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Emmental or Schwyz?

July will be time for my yearly yodelling hike in the mountains and this year, due to difficult personal times, I will need to look after myself with a bit of self tlc to lick my wounds, all the while watching my finances.


I am hesitating between two areas I have not yet visited: Emmental and Schwyz. As usual, I will use public transport only, plan not too strenuous hikes (12-18km is my range) with a nice pint and meal at the end of it, decent and convivial accommodation, the idea being also to interact with people. A bit of a "wow" factor with the views (and quiet viewpoints for my Naturjodel!) and one or two picturesque towns / villages a bonus.


Tips, recommendations, fire off! Cheers.
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Re: Emmental or Schwyz?

Both are nice.

Schwyz, the place where the famous Swiss army knives are made, gives you Muotathal, Lake Lucern, Mount Rigi, the Mythen Mountains, Einsiedeln, many Military knickknacks such as the Morgarten Battle place, the Dufour Museum (amazing view), the Bloodhound Museum (but that is technically in canton Zug) and you can follow the steps of General Suworow. For culinary treats try Hafechabis there are regional varity using lamb, mutton and/or pork and visit the Felchling chocolade factory store.

Emmental, the place where the famous Swiss screw drivers are made, gives you many hills the largest which is the Napf, the Affoltern i. A. dairy, the hidden history of the Täufer, Lützelflüh were "Jeremias Gotthelf" was a pastor. For a amzing view go to the Lüderenalp where you can see Schrattenflueh and the Bernesse Alp. For a special culinary treat there is the Kemmeribodenbad and the Hexer von Escholzmatt (but that is technically in the Entlebuch)
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Re: Emmental or Schwyz?

Wow! And you're not working for either's Tourism Board?
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Re: Emmental or Schwyz?

Picking up on aSwissInTheUS' idea, the Napf region is lovely, and there are any number of good hikes there.

If you have the possibility of doing two days with an overnight stop, it's well worth spending the night at the Berghotel on top of the Napf. Simple accommodation and food as you would expect in such a place, but great views towards the Berner Oberland and Pilatus.

One option would be:
- Day 1: Romoos - Holzwegen - Ober Änzi - Napf (but you could also start in Wolhusen or Luthern Bad)
- Day 2: Napf - Lüshütte - Lüderenalp - Neumühle
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Re: Emmental or Schwyz?

Thank you so much both of you for the recommendations. It looks like Emmental might match better my "hiking without height fear" requirements, but I am still open to further ideas on either region. Whatever I choose, the other will be next year, so not all advice has been wasted.
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Thank you so much both of you for the recommendations. It looks like Emmental might match better my "hiking without height fear" requirements, but I am still open to further ideas on either region. Whatever I choose, the other will be next year, so not all advice has been wasted.
You know Creux du Van? The Napf has its small brothers, the Stächeleggflueh, Hängstflueh, and the Änziflueh. If you wish, for the kick and for yodeling, you can still go to the rim of those.
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Re: Emmental or Schwyz?

Emmental has the cooler dialect.
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Not sure it would make any difference to me, unfortunately!
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Re: Emmental or Schwyz?

Emmental wins hands down!! Ok I am biased, i admit it!!


Well, there are already a few very good tips AND reason from ASITUS, stephen_NE and amogles.


Here are a few of my ideas.


The yummy KAMBLY biscuits are made in TRUBSCHACHEN . You can rent an E-bike and then do a guided (by APP) round trip on it to discover where Kamply gets its ingredients for the yummy cookies. Then they have a direct outlet store, where you can taste their products to your hearts content and buy in bulk (cheaper than in the stores such as Coop). We always stock up there when on tour with the motorbike.


Contact information

Kambly Erlebnis
Mühlestrasse 8
3555 Trubschachen
Tel. +41 34 495 02 22
www.kambly.ch







Schaukäserei Emmental, want to know about the famous (sadly not trademarked) Emmental cheese and its origins.



Contact information

Emmentaler Schaukäserei AG
Schaukäsereistrasse 6
3416 Affoltern i. E.
Tel: +41 34 435 16 11
Fax: +41 34 435 01 51
info(at)emmentaler-schaukaeserei.ch
www.emmentaler-schaukaeserei.ch/en






Kemmeribodenbad is a MUST8 as already recommended) Especially their Meringues with whipped cream (Merängge mit Nidle) I dare you to order and eat a full portion it is also a Hotel and starting point of a few lovely hikes along the Emme or the surrounding hillsides
https://www.kemmeriboden.ch/





Also recommendable is the moosalp restaurant, again a lovely point to start or end a hike

http://www.moosalp.ch/cms3/




NOT in the EMMENTAL, but not very far by train, a day trip to BRIENZ and the BALLENBERG MUSEUM is also recommendable. It is an open air museum where a lot of original old Swiss houses are rebuilt and it is very informative about Switzerland in general and how the people lived over centuries. The exhibited farmhouses as well as the city dwellings are decorated with items from the respective eras they were built in.There are also lots of live performances of different trades, such as basket weavers, wool spinners, shake makers, coal makers etc etc

It is in particular a real eye opener to those who fall to the pre-judice of all Swiss have always been rich........


