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MFK test for car

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First of all I highly appreciate for valueable feedback always shared by group member.I had an old car in Bern and its mfk is valid till dec 2018. I also have TCS membership till end lf year as well. Now Im working in Basel whole week and returned on weekend to Bern. My car sometime showed brake repairing signal; I shoed at two different garage and they said there is no problem with brakes. It should also be ok with mft test.They said sometimes senser did not detect correctly brake oil therefore signal come is display. My question is
1: Should I ignore this factor as register for mfk inspection?

2: Currently Im working in Basel so is it possible to get mfk test termin from Basel? If so whats the normal process and whts important factor before going for inspection?

3: If they detect same problem does they give some altimatum for 2nd inspection?

4: I am also considering for relocation to Basel; so hos it could effect if I apply for changing canton then I assume I am supposed to apply fot nee number plate and then new mfk will also be compulsary??

5: with tcs membership there is some discounted offer or??

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1. If you do, they won't.

2. Your test location is usually based on your wohnort. What's important is that the car is clean and everything is in good working order, especially the safety systems such as the brakes.

3. Normally, if the brake pads and discs aren't worn out, the brakes provide enough retarding force, and there is no disbalance between the 4 corners, the brake light will only come on if there is a problem with the level sensor or the wiring, and any mechanic or inspector will know this. It's not a major fault, so if you get a reasonable inspector he'll just make you show up within the next 2 weeks to prove that the warning lamp/sensor has been fixed. But the brakes are the most important safety system on a car, so they may make you go for a full retest, or at least the part where they put the car on the brake dynamometer.

4. I don't think you need a fresh MFK when changing registration Kanton, they probably just send a new aufgebot when the MFK from your old Kanton expires.

5. I'm not sure, I don't think TCS gets you a discount on repairs.

How old is the car? I don't think I've ever seen a hydraulic fluid sensor fail on a modern car (Modern means anything newer than 1975 to me.), but it's quite common on old British cars where the sensor is a bit of cork actuating a switch. Do you by any chance live near a forest and park your car outside? It could be Mardershaden.
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4. I don't think you need a fresh MFK when changing registration Kanton,
This is correct. Done it twice since we've been Swiss resident. The first time both of our cars were called in for testing within a few months, but it had been five years or more for the first one, and three of four for the second, since they were last tested (or new) so it clearly wasn't automatic with the change of canton. This time it's been 8 months and neither of the two current cars have yet been asked for testing, both of them having last been done in the old canton within the last two or three years.
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they probably just send a new aufgebot when the MFK from your old Kanton expires
MFK does not expire.

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MFK does not expire.

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How else would you translate "Fällig" or "Abgelaufen"?
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Re: MFK test for car

I've never had it expire, even the time that they only called me in after 14 years!

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How else would you translate "Fällig" or "Abgelaufen"?
No longer valid. Revoked. Repealed.

The point is that there's no specific validity period or time at which it expires. If you've failed to get it tested when requested that's another thing altogether.
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I've never had it expire, even the time that they only called me in after 14 years!

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If you ignore them calling you in for a test, and you get stopped and the plod notices it, what do you think will happen?

(Especially if you ignore the letter from your insurance which is somehow triggered by you missing the MFK appointment. This happened to me once, while I was on vacation. Lots of post with dire threats of legal consequences.)
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The point is that there's no specific validity period or time at which it expires. If you've failed to get it tested when requested that's another thing altogether.
There most assuredly is... the problem is it's a quantum value... only known once the StVA determines it.

And that can indeed be a bit of a lottery.
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If you ignore them calling you in for a test, and you get stopped and the plod notices it, what do you think will happen?
I've never ignore a call in, but I have avoided them on many occasions:

a) take the vehicle off the road temporarily or permanently

b) request a new date

c) get it tested before the date

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Re: MFK test for car

2. The MFK invitation for us said that we can also do the test at a TCS center. Maybe look into that?
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How else would you translate "Fällig" or "Abgelaufen"?
Fällig == Due.
That is the right word. As long as it is not due and you did not skip the controll it is valid. Important, it is due when you get an invite from the MFK/SAN guys. There is a regular schedule which is 5-3-2-2-2... years after the last check. But it can be months, even years before you get an invite.

You can get a check on your own any time you wish. In any canton and also at TCS which has rebates for members https://www.tcs.ch/de/kurse-fahrzeug...uefung-mfk.php

If you know you might get an invite soon you can schedule a test such that it fits in your cars regular service schedule. It should pass with flying colors even when you do not tell your mechanic you will go to the MFK/SAN. After a service a car should be road worthy.

If you do it in an other canton you will have to send in the test report and gray card so that it gets a stamp and the test date is entered in the system.

