 and they are they are priced at over 1000 CHF. Absolute madness. Recently I saw fake Beats Audio headphones being sold for around 10-20 euros. If you buy headphones wouldn't the quality of the sound me more important than the brand name ?


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Re: Customs and fake imitation goods

LV and others are now so associated with bling you'd be a real tw*t to buy anything of the kind... Expect with 3D printing to see counterfeit objects to become ever more difficult to differentiate from the real thing. Never seen the attraction in all this myself... You're not being clever, just a tool if you want to bring this stuff into the country. All up to mentalities I suppose.
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Recently I saw fake Beats Audio headphones being sold for around 10-20 euros. If you buy headphones wouldn't the quality of the sound me more important than the brand name ?
People don't buy Beats headphones for the sound quality.
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