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Enohzee 17.05.2017 10:35

Driving - Switzerland to Tuscany
 
Hi all,


Sorry if this topic has been covered before.


I haven't driven into Italy from Switzerland before and I'm planning to drive down to Tuscany from Neuchatel in August to meet my family for a holiday!


Looks like it's around an 8 hour trip.


Does anyone have any useful advice? Places worth stopping, best route (mountain passes or tunnel?), whether there are tolls in Italy?


Any tips would be appreciated :)


Cheers

Spinal 17.05.2017 10:36

Re: Driving - Switzerland to Tuscany
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Enohzee (Post 2787337)
Hi all,


Sorry if this topic has been covered before.


I haven't driven into Italy from Switzerland before and I'm planning to drive down to Tuscany from Neuchatel in August to meet my family for a holiday!


Looks like it's around an 8 hour trip.


Does anyone have any useful advice? Places worth stopping, best route (mountain passes or tunnel?), whether there are tolls in Italy?


Any tips would be appreciated :)


Cheers

There are tolls in Italy. Many, many tolls. It's a pain in the rear.

Stop near Lecco, it's pretty :)

Avoid the gottard tunnel at rush hour, you can expect a 1-2hour queue...

martin959 17.05.2017 10:38

Re: Driving - Switzerland to Tuscany
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Enohzee (Post 2787337)
Looks like it's around an 8 hour trip.


Does anyone have any useful advice?



Dont sleep at the wheel... make stops every 2 hours :D

John_H 17.05.2017 10:50

Re: Driving - Switzerland to Tuscany
 
Use the route planner from Via Michelin .. It will show the toll locations and prices.

tulika 17.05.2017 11:03

Re: Driving - Switzerland to Tuscany
 
Why not try the train? For a single person (assuming you are driving alone), the train should cost less, and sounds more convenient than 8hr road trip.

baboon 17.05.2017 11:20

Re: Driving - Switzerland to Tuscany
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spinal (Post 2787339)
Avoid the gottard tunnel at rush hour, you can expect a 1-2hour queue...

From Neuchatel you wouldn't go that way anyway...

Enohzee 17.05.2017 11:28

Re: Driving - Switzerland to Tuscany
 
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Originally Posted by tulika (Post 2787360)
Why not try the train? For a single person (assuming you are driving alone), the train should cost less, and sounds more convenient than 8hr road trip.

It's an option but I would need to rent a car when I arrive in that case, from Florence / Siena I imagine...

Enohzee 17.05.2017 11:32

Re: Driving - Switzerland to Tuscany
 
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Originally Posted by John_H (Post 2787349)
Use the route planner from Via Michelin .. It will show the toll locations and prices.

Thanks a lot John, I've never used the Michelin route planner before...what a gem!


Even given my predicted costs for my car model.

ch2013 17.05.2017 11:50

Re: Driving - Switzerland to Tuscany
 
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Originally Posted by baboon (Post 2787371)
From Neuchatel you wouldn't go that way anyway...

Quite, so it depends on where in Tuscanny.

We did it a few years back to Livorno and our route was:

Neuchatel
Lausanne
St Bernard Tunnel
Aosta
Ivrea
Allesandria
Genoa
Pisa
Livorno

It took about 8 hours with stops and the highway between Aosta and Genoa was a really nice drive.

Same route on the way back but go over the St Bernard Pass to visit the hospice and the kennels.

PaddyG 17.05.2017 12:05

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We always go via the St. Bernard, either through the tunnel, or over the top for the views and not pressed for time. After that, it's fairly straightforward from Aosta to Genoa, Pisa and beyond.
We're actually going to the Lucca region in August for a long weekend and currently weighing up driving vs flying Geneva to Pisa and hiring a car.

Pdalsantus 17.05.2017 18:08

Re: Driving - Switzerland to Tuscany
 
Hello,

I am frequently doing GVA -> Milan for work (4.5 hours) and you will need to add another 4 hours to get to Tuscany (depends on timing/traffic).