If you something is found during the test there are the following options:
- Fix it asap, no reshow.
- Fix it asap, reshow.
- Fix it asap by a certified mechanic, get proof of work and reshow.
- Car can no longer be driven and must be towed from control place. Then get it fixed by a certified mechanic, get proof of work and reshow.

You can hand in gray card, plates any time. Before the test, after a failed test. That is the time when the MFK/SAN is no longer valid, revoked.
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Re: MFK test for car

2. You have to get it tested in the canton that it's registered. BS isn't going to stamp a BE registration.

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You can hand in gray card, plates any time. Before the test, after a failed test. That is the time when the MFK/SAN is no longer valid, revoked.
Actually, it is still valid.

I was called in for a bike, took it off the road for four years, re-registered it, was called in three months later to do the MFK.

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2. You have to get it tested in the canton that it's registered. BS isn't going to stamp a BE registration.

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BE is going to stamp and will accept the BS or TCS test report
But if you already got an invite from your canton you might have to pay a fee if you do the check in another canton.

http://www.pom.be.ch/pom/de/index/st...r_textbild_91f

It is the same in other cantons:
https://stva.zh.ch/internet/sicherhe...prfPeriod.html
http://www.polizei.bs.ch/verkehr/mot...rfuehrung.html

Fribourg even mentions that their test certificates are accepted Swiss wide:
http://www.ocn.ch/de/pub/dienstleist...e_pruefung.htm

See also ASA Guidline No. 17 https://asa.ch/it/biblioteca-online/direttive/
Reasures this. Any MFK test report must be accepted, but not any control place has to offer its service to any one.

Here a list of all approved 3rd party non-cantonal control places
https://asa.ch/dienstleistungen/asaq...etriebe-rl-17/
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Fällig == Due.
That is the right word. As long as it is not due and you did not skip the controll it is valid. Important, it is due when you get an invite from the MFK/SAN guys. There is a regular schedule which is 5-3-2-2-2... years after the last check. But it can be months, even years before you get an invite.

You can get a check on your own any time you wish. In any canton and also at TCS which has rebates for members https://www.tcs.ch/de/kurse-fahrzeug...uefung-mfk.php

If you know you might get an invite soon you can schedule a test such that it fits in your cars regular service schedule. It should pass with flying colors even when you do not tell your mechanic you will go to the MFK/SAN. After a service a car should be road worthy.

If you do it in an other canton you will have to send in the test report and gray card so that it gets a stamp and the test date is entered in the system.

If you something is found during the test there are the following options:
- Fix it asap, no reshow.
- Fix it asap, reshow.
- Fix it asap by a certified mechanic, get proof of work and reshow.
- Car can no longer be driven and must be towed from control place. Then get it fixed by a certified mechanic, get proof of work and reshow.

You can hand in gray card, plates any time. Before the test, after a failed test. That is the time when the MFK/SAN is no longer valid, revoked.
There is never a requirement to get it fixed by a certified mechanic, just return for a partial or full test.
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There is never a requirement to get it fixed by a certified mechanic, just return for a partial or full test.
Correct. Got it wrong it is.

- Get it fixed by a certified mechanic, send us the proof, no reshow.

Canton Thurgau and St.Gallen uses this method instead of mandatory reshows. I think you can still fix it yourself but than you have to do a reshow or find a mechanic willing to vouch for your work.

https://www.srf.ch/news/schweiz/kant...chpruefung-auf
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Can anyone please help with link for ad-hoc MFK Baselland, I am not able to locate the option in their website. Thanks in advance.
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Can anyone please help with link for ad-hoc MFK Baselland, I am not able to locate the option in their website. Thanks in advance.
E-Mail or Telephone (see Disposition Fahrzeugprüfungen)

Applies to BS as well as BL.
https://www.baselland.ch/politik-und...tation/kontakt

TCS Füllinsdorf no longer offers MFK checks.
https://www.tcs.ch/de/der-tcs/sektio...eugkontrollen/

But you are free (See directive 17 https://asa.ch/it/biblioteca-online/direttive/) to do the check at any oder StVA/SAN https://asa.ch/strassenverkehrsaemter/adressen/ or 3rd party provider https://asa.ch/wp-content/uploads/20...nsbetriebe.pdf :
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E-Mail or Telephone (see Disposition Fahrzeugprüfungen)

Applies to BS as well as BL.
https://www.baselland.ch/politik-und...tation/kontakt

TCS Füllinsdorf no longer offers MFK checks.
https://www.tcs.ch/de/der-tcs/sektio...eugkontrollen/

But you are free (See directive 17 https://asa.ch/it/biblioteca-online/direttive/) to do the check at any oder StVA/SAN https://asa.ch/strassenverkehrsaemter/adressen/ or 3rd party provider https://asa.ch/wp-content/uploads/20...nsbetriebe.pdf :
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