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I am planning for a europe trip with my family for 3 to 4 days. Like Paris, veneice, some some other places which are in one line.
I am planning to take this with some tour organizers so that i will be tension free. Can some one suggest good tour planners from Zurich or baden. I can find many self planning tours in tripadvisor and similar websites. There are many planners from Paris london etc but not from Zurich or baden. Can any one suggest here
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Re: Europe trip

If you cannot find a travel agent in your town, your local large railway station can give you good advice, and make reservations.

https://www.google.ch/search?q=Reise...BOKA8QevsKSQDw
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Re: Europe trip

I'd do it myself as it's pretty easy.

If you are going by train,https://www.seat61.com/ is ecellent for connections, times and getting the best prices.

For only 3-4 days, I'd definitely use the train as it will take you straight from city centre to city centre without wasting time getting to airports and waiting in queues.

The best deals are those booked furthest in advance.

If you really want to do Paris and Venice then Paris to Milan is 7 hours (29 euros) and Milan-Venice is only two so add a couple of places in between and you'll really only be spending a couple or so hours on the train in one go.
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Re: Europe trip

Well you are not going to see much of Europe in three or four days, at best things will flash by far too quick to comprehend, why not consolidate on what you wish to see most and stick with that?
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Re: Europe trip

Hi all,
Planning on own with help of trains and hotels have become difficult due to my hectic work schedule hence i was looking for some travel agencies. I agree i cant see full europe in 4 to 5 days but would like to spilt with agencies.

Like Italy trip for 4 to 5 days, then after few months spain then after a break rome for 4 to 5 days some thing like that.

I dont find even a single travel agent either form zurich or basel or any near place who does such trips for places outside switzelrand. Am i missing something can some one guide me please.
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Hi all,
Planning on own with help of trains and hotels have become difficult due to my hectic work schedule hence i was looking for some travel agencies. I agree i cant see full europe in 4 to 5 days but would like to spilt with agencies.

Like Italy trip for 4 to 5 days, then after few months spain then after a break rome for 4 to 5 days some thing like that.

I dont find even a single travel agent either form zurich or basel or any near place who does such trips for places outside switzelrand. Am i missing something can some one guide me please.
I would guess there are no travel agents doing this type of work as there is no need, no business for them. It takes 15 minutes to book a cheap train and get a good deal on a hotel on your own, there's no margin for someone to do that commercially for you.
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Re: Europe trip

Have you considered an agent maybe based outside of Switzerland? I seem to recall from my time in the UK that there were a few who were happy to take over from the ground i.e. you sort out your flights / getting there and they take take care of your sightseeing and maybe even hotels.
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Re: Europe trip

Probably profits might be the reason and i agree with it. Yes booking train and hotel online or counter and trains are very good in swiss and europe. But other things like planing to cover maximum places in proper way with family, suitable restaurant, is difficult for some one like us because we are from other country and cant speak local language. Many time there will be some thing running at the back end of mind like reaching next place finding next stop over google maps, looking for opening and closing times of that particular place etc. all these makes us not to enjoy the trip fully. Hence atleast for places outside swiss i was trying to get some good travel agent where i just check in and only look at and enjoy the place but not worrid much about next local train/tram/bus etc. Atleast by 1% if some one has clue of some agency like this let me know please.
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Have you considered an agent maybe based outside of Switzerland? I seem to recall from my time in the UK that there were a few who were happy to take over from the ground i.e. you sort out your flights / getting there and they take take care of your sightseeing and maybe even hotels.
Yes i found few agencies outside Switzerland but they say i have to go to their start point and cant join in middle. their start points are in completely different country like London or some other very far places.
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Re: Europe trip

I told you in post #2 that large SBB railway stations have travel offices using rail transport.

You can buy tickets and reserve hotel rooms at Baden during shopping hours.

You can visit their travel office, or book online, https://www.sbb.ch/de/freizeit-ferie...en-europa.html

https://www.sbb.ch/de/bahnhof-services/bahnhoefe/bahnhof-baden/geschaefte.html

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Yes i found few agencies outside Switzerland but they say i have to go to their start point and cant join in middle. their start points are in completely different country like London or some other very far places.
I am not talking about tours that start in a different place, I am talking about companies who specialise in tailoring on the ground trips like these:

https://www.onthegotours.com/uk/Europe
https://www.travelbag.co.uk/

most typically focus on far flung places but there are a few who cover Europe but you got to look.

London is not that far and you will need to make up your mind on whether 1) you want everything planned for you on a reasonable budget which will require some flexibility / inconvenience or 2) you want everything laid on your plate without the need for flexibility / inconvenience in which case you will need to have a sizable budget. Here is an example of the second option

PS: London is not a country and similarly, please stop staying Swiss when you mean Switzerland.
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I told you in post #2 that large SBB railway stations have travel offices using rail transport.

You can buy tickets and reserve hotel rooms at Baden during shopping hours.

