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All by myself, sob, sob!

So, here's the situation: Mrs McTAVGE is going to see an old friend in the U.K., Junior 1 McTAVGE has no holiday and Junior 2 has too much work and is staying home, while I...would not mind spending 2-3 days away from home and enjoying some snow and skiing.


The request: as a single person, travelling by public transport and wanting to take my skis, ski shoes and sticks, what brilliant idea can someone come up with?


1- Place ideally a little off the beaten track as I cannot stand big crowds and don't want someone else's ski batons pocking me in the eye + more convenient if I suddenly get the urge to yodel!
Don't want to spend ages on the train so Cantons Bern, Valais/Wallis or anywhere within 3 hour train journey.


2- Not crummy, I like my comfort, but not dead posh either, my Financial Adviser (OH!) will be checking all my expenses!


3- Obviously accessible by public transport although I don't mind if I need to take a sleigh, snowmobile or funicular to finish the journey. View essential!


4- I'm not a monk on a vow of silence! So some conviviality essential. Of course I like good food and wine! I can manage a conversation in standard German very well, and of course I can sing in Swiss-German even if I don't speak a bloody word of it!


5- I've heard Swiss Railways offer a service where they take your skis and all equipment to your destination. Has anyone tried it? Tips?


6- I'm not difficult, really!
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Re: All by myself, sob, sob!

Car is out of the question? You don't have one?

Gare routier is probably easiest, the bus.. You can go direct to chamonix and all of other resorts in that area..
Or Saas Fee is do-able by train with one change at Visp i think.. Approx 3.5 hours.
Or for super easy bus up to the Jura above Gex .. Crozet etc etc..half hour.


** I never went skiing by public transport before..

Edit : Ooops Jura is likely useless for more than a day..
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Car is out of the question? You don't have one?

Gare routier is probably easiest, the bus.. You can go direct to chamonix and all of other resorts in that area..
Or Saas Fee is do-able by train with one change at Visp i think.. Approx 3.5 hours.
Or for super easy bus up to the Jura above Gex .. Crozet etc etc..half hour.


** I never went skiing by public transport before..

Edit : Ooops Jura is likely useless for more than a day..


I do have a car and it remains a possibility. I just love so much to take the train in CH (I know, I don't have to commute everyday!) and admire the mountains landscape. Also I don't like to drive in the snow up a mountain if I'm on my own.
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I do have a car and it remains a possibility. I just love so much to take the train in CH (I know, I don't have to commute everyday!) and admire the mountains landscape. Also I don't like to drive in the snow up a mountain if I'm on my own.
My favourite place to go alone is Leysin.. It's reachable by train in less than 2 hours.. Quaint old town with some nice places to eat and drink.
We stayed once in the alpine classic hotel, clean, cheap and cheerful, little quiet bar, very decent buffet dinner and few mins walk to the tele cabin.. Mid week on the slopes it just feels like you own the mountain. Oh and there are no drag lifts! The apes ski bar (hotel bel air) at the tele cabin has been revamped since last season and is really quite smart.

It's not Verbier.. But it's near and has a nice mix of pistes and it's generally quite quiet.
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My favourite place to go alone is Leysin.. It's reachable by train in less than 2 hours.. Quaint old town with some nice places to eat and drink.
We stayed once in the alpine classic hotel, clean, cheap and cheerful, little quiet bar, very decent buffet dinner and few mins walk to the tele cabin.. Mid week on the slopes it just feels like you own the mountain. Oh and there are no drag lifts! The apes ski bar (hotel bel air) at the tele cabin has been revamped since last season and is really quite smart.

It's not Verbier.. But it's near and has a nice mix of pistes and it's generally quite quiet.

I'll investigate further. Thanks!
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Re: All by myself, sob, sob!

I second Leysin, been a bunch of times. It is pretty spectacular. We scoot to St. Cergue for half days, since it is close and because we don't like carrying the gear more than a few metres (the biggest work out).
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My favourite place to go alone is Leysin.. It's reachable by train in less than 2 hours.. Quaint old town with some nice places to eat and drink.
We stayed once in the alpine classic hotel, clean, cheap and cheerful, little quiet bar, very decent buffet dinner and few mins walk to the tele cabin.. Mid week on the slopes it just feels like you own the mountain. Oh and there are no drag lifts! The apes ski bar (hotel bel air) at the tele cabin has been revamped since last season and is really quite smart.

It's not Verbier.. But it's near and has a nice mix of pistes and it's generally quite quiet.


Alpine Classic hotel is fully booked for the half term week. I'll check out other accommodations but if you have another one in mind...
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Re: All by myself, sob, sob!

