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week end in Zurich, finally!

After 7 years in CH, finally I am visiting Geneva's big rival, Zurich! What are the MUST sees in 24 hours. No car, public transport only. Convince me it's at least as great as Geneva!


Weather forecast looking good, so this should help.
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Re: week end in Zurich, finally!

I always suggest taking a ferry at Burkiplatz, there's a 1.5 hour round trip, it's a great way to see the city and mountains, especially on a sunny day.

Unfortunately I'm away for the weekend otherwise I would have invited you for a beer!
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Re: week end in Zurich, finally!

Boat is 5 CHF rip-off charge, though..

What you should do:

-Visit Uetliberg, walk to Adliswil and take the cable down (or vice versa). Great weather for that this weekend.
-Visit Dolder (take "Dolderbähnli" up the hill, then walk either from there to the zoo through the forest, or down towards the city - nice view, in my opinion
-Stroll around Bahnhofstrasse. Make the "foreigner vs. Swiss" playing game
-If you like, um, "high" towers: Drink at the Prime Tower
-Visit Langstrasse for "red light district" at night. Warning: Not as crazy as other cities, at least anymore
-Use the Polybahn to go up from Central to the ETH area. Walk through Niederdörfli (old city)
-Zürich has a really nice zoo, but that would be eating away too much time.
-If you're into currupt organisations, errr I mean football, the FIFA museum is a good idea. Extremely expensive though..
-Lots of other museums.. but the weather really is too good for them!
-Chinagarten (yes. It's what it says) is a nice place to chill a bit.

Would you like food ideas too? What kind of food are you into? Most "classic" is Zeughauskeller, which is both popular at locals as well as foreigners.
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Re: week end in Zurich, finally!

-A not so high tower but still nice would be the Jules Verne Bar at Urania. Or one floor up, have a look at the stars itself http://www.urania-sternwarte.ch/8/
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Re: week end in Zurich, finally!

Forget Langstrasse.

A walk down Renwegg off of Bahnhofstrasse will lead you to Lindenhof a lovely view point in the city center. Lots of nice cafes, shops, etc. and lots of Churches, one with the largest Clock face in Europe one with Chagall stained glass windows blah blah blah.

The Landesmuseum is interesting for Swiss history etc.

Niederdorf is the Old Town lots of boutiques shops and old tea shops, the really famous one escapes my mind but its lovely, and Niederdorf is the home to the not so impressive but actually quite nice Cabaret Voltaire (Dada) have a beer with.

Restaurants and Cafes everywhere. In this part of town I would recommend the Reihnfelder beer hall for an authentic Swissy Menu and clientel.

A walk along the lake, either side is nice.

In the evening go to Clouds on Hardbrücke for an expensive drink but the best views of Zürich from Zürich. If you are in that neck of the woods, Gerolds Garten is also open, last day is tomorrow, a bar, cafe, street market vibe.

Then if you like Gardens there are the Botanical, the Old Botanical gardens and the Succulent Sammlung.

There is also a very impressive Kunsthaus and quite a few other arty things. Ooops forgot to mention, the Flea Market at Burklipatz is also very nice on a Saturday morning.

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Re: week end in Zurich, finally!

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Re: week end in Zurich, finally!

Niederdorf, lake, Langstrasse (by day), Bahnhofstrasse. Gives you a good mix.

Kunsthaus (beware: toddlers )
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Re: week end in Zurich, finally!

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Bahnhofstrasse, Niederdorf, Münster, Bürkliplatz, Bellevue, parts of Seefeld, over to Landiwiese and up Uetliberg

For nice views also recommended: Prime Tower or Die Waid restaurant
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Re: week end in Zurich, finally!

Grumpy´s cheese shop? Well worth a visit!
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Re: week end in Zurich, finally!

Even better:



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Re: week end in Zurich, finally!

So, went and survived, did most of the old town, stayed at wacky hotel 25hours in West Zürich, did boat trip on Limmat River and lake, enjoyed a pint or two in a variety of places from Bohemian Les Halles and Schiffbau to old taverns in the old town, went up to the Dolder Grand Hotel for the views and the most expensive tea I've ever had, enjoyed a very atmospheric walk in misty morning (then lifting to glorious sunshine) round Zürich horn, almost ended in rave party in multi-storey car park when looking for a jazz café... all in all, lovely week-end in a very funky city with definitely more edge than Geneva...