You can visit their travel office, or book online, https://www.sbb.ch/de/freizeit-ferie...en-europa.html

https://www.sbb.ch/de/bahnhof-servic...eschaefte.html
Hi i checked with them at their office directly and they said now they dont do any hotel reservations or any planning kind of thing as they used to do earlier. They will only book trains from point to point. If Sbb had some combi ticket like travel to the desired place with hotel room and destination place travel day pass that would have been more than enough for me to explore the places on my own as exploring in Europe itself is beautiful but i am unlucky they dont it any more. Even for europa park they gave me some hotel contact number who can give combi of room and park entry but they will book only train and bus combi ticket till the park
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I am not talking about tours that start in a different place, I am talking about companies who specialise in tailoring on the ground trips like these:

https://www.onthegotours.com/uk/Europe
https://www.travelbag.co.uk/

most typically focus on far flung places but there are a few who cover Europe but you got to look.

London is not that far and you will need to make up your mind on whether 1) you want everything planned for you on a reasonable budget which will require some flexibility / inconvenience or 2) you want everything laid on your plate without the need for flexibility / inconvenience in which case you will need to have a sizable budget. Here is an example of the second option

PS: London is not a country and similarly, please stop staying Swiss when you mean Switzerland.
hi Thanks for the links and instead of saying place i said by mistake country and i was not intending to hurt or communicate some thing wrong by using words Swiss or Switzerland. I thought its fine. Will use complete word going forward if its the correct way. My sincere apologies for the same
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... i was not intending to hurt or communicate some thing wrong by using words Swiss or Switzerland. I thought its fine. Will use complete word going forward if its the correct way.
Good. It's a lesson that quite a few people have to learn when they move here. It's seen as lazy/rude by many Swiss people.
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I told you in post #2 that large SBB railway stations have travel offices using rail transport.
In the past that would have been indeed the best option. Unfortunatly, SBB closed all its travel offices early 2016.
https://www.nzz.ch/wirtschaft/untern...eft-1.18545097

On the other hand Frantour/Railtour suisse https://www.railtour.ch which offers rail and hotel packages still exists. They even still have one actual Travel Agency. It is located at the Trainstation Rapperswil SG.

In Baden there is Knecht Reisen www.knecht-reisen.ch which may provide some of the services you are looking for. Btw. they also use the offer by Frantour/railtour.

Also Twerenbold, Kuoni, Hotelplan etc. maz help zou with organising zour trip. Just be aware the more service you need the more expensive it will get.

Be aware that organized all Europe round trips visitng cities in multiple countries in groups is just not a thing you normally do if you live in Europe. That is something for tourists from far away, where an Europe trip is a once in a lifetime experience. If you live here you pick a city, go and visit it a few days. It is not really rocket science to plan a single city trip. That is the reason why most just do it on their own. It is just natural and I am sure you will get the hang of it once you planed two or three trips.

Never the less organised travels to specific locations are offered. See for example http://rhzreisen.ch and https://www.voegele-reisen.ch/alle-r...dreisen/europa

If you need an other language than German zou most likelz have more loo bz booking through an UK travel provider.

If you wish to do a multi city rail trip on your own an Interrail ticket is the best option.
https://www.sbb.ch/en/freizeit-ferie...interrail.html
https://www.interrail.eu/en/plan-you...p-travel-times
But for this you should choose your cities strategically. Paris, Rome, Prague may not be the best combination. Paris, Amsterdam, Brussels, London on the other hand is better. Or Milan, Florence, Rome. Or Munich, Vienna, Prague, Berlin.
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In the past that would have been indeed the best option. Unfortunatly, SBB closed all its travel offices early 2016.
https://www.nzz.ch/wirtschaft/untern...eft-1.18545097

On the other hand Frantour/Railtour suisse https://www.railtour.ch which offers rail and hotel packages still exists. They even still have one actual Travel Agency. It is located at the Trainstation Rapperswil SG.

In Baden there is Knecht Reisen www.knecht-reisen.ch which may provide some of the services you are looking for. Btw. they also use the offer by Frantour/railtour.

Also Twerenbold, Kuoni, Hotelplan etc. maz help zou with organising zour trip. Just be aware the more service you need the more expensive it will get.

Be aware that organized all Europe round trips visitng cities in multiple countries in groups is just not a thing you normally do if you live in Europe. That is something for tourists from far away, where an Europe trip is a once in a lifetime experience. If you live here you pick a city, go and visit it a few days. It is not really rocket science to plan a single city trip. That is the reason why most just do it on their own. It is just natural and I am sure you will get the hang of it once you planed two or three trips.

Never the less organised travels to specific locations are offered. See for example http://rhzreisen.ch and https://www.voegele-reisen.ch/alle-r...dreisen/europa

If you need an other language than German zou most likelz have more loo bz booking through an UK travel provider.

If you wish to do a multi city rail trip on your own an Interrail ticket is the best option.
https://www.sbb.ch/en/freizeit-ferie...interrail.html
https://www.interrail.eu/en/plan-you...p-travel-times
But for this you should choose your cities strategically. Paris, Rome, Prague may not be the best combination. Paris, Amsterdam, Brussels, London on the other hand is better. Or Milan, Florence, Rome. Or Munich, Vienna, Prague, Berlin.
This is really awesome...i really appreciate for the time taken by you to write such details with links also. I surely missed few of these links inspite of me searching. Infinite thanks to you...thanks a lot. I agree if we are in Europe we need to plan city by city so that we can really enjoy the city/place fully. I did the same when I visited in switzerland one full day one place i used to do self plan and be there completely. some how i was not able to do outside Switzerland and links provided by you will help me a lot. If any more such links also please share with me anytime. Thanks a lot really
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