The answer is abundantly clear:

https://www.englishforum.ch/complain...ey-tosh-3.html
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The apes ski bar
That sounds like fun! Everybody just monkeying around, enjoying a little après-ski.

What's your skiing level, Mr McTavge? Leysin doesn't offer the most challenging of terrain...
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Re: All by myself, sob, sob!

How about skiing the 4 Vallees from Thyon (Valais). You can stay there, at Les Collons or Les Masses. We often take the train from GVA, then the bus right outside Sion gare to ride up the mountain. There's a useful free skibus if staying just outside the resorts.

http://www.thyon.ch/
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Alpine Classic hotel is fully booked for the half term week. I'll check out other accommodations but if you have another one in mind...
There are quite a few the only other one I know of from friends staying there is the Hotel Central Residence, couple of friends enjoyed it there but it's maybe a good 500m walk (bus?)to the gondola. Leysin Lodge is right by the piste which returns down to the chairlift so ski in/out if the snow is ok, might just be apartments though.

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That sounds like fun! Everybody just monkeying around, enjoying a little après-ski.

What's your skiing level, Mr McTavge? Leysin doesn't offer the most challenging of terrain...
It's pretty nice though, great views from the top, nice runs through the trees, able to traverse between the pistes.. It's not the toughest skiing maybe but has it's fast and tricky parts.. None of it is really beginner except the little beginners area.
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Red slopes only when in a kilt!
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I second Leysin, been a bunch of times. It is pretty spectacular. We scoot to St. Cergue for half days, since it is close and because we don't like carrying the gear more than a few metres (the biggest work out).
We've been most weekends up in the Jura since the snow has been there! We should join up one weekend!
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Red slopes only when in a kilt!
You know I just said the yesterday.. Was skiing in a t-shirt and said i wished I had the kilt with me.. I'd have worn it!
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Re: All by myself, sob, sob!

We also rather like Leysin, although we're lousy skiers, so can't comment much on the slopes! We always stay at https://www.epicea.ch/, which is run by a British couple, so at least you'll have some company. And the B&B has cooking facilities, which is also nice because you can save a bit on your dinners :-) Ian is a mountain guide, so he can certainly point you in the right direction for your skiing!
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Re: All by myself, sob, sob!

This is a question of many answers...

Main decision point for me would be how much skiing you want to do and whether you are happy with a "small" resort (Leysin/Villars) or need a big skiing area (Verbier, Portes du Soleil, Zermatt, Saas-Fee, Crans-Montana, Aletsch arena etc). There are so many choices in Valais it's really up to you to chose. All accessible by train and (on cases) bus and can easily be reached by a single person carrying its own ski equipment.

Don't discount Chamonix either.

I traveled by train all the way to Austria last week carrying my own skis, boots and rucksack - no problem whatsoever. Don't see why you would want to ask SBB to carry it for you, it's only bound to slow you down
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We also rather like Leysin, although we're lousy skiers, so can't comment much on the slopes! We always stay at https://www.epicea.ch/, which is run by a British couple, so at least you'll have some company. And the B&B has cooking facilities, which is also nice because you can save a bit on your dinners :-) Ian is a mountain guide, so he can certainly point you in the right direction for your skiing!


It looks just right, but I've checked their availability and as usual with Half-Term, it's already fully booked. I've saved it up for another time, though. Cheers.
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This is a question of many answers...

Main decision point for me would be how much skiing you want to do and whether you are happy with a "small" resort (Leysin/Villars) or need a big skiing area (Verbier, Portes du Soleil, Zermatt, Saas-Fee, Crans-Montana, Aletsch arena etc). There are so many choices in Valais it's really up to you to chose. All accessible by train and (on cases) bus and can easily be reached by a single person carrying its own ski equipment.

Don't discount Chamonix either.

I traveled by train all the way to Austria last week carrying my own skis, boots and rucksack - no problem whatsoever. Don't see why you would want to ask SBB to carry it for you, it's only bound to slow you down

Do you have those special bags for skis I keep seeing at Geneva airport? I just wonder, even with just a rucksack, if I could hold skis, batons, ski shoes AND cup of tea!
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Do you have those special bags for skis I keep seeing at Geneva airport? I just wonder, even with just a rucksack, if I could hold skis, batons, ski shoes AND cup of tea!


Especially after reading "Train theft" thread!
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It looks just right, but I've checked their availability and as usual with Half-Term, it's already fully booked. I've saved it up for another time, though. Cheers.
That's us :-) Thanks for the plug Angus!

It's quite tough high season, especially for singles.

If you're flexible, I'd suggest stopping down in the valley, somewhere like Aigle or Villeneuve. Not a lot of apres, but there are a few places you can day trip on the train, Les Diablerets, Leysin, Villars, Champery, Verbier and so on.
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