Back to the Emmental. Burgdorf is one of the gateways to the EMMENTAL and as a Zahringian City(like Bern and Friboourg) boasts of a lovely old city.The exhibition in the castle museum offers an exciting journey of discovery through history. The rich collection is a mirror of the economic and cultural history of Bern and the Emmental.


Contact information
Schloss Burgdorf
Tel: +41 34 423 02 14
Fax: +41 34 423 04 48



On the off chance.........Have you watched perhaps the old black and white Swiss films (after books by J.Gotthelf) Ueli der Knecht & Ueli der Pächter, Annebäbi Jowäger etc


The cute Würzbrunnen church,in Röthenbach im Emmental played a big role in some of those films,well worth a visit.Würzbrunnen church is first recorded in 1148, in a letter from Pope Eugene III. It is probably around 1`000 years old.
And when you are there there is also a lovely hike up the hill to CHUDERHÜSI (community of Bowil) and on top of it is the CHUTZENTURM, a wood built sightseeing tower about 423meters high and you have splendid views all over teh Emmetal towards the Alps and much more on a sunny day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuderh%C3%BCsi_Tower


(I was up there NEVER A_BLOODY_GAIN, I rather give birth to about 4 more children without pain meds !! )



Here's a link to an e-bike tour linking a few of my suggestions.


https://emmental.ch/en/eventmanager/page/chuderhuesi-tour-trubschachen/action/offerShow/Offer/
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Re: Emmental or Schwyz?

Oh and as for the naturjodel from top of a mount....ääähhhm hilltop.
The NAPF, HOHGANT and Lueg (close to Burgdorf) are three of the highest points in the area to check out for it.
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Re: Emmental or Schwyz?

Well, thank you for all this very useful information. No, I don't know any of these films you refer to. Heidi was probably the nearest thing to a Swiss film I watched before coming here and since then, the few Swiss films I have watched tended to be either documentaries (die Wiesenberger, brilliant!) or in French (Bienvenue en Suisse, Les faiseurs de suisses...)


I'll investigate further all the links you have shared, thanks again!
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Re: Emmental or Schwyz?

Ueli der Pächter (the sequel to Ueli der Knecht)


More about Albert Bitzius a.k.a Jeremias Gotthelf
https://www.gotthelf.ch/de

An other personality which acted in the Elemental is Mr. Pestalozzi:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann...ich_Pestalozzi

Fun fact, the small picturesque village of Trub (prominently shown in the Swiss film Die Herbstzeitlosen) has a population of only 1350, but over 50'000 citizens (Place of origin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Place_of_origin).
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BTW there is even a swiss film maker who has been making films since the late 60s in Swiss German ... and also writes books in Swiss German- well Bärntütsch, he is from Biel originally, but has been living in Umbria for a long time.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clemens_Klopfenstein
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BTW there is even a swiss film maker who has been making films since the late 60s in Swiss German ... and also writes books in Swiss German- well Bärntütsch, he is from Biel originally, but has been living in Umbria for a long time.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clemens_Klopfenstein
And did great films with Polo National
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Link, woud like to know more East Enders. Thanks.

Do you know Clemens? His Biel film team in Biel was called AKS (Aebersold, Klopfenstein, Schaad - all from Biel), in the 60s.

Edit- ah yes, Polo Hofer, the Bernese Rock singer- I remember now. Died last year of lung cancer - looked a bit like Ronnie Woods of the Stones.

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Do you know Clemens? His Biel film team in Biel was called AKS (Aebersold, Klopfenstein, Schaad - all from Biel), in the 60s.

Edit- ah yes, Polo Hofer, the Bernese Rock singer- I remember now. Died last year of lung cancer - looked a bit like Ronnie Woods of the Stones.
'Knew' his brother Hubert, he was a city councilloe in Biel. As for films with Polo , "Das Schweigen der Männer' ist imho the best of all of them.
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Re: Emmental or Schwyz?

... and staying on the film theme while coming back to the Emmental/Entlebuch, there is the 2011 film "Die Kinder vom Napf" (http://aliceschmid.ch/en/21/269/proj...ount-napf.html)

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Sattel to Einsiedeln, Einsiedeln to Pfäffikon is a nice two day walk....

If you want to extend longer there are many day hikes you can take with Einiedeln as base. Also Sihlsee is very nice for swimming and sunbathing in the summer.
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Re: Emmental or Schwyz?

I'm not able to comment on Emmental, but I've done some hiking in Schwyz and enjoyed it a lot. My favourite area would be Stoos. Ridge trail there offers some stunning views over Lake Lucerne. Rigi, Mythen mountains and Muotathal also offer some great hiking options.
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Be aware that if you visit Schwyz, you should exchange your Swiss francs for local currency, such as shiny trinkets, cowrie shells, ballpoint pens and similar.
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