What about Easyjet to Pisa? I checked on their website and it costs ~180CHF (return + baggage). You can rent a very small car in Pisa and overall you will also save some money (Mont-Blanc, italian autoroutes are expensive, + time)..

Paolo

st2lemans 17.05.2017 18:19

Re: Driving - Switzerland to Tuscany
 
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Originally Posted by Pdalsantus (Post 2787565)
I am frequently doing GVA -> Milan for work (4.5 hours) and you will need to add another 4 hours to get to Tuscany (depends on timing/traffic).

From Milano it should only be 3 hours, as it is 4 from Lugano.

(to Firenze)

Tom

Enohzee 17.05.2017 18:33

Re: Driving - Switzerland to Tuscany
 
We're looking at staying in the north of Tuscany (between Florence & Lucca) so that the drive is a bit less (~7 hours). I also won't be alone so may have an overnight stop somewhere in Italy along the way...I'm planning to make the drive part of the holiday, rather than treat it as just travel.


Plus driving means I can bring back more wine & olive oil........ :D




Michelin guide estimated the cost of driving at around 300CHF - fuel and tolls. It noted total toll charge of 30CHF each way so not sure if that is a bit low..

Spinal 17.05.2017 18:37

Re: Driving - Switzerland to Tuscany
 
Just a thought, but the super save train ticket from Zurich to Milan is 20CHF...

I know you're not in Zurich, but there may be something similar.

Then, in Milan you can continue by train or rent a car (I found a small one, a panda, for just under 5CHF a day)...

ch2013 17.05.2017 18:58

Re: Driving - Switzerland to Tuscany
 
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Originally Posted by Spinal (Post 2787585)
Just a thought, but the super save train ticket from Zurich to Milan is 20CHF...

I know you're not in Zurich, but there may be something similar.

Then, in Milan you can continue by train or rent a car (I found a small one, a panda, for just under 5CHF a day)...

Yeah but not so easy to lug wine and olive oil back on the train...:msngrin:

papasmurf 17.05.2017 19:01

Re: Driving - Switzerland to Tuscany
 
Took me 9 hrs Baden To Florence..as there was a truck on fire in the Gotthard

on way back only 6.5 Went down the central motorway via Bologna which seems quicker then genoa..but depends where you want to go. This route seems to have more average speed cams then genoa

st2lemans 17.05.2017 19:21

Re: Driving - Switzerland to Tuscany
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Enohzee (Post 2787581)
driving means I can bring back more wine & olive oil........ :D

5 liters of each per person. ;)

Tom

ch2013 17.05.2017 19:49

Re: Driving - Switzerland to Tuscany
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 2787609)
5 liters of each per person. ;)

Tom

More if you pay the duty

Enohzee 22.05.2017 12:59

Re: Driving - Switzerland to Tuscany
 
So it looks like we're heading down to Lucca and the drive is only 6h30 so not too bad in the end.


When I use the michelin travel planner, I get much higher toll costs going to this location... it goes through Vaud / Valais instead of further East near Zermatt..


Does anybody have any tips on the best route, to lower the cost of tolls, but without making the trip too much longer?


Any info would be appreciated! Thanks!

Capo 22.05.2017 16:37

Re: Driving - Switzerland to Tuscany
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Enohzee (Post 2789476)
So it looks like we're heading down to Lucca and the drive is only 6h30 so not too bad in the end.


When I use the michelin travel planner, I get much higher toll costs going to this location... it goes through Vaud / Valais instead of further East near Zermatt..


Does anybody have any tips on the best route, to lower the cost of tolls, but without making the trip too much longer?


Any info would be appreciated! Thanks!

I don't think you can get a considerably lower cost of tolls without sacrificing considerably your total travel time.

You can try to set up your Michelin/GPS/Waze to "avoid tolls" and use local (provincial) roads, which are free.

Just enjoy, any road trip in Tuscany is wonderful.


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