However, for Patsycat and co in Geneva who would otherwise put me on the scaffold, here's an objective feedback: Zürich has more interesting buildings and architecture than Geneva and the lake shores are so much more accessible, I really enjoyed that. Anyone who tells me that Zürich is cleaner than Geneva must think again and visit around the train station when Oktoberfest is on...Vomitville all over! Beats Nottingham on a Friday night! Less visible traffic in ZH centre, but maybe that's because it was the week-end. More choice of independent shops, more interesting and variety of wacky fashion in ZH but in Geneva you would get a lovely feeling browsing round Carouge. Everyone speaks Swiss German, definitely a minus! Mist and fog in the morning...Jesus, it's London fog x3 in Zürich! Is it always like that? Forget morning cruises on the lake!


If you ask me or a visitor who went for the first time in Geneva catching it at its best on a sunny and warm October w/e, I'm sure you would find equal charm in both cities.
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So, went and survived, did most of the old town, stayed at wacky hotel 25hours in West Zürich, did boat trip on Limmat River and lake, enjoyed a pint or two in a variety of places from Bohemian Les Halles and Schiffbau to old taverns in the old town, went up to the Dolder Grand Hotel for the views and the most expensive tea I've ever had, enjoyed a very atmospheric walk in misty morning (then lifting to glorious sunshine) round Zürich horn, almost ended in rave party in multi-storey car park when looking for a jazz café... all in all, lovely week-end in a very funky city with definitely more edge than Geneva...


However, for Patsycat and co in Geneva who would otherwise put me on the scaffold, here's an objective feedback: Zürich has more interesting buildings and architecture than Geneva and the lake shores are so much more accessible, I really enjoyed that. Anyone who tells me that Zürich is cleaner than Geneva must think again and visit around the train station when Oktoberfest is on...Vomitville all over! Beats Nottingham on a Friday night! Less visible traffic in ZH centre, but maybe that's because it was the week-end. More choice of independent shops, more interesting and variety of wacky fashion in ZH but in Geneva you would get a lovely feeling browsing round Carouge. Everyone speaks Swiss German, definitely a minus! Mist and fog in the morning...Jesus, it's London fog x3 in Zürich! Is it always like that? Forget morning cruises on the lake!


If you ask me or a visitor who went for the first time in Geneva catching it at its best on a sunny and warm October w/e, I'm sure you would find equal charm in both cities.
I'm agree. Is ZH still cheaper?

I always thought ZH is fun while GE is more...summer break spirit. A whiff of Cote d'Azur.
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Re: week end in Zurich, finally!

Have thought a few times about how your weekend went today - great to receive this update! Unfortunately I didn't catch the time between your original post and trip start, but see that you've really caught much of the basic essence of this place. Although of course there are many others, with more time and local insight.

I guess the mist was on Sunday morning - this is typical for late Autumn in some years. Also on otherwise sunny winter days it's there, but higher. It can be frustrating if you want to get above it but not travel outside Zürich. This weekend was lovely weather though, and the slight low-level mist cleared up quite early.

Again, thanks for the update - reminds me that I need to get out and about more to other parts of the country again!
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Re: week end in Zurich, finally!

I forgot to add: when it comes to cycle lanes, Zürich beats Geneva (but not much competition from our end!).
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Re: week end in Zurich, finally!

And Chagall's stained glass windows at the Fraumünster in the late morning light were a very soothing, almost emotional experience.
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The mist was on both mornings. We had planned to go up the observatory for the views but gave up on that one.
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The mist was on both mornings. We had planned to go up the observatory for the views but gave up on that one.
You misst something: The Mare Nebula and a beautiful view on the alps. Uetliberg is 870 meters above sea level. The mist was only up to ~650 - 700 meters.
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You misst something: The Mare Nebula and a beautiful view on the alps. Uetliberg is 870 meters above sea level. The mist was only up to ~650 - 700 meters.


Next time, when we get cheap(er) accommodation on EF!!
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